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It may be a bit overkill for a small 13 year old... But if the 13 year old was taught how to safely and properly use the various workstations on the gym, he or she should be able to use it effectively.

You'd have to try and contact Sony, but I'd unlikely that these posts would be available anymore. Best bet is to be in the lookout for any used, non-working XE-8's that people may be selling for parts. Unfortunately, this will probably be a nearly impossible find.

I don't... But I will say that the owner's manual is downloadable from the BodyCraft website and if followed you should have no problems putting this together.

@@KevinWidomski I saw that manual on their website and it looked confusing . I did find a video of a couple putting one together. Thank you

​@@_dakota_298can you pls share the links?

Id rather have the one with the cables behind it. You can feel the stretch throughout the whole rep.

Hi, If it's the older M3, then definitely I'd go with the Hoist. If it's the newer M3 (pretty sure it's going to be the black one), that one added some of the isolateral functionality that the M4 had, after they discontinued the M4. So, the newer M3 is going to be a much closer call between that & the Hoist V4 Elite. For you it will depend on how important the isolateral movement is. The Hoist is a battleship. The Inspire is also very well made, just not quite as much heavy gage steel as the Hoist. Leg press... Hoist wins hands down. If it were me, I'd go Hoist... Then you'd have the option of adding the hi-lo pulley tower down the road if you ever wanted. Good luck with your decision!

Hi, at this point in time your only option is to try & find one on the used market. They pop up on eBay and Facebook marketplace every so often.

It sold for $285 on eBay if I am remembering correctly.

Hi, This Hoist V4 Elite set was a VERY nice gym. There were definitely things about it that I liked better than the Inspire M4. Namely the V-ride leg press was much better than the Inspire leg press, and I really liked the articulating bench arms. It's not fully isolateral capable like the M4, but it's a beast of a gym. It's also built like a battleship. The Inspire is a more precision machine, and I liked the flexibility of the Inspire bench. I also liked the Inspire Hi-Lo pulley better as well as the split lat tower. Both the Inspire M4 and the Hoist V4 Elite are absolutely super high end gyms, and you can't go wrong with either!

Hi, the Inspire M4 gym & leg press in this video has been sold. It is no longer being made by Inspire, which is why you don't see it on their website, other than maybe a download of the user/assembly manual.

@@KevinWidomski thanks. I recently bought M3 but not happy with it. The seat is no stable and wiggly all over. M4 certainly looks more stable and side bar pulleys are attractive!

I really like the articulating arms on this gym. They're just very convenient. The straps will give the most dumbbell like workout. Still not the total range of motion that you get with dumbbells...but for a selectorized home gym, I think it's a good compromise

Did you buy the V4?

@@gutenbird Hi. I ended up getting a treadmill instead and don’t have enough room in my gym for both. It’s been getting hot in central cali so running outside isn’t always practical.

Hi Michael. I would say that the M4 construction is very slightly below actual commercial quality gyms... meaning there's really not a lot of the thick plate metal like you see on commercial gyms... And the weight stack guide rods are solid .75 diameter on the M4, while they are usually solid 1.00 diameter on commercial weight stack units. That being said... The QUALITY of the frame pieces, the welding, the finish, and just the overall design, are exceptional, and as I stated on the video... near military quality/grade.

@@KevinWidomski thank you for the great information and video review. More is needed because my M2 is amazing for a home gym and like you have said not like the commercial stuff as I had a body max like the matrix stuff I see in the gym that is below techno gym, but in the video it sounded like something you would find in a gym where as my M2 is like you said slightly below

Hi Brian, once disassembled, I fit this entire gym (including the leg press) in the back of a 2018 Chevy Traverse. No trailer needed.

@@KevinWidomski : because i move every few years back and forth overseas....is this hard to assemble and disassemble? is there a video on that?

@@mistadj it's not hard to assemble & disassemble, but it is pretty complex and takes time to do it right. I will say that the manual is very helpful with the step by step instructions.

I am currently using the Hoist V-Core system. It's no longer in production, but it's a very well made, versatile set.

@@KevinWidomski I see. How would you compare it to your Hoist V4 with leg press or Inspire M4 with leg press? It seems like a big downgrade since the Elite series are the best Hoist has to offer. I am asking because I have the Hoist V2 with leg press and it has no arms for the chest exercises. Instead, I use the cable attachments for everything, so it feels like a modern functional trainer (but has only one weight stack as opposed to two). Our units are both from circa 2004, but still working perfectly. Hoist really has the best build quality in the home gym industry other than Tuff Stuff. So, I want to know why you switched from the V4 to the M4 and then to the V Core. What made you ultimately switch back to Hoist?

@@dasemendemon While the Inspire unit is very well designed and built, I found that the Hoist stuff is just built like a battleship. There are things about each of these gyms that I like. The Roc-it leg press on the Hoist is much better than this Inspire leg press. When I sold the Hoist, I missed that leg press, and the articulating arms of the bench press. Even though the M4 has a very nice bench with lots of positions, I just liked the feel of the Hoist V4 Elite bench press better, even though it lacked the isolateral movement. Ultimately, the reason that I went with the V-core set, was that it offers the rock solid build quality of Hoist, with isolateral movement of the bench press and the upper lat cables. It also has a dedicated roc-it leg ext/curl station and the nice leg press too. It's like a refined V2, or a V2 on steroids. There is surprising little Hoist V-core info available online or on RUclips, so I plan to do a video on that in the near future.

@@KevinWidomski You, sir, are a legend. Not only did you answer all of my questions perfectly, you provided the best review of these rare products which have very few resources (videos, manuals, reviews, comparisons, etc) available online. I look forward to your V-Core review! I might upgrade from my V2. :)

I got one for sale in california

@@rodolfomendoza2404 how much

Thanks! Good luck with the assembly.👍 All those cables can be pretty daunting, but the manual does a nice job showing how they are all routed. I'd be glad to try & answer any questions you might have.

​@@KevinWidomski Thank you :) For those reading this who might be having some trouble snaking the cable thru the leg extension rail (the cable gets stuck behind one of those three bolts connectors welded to the rail). Here's how I solved it. *The cable was very curved and I kept straightening it until it finally snaked past the bolt post*

Do you have an images of how you connected the cables. The manual is not at all helpful in my opinion.

Do you by chance know how much each weight weighs?

@@allroofsinc1 Each weight plate is 10 lbs. The top plate, where the cable attaches, is 15 lbs. Total weight is 215 lbs.

How much did you sell it for?

I found an Inspire fitness M4 gym with leg press that I got in like new condition for a very good price. The M4 is no longer available from Inspire and it's very hard to find them pre-owned. It has some features that the Hoist didn't have. This was not an easy decision and in some ways I do regret selling the Hoist set.

@@KevinWidomski Thanks for the info.

Hi, there should be a fitness/exercise store near you that would have them, but this will be expensive new. Look on EBay or Facebook Marketplace for good deals on a used one.

Thanx...👍

I have sold the unit, so I can't measure the width without the hi-lo pulley, but the Hoist website says that the V4 gym with the Roc-it leg press is 82.25 wide by 82.50 deep.

Sorry, this is been sold.

Sorry, this has been sold.