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Well, that's your opinion. What makes these alternatives better in your view?

I haven't really explored that method a whole lot to be honest. It might be a better game play experience than the one I teach in the video, although it isn't free.

Well it's for sure not the best way to play the game for free, since you know... It isn't free. I'm not super familiar with the platform, but I'll probably check it out when it goes on sale on steam 🙂

Cool. What I like about this method though, is that you can just slide into someone's edh game on spelltable. In other words, you don't need friends 😅

It costs 19,50 € on steam.

@@ceaselessmtg Pouah xD ! Who will pay it at this price xD !!!? Fortunately, there are keyshops :D !

I'm not saying it's a bad deal. Just that the price of the game is about 5x what you said it is.

@@ceaselessmtg Okay, my message where not clear : the price of the game is about 3 to 4 €$ on keyshops ("On platforms other than Steam").

Fair enough, my bad 🙂

This video is not really a comparison of different ways to play the game for free, but rather a tutorial on a particular way to do so. There are of course alternative options like cockatrice, xmage and untap.in, that each have their pros/cons. Would you be interested in a video about comparing the different options? 🙂

there are other card games that exist that dont require hundreds of dollars to make decks and have been around basically as long as magic

The price of cards is largely speculative and not tied to the cost of designing and printing them

It's the single biggest problem that players experience because it is. It's important to consider the consequences of prescribing any one of many potential solutions to a problem as you've done, indeed most attempts to reduce or remove the price for Magic the Gathering would result in absurdities that players would find less tolerable than having to pay money to play the game. However, until we try one of these solutions, the problems they would cause are only hypothetical and not actual, therefore the original problem remains. Whether or not you can solve that problem today without making things worse doesn't change that it is a problem to be solved.

@@Jeramiahstool Name one, then compare the playerbase.

The argument about "WotC needs to pay all the staff involved" is moot because the money you spend on buying singles to build your decks does not go to WotC, it goes to the person selling you the singles. When you pay $40 for a popular good card that hasn't been reprinted in years, the company makes NO profit from this, and THAT'S the kind of cost that people refer to when they say Magic is expensive

Oh is that so? There seem to be a bunch of other videos on RUclips talking about this.

Moxfoeld's deck test tool is not intended for using like this. They have nothing to do with the way people use it, therefore no risk of being taken down

Not when cockatrice and untap exist

I haven't tried it yet, so it's tough to say. I am curious to try it out, it is a notoriously broken card after all, but I'm also not sure what to cut - the list is pretty tight - or if it's even what the deck needs. Good shout though! 🙂

Thanks man, I'll try to also bring some bo3 content 🙂

Yes absolutely in my experience.

Great comment, thanks a lot 🙏🙂

Yeah it does heavy lifting that's for sure.

I'm the exact opposite lol

Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it 🙏

You're welcome and than you for the feedback, appreciate it 🙏

Yes it's a mistake. The list in the description is the correct one.

Thanks man, really appreciate the kind words 🙏. More coming soon 👌

Just join the dark side to push the ban sounds like a plan 😅 I'm still curious about how much of an actual ban-worthy problem it will be, as we're getting a lot of interesting stuff added to the format with MH3, that could potentially thrive in a scam meta (I have a video comming up about a shell I think could have a favorable scam match up, and still be reasonable against the rest of the field. Regardless of whether or not we see early bans, we're definitely gonna see a lot of scam! 🙂

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video! You're missing the fact that there very much is BO3 in Timeless 😅

@@ceaselessmtg i see now, only in Ranked

Thanks man 🙏 Glad you enjoyed it 🙂

I‘m new to MTG and exclusively play commander with my friends. I currently have the Dihada precon, it‘s bone-stock but good enough to pull face to face with my friends‘ decks. I really don‘t like planeswalkers in commander and Jodah peeked my interest, I don‘t know why but the card just rings to me. So because that precon is an already decent legends-matter beatdown shell, maybe I could upgrade it into a Jodah legends-matter midrange list that might perform better? Do you have any advice on this commander?

Ah yes you're right. The visual overview of the deck in the video is a bit sloppy, but if you click the link in the description you'll get the right numbers. Thanks for pointing it out 👍

Thanks. Why do you think that? I could maybe see your point with the Soulsisters deck (although I think people are underrating the new Sorin), but Affinity not having Bauble seems like a pretty significant difference.

@ceaselessmtg my logic is that the decks you're going to face against are going to be drastically higher power level in timeless vs historic and I don't think these deck are utilizing timeless specific cards well. I agree with you bauble may be a pretty significant downgrade, but the replacement options for what you'd play against in historic seem pretty appealing (spring leaf drum would probably be my choice). I do think affinity might play really well in timeless but I still am skeptical about soul sisters (love these lists though).

@@GeneralCanada I see your point. You gotta factor in the completely new MH3 cards like Sorin, Ocelot and Guide of Souls, of which we have about 0 data about, in terms of how they would perform in Timeless. And even though the deck is more or less fully Historic legal, you also can't necessarily draw conclusions about it's viability in Timeless, as those formats are vastly different. So in this case specifically, Sorin's -1 seems better as a way to finish the game in a fetchland format, full of Reanimate and Death's Shadow.

@@ceaselessmtg really good point, I think I've been underestimating the new sorin (or the flip walkers in general).

Yeah they synergize neatly. Thanks man, I'll start posting Timeless Gameplay content when mh3 drops 👌

Sure man. It's probably just gonna be in small numbers, like we see in modern. 🙂

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Thanks! That's awesome! What are you looking forward to trying out? 🙂

My Kenrith stuff of legends deck has odric and Jodah as hidden commanders

Agreed. I think if you can manage to build a mana base where you get to play Ugin's Labyrinth, without everything else being too awkward, we could have a deck that's explosive enough to fight through those decks, but that's the challenge. Did you watch my video about Scam in Timeless btw? 🙂

@@ceaselessmtg I did! We'll see what shell fits scam best, but looking at modern's example I feel like rakdos scam has the most pieces to dominate.

Thanks a lot man! 🙏 Will do!

Thanks 🙏 I think that I would for an Eldrazi Stompy shell with Chalice to be a thing, although in reality Labyrinth is not gonna be enough to sustain it. We need at least one of either Eldrazi Temple, Eye of Ugin or just actual Ancient Tomb. And I think it's to say whether or not you could play Devourer of Destiny in affinity. It's more consistently gonna be able to hit Labyrinth on t1, but at the same time you're lowering your artifact count, and I don't think you can do a lot of that before you end with a net negative in terms of overall consistency.

@@ceaselessmtg more sol lands would be great. Its a shame there are no new eldrazi/devoid spells in black but maybe theres a BGx eldrazi deck that uses dark ritual to power out chalice and TKS. I just want chalice to be a thing in timeless - stompy builds especially 8cast/patchwork stompy are my jam in legacy when i get a chance to play it.

Thanks a lot 🙏

True, it might be the case that access to potent card advantage cards like Treasure Cruise could out a damper on scam decks. Although, like I mentioned, it's the top deck in Legacy at the moment, which is a format with a lot of degenerate stuff going around.

@@ceaselessmtg it's curious to see how the format shapes up :)

@@ceaselessmtg I’ve been playing now. I was wrong. Broken Card Advantange doesn’t change much, because you just put it into your scam decks too. I have 38-5 from combined from two lists. One is UB Scam powered by Treasure cruise and flare of denial. The other deck is BW scam powered by Necro

Yeah buddy. Det begynder at gå stærkt nu. Har snart en video mere klar!

Like it's not just good for the obvious reason, satoru works with efemorate and no evoke and means your evoke works in satoru but no efemorate situations unlike recruiter (and similar) not doing anything to make your evokes unfair, in this way I find it hard to believe WB will be better then WUB in terms of grinding

True, Satoru could be good in a dimir shell for sure.

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 🙂