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My favourite fleet is two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda

Excellent video bro, great work! Especially the "choose your behavior depend on range and proactive/reactive-ness". Never learned that from other videos. And man, still doing X4 videos in 9/2024? Keep on keeping on!!

Late to the party here, but is that X4's battle music? Maybe I should unmute the game lately. EDIT: The worst thing is the cut before the big boys explode. Unless those ARE the vanilla explosions?

Very nice idea and realisation! Thanks for this epic battle!

I know #79b isn't meant to be a hashtag, but it did help me find some additional epic invasion footage after watching Perun's invasion. Despite your claim that the loadout is suboptimal, it's very very pretty, and that counts for something!

pretty nice ship!

What ship do you use in this?

How about using the Bombard Command? I would thing that should guarantee use of the Asgard beam above all others...

Great video, thanks! 😃

So what happened to the terran fleets since they didn't get recalled when Earth was under attack?

9:25 Nice Kha'ak

Goodmorning Captain. The camera angle you are using (say at 6:59) vaguelyl reminds me of RTS games like homeworld, which camera is it and how do you get to it? Also can you issue commands while using this perspective and actually play the game like an RTS. Cheers

This video inspired me to setup small fleets to defend my station L miners. I'm setting up squads of one nemesis vanguard with, argon flak turrets and bolt repeaters for the main guns, set to intercept for the miner. The nemesii are followed by a pair of Theseus vanguard fighters, with one mass driver and two bolt repeaters each set to defend. Turns out mass drivers work great at the hands of the AI. My efficiency has gone up greatly as they take care of the Kha'ak before they can make my miners flee too far.

No idea if this will get through, tubey is bad at this, but it is easily you refuse to let this post go up too, under dev pressure. Talk about Wingmen. This is a basic start of fleets: a few AI ships to protect you or attack with you so as to split up the dogpile on you. It gives you wingmen commands to deal with too, so those are a factor to consider. It can be a pity that you can't make a genuine convoy, though, and there's no non-intrusive way to go at the speed of the slowest member, so you will inevitably spread apart unless you have the EXACT SAME ship (so no engineering either). That gets you to a problem early on, too: the AI is not good, lets just put it at that. They go silly places because the script run is not looking holistically, it requires a non-fixated real human mind to look at the picture. Real humans still get target fixated, though. However, it is what you may start with a "fleet" for: just as bullet sponges as you do 90% of the actual work. Like Star Wars (original) X wing game. When it comes to fleet construction and balance, the problem is that the "right balance" depends on the task AND the fleet you have. Unless you Zerg Rush, because going 100 to 1 against the enemy will always win and win quickly enough that you probably won't lose anything. But it is hardly balance. A fleet based around an Asgard is differently balanced to a fleet based around a Phoenix or Zeus, and different again when based around a Raptor. If your M class military is based on Peregrines or Jians, what "works well" changes. And the AI doing a dumb thing will cause you many headaches, leading to many eschewing fleets until they can zerg rush at least 2 or 3 to 1, because the AI doing a silly means less when you are winning via overwhelming power. And all this changes based on bugfixes. I believe almost all, if not all, of the "turrets are more accurate" is purely the Xenon fire rate is higher, meaning more hits on target. Doesn't help non-Xenons, though. But if actual changes, such as "Bombard" or standing off to launch torpedoes at capital ships, happens, then what is "balanced" changes again, and what used to be your favourite fleet will stop working or work differently. There's a problem with balance here, too. It doesn't matter if it is close, because not being close means there is a best in class that is not the same race ship as a different ship best in class, which the player can take advantage of, fit Argon Pulse Turrets, Paranid Large Plasmas, Split Flak so that you get the best turn rate for pulse, longest range for plasmas and highest damage (but shorter range) from flaks, and then All-Round XL engines from Teladi, etc. all mixed up to get "best in class" hybrids. But no race ought to be miles ahead. The recent fix to increase Teladi M class freighter carry weight puts them in a close second place for that, rather than last that they used to have. But rather than be a close last place for small fighters, Argon small fighters occupy that space, and that leaves them overall badly placed, unable to carry much, slow to move, but also the results of building fighters is lackluster at best, terrible at worst. This means if you want a carrier group, you will likely go mostly Paranid but not their carrier. This is not good if the Paranid carrier is a bad carrier, but "acceptable" if overall it's decent to do pure-Paranid, but that is unacceptable if the pure Paranid is so clearly ahead of, say, pure Argon that you would never choose Argon for the poor fighters. These are things that designers at Egosoft have to worry about. What players of the game have to worry about is what they want to do with the fleet(s). Which may be easier if there is a clear winner than if it is a game of better-at-some-worse-at-others in each ship. If the Paranids are better militarily, then they ought to be poor civilians, because overall they are not in a superior position. The Teladi should be better civilians but poor military. The Argon should be "the baseline", average military, average traders. You then put the Split in that paradigm, but moulded to what "lore" you decide is required to follow, e.g. all their stuff, even the traders, are bristling with guns, making the traders expensive or small cargo (or just plain bad fighters) as a "balance", so a Player might start off in a Tuatara as it is able to fight and trade, but is not as good at the job as a specialist.

If you board the Erlking while OOS it wont aggro anything. It has such crap turrets that it should only shoot down a pod or two. I used two freighters but one probably would have gotten it done. I didn't even get the dialogue for capturing it until hours later.

That lost Phoenix down low was having problems with saboteurs. There was one hell of a firefight going on in the engineering sector of that ship. Too bad we didn't get a good copy of the in-ship video before it was purged by internal affairs.

Separate from my other comment, what are some good targets? For example, would a good target be a Terran in an ARG/ANT be a good target?

I have 580 hours and I know that Terrans are OP. I have a save I've been playing on and off since Cradle of Humanity released. Whoever this 2000 hour guy is needs to sit down.

How hard would it be to set up a sort of Arena mode where they load up a single standalone sector and let you set up whatever scenario you feel like, from single fighter duels or convoy escort to a giant free for all between every faction in the game involving hundreds of ships?

3:52 How do you pause the game like this without pulling up the whole pause menu?

5:36 "There just has to be a target within range. Specifically the commander's radar range" Supposing I want increase the typical intercept/bombard engagement range, should I interpret the ambiguity here as: A) Fleet command should have a ship with extra radar range B) The immediate commander of the ships doing intercept and bombard should have a ship with extra radar range C) A commander that is somewhere in the chain above the ships doing intercept and bombard should have a ship with extra radar range

I prefer to slam into the target, this discombobulates the AI, launch pods, let the enemy ship shoot my ship instead until pods are docked….its a bit more piratey…. I actually prefer military ships, they don’t call for help and typically have fewer marines than the Barbarossa You only lose a bit of rep so just spend some time now and then improving it

Your videos are great good job 3 years too late for me but I'm still gonna watch him 3000 hours in so, Although that said I just learned how to use my Carrier properly what a difference now crank and carries out

😂 This is my current goal in my first playthrough! I am RPing as a re-emergence of Old Norse wishing to visit their ancestors homes and since they were not born to Terrans they are denied this right. So they have decided it is time to return Earth to all of her children and to remove her jailers!

Now do one where you conquer the galaxy as the Terran empire

1:52 I see your rule, and I present a loop-hole. Intercept bad near enemy stations, subordinates will tend to 'wander'. This leads to many losses but good automation. Attack/defend good for micromanaged fleets. Bombard best for anti-cap ships escorting a ship as defend order tends to have escorts act too late.

I don't know what that guy who commented is talking about. Computronic Substrate is my money printer.

Snuggles using Terran ships for a video??? *Emperor Palpatine voice: Good... Gooood.... let the Xenon hate flow through you! :P Good video- I had to go looking around the forums to find out what the "fleet roles" actually meant.

Excellent Video Mate!!!

What mods if any do you use?

Tip 1, if you mess up a boarding and have some pods trailing, just quickly catch up with the ship at the gate and ram it. Keep pushing it around, it wont go, pods will eventually catch up. But I avoid those situations by saving just before I board. Tip 2, Get to a neutral system like Napoleons Fortune, and farm those builders, 30m a pop. Tip 3, you dont need to fly by freighters or builders, you can pass by them slowly so pods make a better contact. Their guns are harmless to your ship, but bad for pods far away. Tip 4, you can shoot them to stop travel mode, but if you destroy a surface element its -1 rep. Keep guns disabled all other times.

I agree with everything you said. I cannot add much, but when I start the game I do almost the exact same. Get Odysseus -> buy Shudyku (sp?) -> Get Erlking -> get Asgard (only one pass required, all you need is 30% or more vets) And I agree its such cheese! I do want it removed as it makes the game so easy yet I cannot stop doing it!! Help!

Man I just wanna know why my freighters set to trade for (my auxiliary ship) commander just sit around complaining there’s nothing to do. :(

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finally fleet videos, very nice

Follow is the fleet command I use most! But most of my fleets are built for War Missions asking me to deliver a fleet to a certain location. I don't do a whole lot of shooting. Most of my other fleets are just a captured pirate L ship escorting an L mining ship.

Aye the vid I needed

I just picked up the game on sale a couple weeks ago. It's incredibly addictive, and the tutorials are pretty good, but there's a LOT to unpack that isn't covered. This helped a lot, thanks!

My favourite fleet is me

Thank you. Till now I have kept to single L miners of each resource per sector. I know so little about sector resources per ship etc. I only know an undefended M miner is just a sitting duck. I shall go steal everyone else's M miners, corvettes, and fighters and add them to each of my L miners, mwahaha. Thank you.

Just started a terran play through. Rushed hatikva gate and just as i put down 100mk2 laser turrets 2k’s and an I come through that was a hour wasted😂😂😢

Ah, bombard. People forget that before shore bombardment became a thing, there was ship-to-ship bombardment!

This overview was INCREDIBLY useful! THANK you for taking the time to "oversimplifying" this down to the core concepts. It all makes so much more sense to me now, and I feel like I can actually play around with my fleets and have an idea of what they're doing! 😄

Love your content, thank you.

Oh my god, i have 350h on X4 and i NEVER figured these out, thank you, Captain Snuggles, thank you for this video and an example you provided. You just made this fan of three eyed wierdos so happy.

For military ships you're going to be moving around, try to match all non docked ship's speeds. Your fleet will move in formation and they'll go at the speed of your slowest ship.

i bingewatched/listened all your guides n stuff today in the gym. getting back into the game. last time i played was early 2023 some 350 hours. trying to get a split only game going. any tips? for split fleets and ships? i like support and subscribe to all the stuff you do so far :)

My new favorite use of mimic is for patrol fleets. Usually when a pirate attacks a trader, the patrolling fleet is in the other end of the sector. Having one small feet (usually a corvette and two fighters subordinates) and two similar ones with mimic makes them fly in different positions of the sector and when one pirate shows it's nose, there is a big chance one is close to get there and engage while the other two are in route to join. And if trade routes change, you just change the commander's orders

What about patrol centered in the auto mine circumference? Would that cover both the large and the medium miners? WTB defend position for all fleets

Thanks, guy. :)