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I was a never trumper. I felt so guilty and had so much fear about going to hell. I knew my Christian friends would treatment as a non believer. It has been a really hard time to reconstruct. I am not sure what I believe anymore. I had profound spiritual experience before becoming a Christian. I know I need to start there. I still don't myself holding to old prejudices about God that I still feel I am going to he'll over

I waa called Marxist, babykiller, and pure evil when ftom the beginning I found Trump abhorrent, voted Democrat ( from the start of my faith, in 1971, to now) and believed in science, social justice, the environment, and practiced indiscriminate love for people whoever they were. I taught some gay kids and gad to run interference for them to protect them from the hateful cruelty from many of their peers. My first vote was cast for Jimmy Carter, loathed Reagan, Bush 1 and 2, then Trump. Ugh. Im a reader, and knew America's sordid true history, so the mythologies in Christian circles about the " divine founding of this nation" and the White Supremacy that undergirds much of the fantasy around this nation's beginninings. The truth is essential if we are going to move forward. I went through a 8 year deconstruction in 1995, but never really bought a lot of the Charismatic practices that were labeled " Faith." That faith in faith, instead of faith in Jesus can quickly become a form of idolotry, because it puts us in seat of control, rather than true trust in God. I've heard it all. I admire your courage, April and your honesty. I still feel like a stranger in the midst of Christian community. I try , but it is all one sided. I cant go along just to get along. At some point, truth needs to be said. Then the fangs come out. It has been a great grief to me to watch God's people march like lemmings over a cliff. Please keep speaking out. God has given you at voice. Hopefully, it will cause some to rethink the dogma and really turn back to the Christ of the scriptures.

It's great to hear these de-conversion stories with people coming to the realization of how hypocritical religion can be. It's sad how delusional people can get with god belief.

Jay looks like his dad. Jim and Tammy Faye were a daily view for me.

Reza Aslan is the man.

It is so weird to grow up as a Catholic, and there was none of this Christian Nationalist stuff. I think the main reason is because of bigotry against Catholics and because we have a pope, so we don't really have an identity attachment to America. So they are not as attached to a political movement in this country. And it's scary to see how these people have made a political movement from people's desire for salvation. It makes me sick and it reminds me of the bible passage when Jesus goes into the temple and flips the tables. And in my Catholic education, we learned about many different worldviews, learning about secular and religious philosophies alike. It was a great experience, and it makes these other denominations so frightening.

There is an over 2000 year history of Christian anti-Judaism and antisemitism.

Some of the founding fathers were Deists, not Christian. There is no such thing as “Judeo-Christian. They mean Christian.

They are not pro-Israel. Israel is a pawn in the Second Coming when Jews will convert or eventually end up in Hell. Israel will become a Jewish state with no Jews in it.

God did send help. God sent the doctor who performed your hysterectomy.

Girls, the problem is that christianity breeds extremists. If it did not exist, there would be no extremists either. (ditto Islam) I'm Australian and we have only 43% christians, yet we have a five times lower a crime rate than the highly christian US per each 1000 people. The majority of Australians are not christian and are decent family orientated people who get along well with our fellow human beings and we don't need religion to have what I call, basic moral standards. Also the worlds most secular countries have the lowest crime rates. 🇦🇺🦘

Great discussion Thank you 🙏 ❤

This was just what I needed! Listening to Brandy while tending my garden was so good for the soul.❤

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My pastor is doing this now! I have not been able to go! I live in California and this church is very racially integrated, and I do know that I have heard he did the same thing before the last election, and many left. I may have to leave, which is heartbreaking because I have many good friends that attend, and completely supported me 9 years ago after my husband passed away.

I was raised in the Spanish Church so I don’t deconstruct, I decolonize!

Thanks for your honesty about your journey. You are not alone is a powerful message all by itself.

Enjoyed the discussion! Thanks to both of you.

I am a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic with delusional affectations. I understand how falsehood can seem to be true. I also have been homeless and have lived in a home for the mentally ill and the developmentally disabled. So I have a different perspective on politics. When I learn that a politician is a Republican immediately I cannot bring myself to vote for them. I am also a strong Christian, an ordained Elder in the COGIC.

How do you take "Christian" principles and divorce them from the character of the messenger? Seems pretty cynical to me.

This was one of the single most encouraging, uplifting, positive and Christ-like conversations that I have listened to in the past ten years. Yes, Tom is my friend- but I have never heard the succinct way in which he answered questions about deconstruction and his faith journey, as well as described what it means to reconstruct that faith into his decidedly Christian walk. Thanks Tom ! I love you!

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The universal Truth is that truth is singular.

What a great podcast ! Jim Palmer ❤👍

Thanks for having me on the show! ❤ Loved talking with you both!