Видео

There were mini templates in the set, yes.

If you didn't order the cards, I posted some print and play cards here: planetsmashergames.com/news/print-play-hobgoblin-fortune-cards/

You can have a play around with that in the army builder app right away, without the book, if you fancy: hobgoblin.indietabletop.club/

That sounds like a good house rule. In practice, you won't find it happens too much, but if it's not to your taste, totally cool to house rule. I prefer to think about it as a mechanical expression of the simultaneous action on the battlefield. In my head, it isn't that one unit moves into a frozen enemy unit, then the frozen enemy unit wakes up, and sidesteps into their flank, its that two huge messes of fantasy warriors charge towards each other, and in the chaos, one misjudges the position of the other, and that unit is able to capitalise on that, and get an advantageous position.

You can head to the Electi website to buy cards, or find me at Dragonmeet in London, or download the print & play cards here: planetsmashergames.com/news/print-play-hobgoblin-fortune-cards/

I should definitely have a read of that one. I don't know it.

@planetsmashergames its from British Mantic. It is in several editions now, but first was good untill too many factions ruined balance. Roll 3d6, roll skill of player, modify with more or less dice. Exploding 6s. Mayhem, fun.

The activation is actually what gives it its dynamic feel. You get 5 tokens and may reactivate figures.

Here's the thing with alternate activations: they are not a better solution for every game. And my selection of this hybrid phased activation system is very specific. In full-force activation systems (IGOUGO), you get a massive exchange of game state. I get to make a big change to my army, and you don't get to interrupt it. That's good for strategically-focused games, but has the well-known and massive downside of large player downtime. In partial-force activation systems (alternative activation), you get a tiny little exchange of game state. You can't execute a major strategic plan, you can just move a single unit, and often that means just tackling the most immediate and pressing threat. The upside: we both play regularly, the downsides: we can't make big or clever plans, as we are constantly interrupting each other. Also, each time we handover gameplay, their is an opportunity for tempo drop ("it's your go. Mike, it's you go) which can make the game's playtime longer. My choice of a hybrid phased activaiton system is trying to find (for a mass battle game) the right balance between strategic gameplay, keeping both players involved (the fortune cards also help with this), limited player handover moments, swift gameplay, short total game time. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk, my textbook is out in November: www.routledge.com/The-Fundamentals-of-Tabletop-Miniatures-Game-Design-A-Designers-Handbook/Ford-Hutchinson/p/book/9781032324012

Haha, yeah. It's still baaaasically a roll off, but its a roll-off that never gets tied, and ice-breaks a conversation about what hobby you have done recently, so that's nice.

Oh, that's a shame. The reason is that the publisher is new, and is trying to build their audience and distribution list, and is asking you if a free game in exchange for the ability to do is okay. If its not, that's okay.

I believe so. Electi is just getting through the KS fulfilment, and then it will be available in the UK (I've already seen it listed on the WHSmith and Waterstones websites).

@@planetsmashergames Amazing news! I will look forward to getting hold of a copy as soon as I can!

Oh hey! Thanks dude. Love your channel by the way.

@ Ty your games rule 🖤

While Mike forgets to remember the "Who's Next?" rule!

Yeah! Gotta have those chain-reactions, that's much of the cinema of mass battle games.

I sorta wish it were more random though, like D3-1 doom for each unit or something.

I like that. Cool idea for a house rule. Worth trying. The reason it isn't random is that I was Dead Serious about making a big-ass fantasy battle game take sub-90 minutes, and everywhere you put a dice roll or a moment of player handover is another little micro-slowdown that extends the game time. To get Hobgoblin to be as fast as it is I had to make little compromises and nips/tucks like this all over the game.

@@planetsmashergames yeah that makes a lot of sense, and is what I suspected. I just love those moments when the game runs away with itself, and would be happy to slow things down a tiny bit to allow for it.

Only way they'll learn...

The very same. Take a shot!

Electi is just getting through the KS fulfilment, and then the physical copies are available again.

The Doom rules are really only their for a single reason: make sure my newly painted monster gets to roll some dice in combat before I have to take it off! All Doom really does is take all the wounds and resolve them at the end of the turn, so murder is simultaneous, but simple to deal it. Things can die, but they get their turn to do stuff before they do. It's honestly such a good feeling to know something is a dead-man walking and still get to do something heroic or dramatic with it before it gets taking off. Much more cinematic, and solves the alpha-strike problem that 90% of minis games have.

@@planetsmashergames I get that now after seeing the game in action. I was initially mostly turned off by the 40k style "I go you go" turn structure but that's why a Learn to Play is great, you get a REAL taste of the game. Also, much better to support small/single games creators rather than the corporate behemoth that is GW. Thanks for taking the time to reply man! Cheers!

No problem! <nerd_voice>Technically, its actually a phased system, rather than an IGOUGO system, as you don't have to watch me do everything with my whole army, only one phase. I choose that structure very particularly, so that we can have a big sweeping battle line movement, and set up a strategic puzzle for the opponent, but not have to sit out of the game for chunks at a time.

@ Hah! Well played Sir. And it’s that phase system that wins the day. Don’t think I can ever go back to the old ways. And thanks for the reply, reminded me to pick up the game. Been a little awful here in the US

Nice! Yes. I have taught the game to kids at conventions over the last year, and honestly, evoking the feelings of those early games of Battlemasters as a kid was very much the vibe, so glad that resonates with you!

Yes! And so should the goblin infantry at the end when they beat the cannon!

@@HasteHobbies That is correct! Disengaging is covered on page 44 of the Hobgoblin rulebook. “Units that start their movement activation engaged with an enemy unit must end that activation engaged with it, or they count as disengaging from that enemy unit. They can temporarily leave contact with the unit as part of their manoeuvres, but must end the activation back in contact with it, or count as disengaging.” Flanking is referred to as “Outmaneuvering” on page 45. It seems to only require one unit engaged in the flank or rear, not multiples. “If your unit is in base-contact with a side edge, rear edge or rear corner of an enemy unit, it has outmanoeuvred it, and the enemy unit gains the Outmanoeuvred weakness.” “Outmaneuvered: Weakness. Reserved. This unit reduces its Courage by 1 for each enemy unit in base-contact with this unit’s side edges, rear edge or rear corners. This unit may not assign more than 5 attack dice to an enemy unit that is touching one of its side edges or rear corners. This unit may not assign more than 3 attack dice to an enemy unit that is touching its rear edge.”

@@zuzudakka so, unless I have other units besides me, moving into contact with an enemy is a downside? They can just scoot and I roll half as many dice and have 1 less hp?

@@HasteHobbiescharging into the fray alone is not always the most tactically sound maneuver. Maybe against slower “dwarf” units akin to those in this video, movement 4-6 might not allow them to counter-charge effectively. A light infantry or cavalry units have plenty of movement to play with though if presented the opportunity!

@@zuzudakka Sure. Other games in the genre tend to reward " getting the charge off " whereas like you say if I charge a fast unit I may end up getting flanked or charged in the rear myself by that same unit. Just a little counterintuitive I think not bad

In full sized games you can bring buddies to cover your flank. Chasing light calvary on foot is dangerous.

IKR

They just skipped their breakfast

He was my one of my gaming heroes growing up, it's so rad to get to hang out now.

Thank you sir!

And a very fun one too. ruclips.net/video/bWDNKWvj9Dk/видео.html

At least two more cued up for editing, so you will have your wish.

They were a KS exclusive. I believe Electi are looking into a longer-term supplier, but they aren't available right now.

This sounds like my kind of party.

Preach

It's so classic. (If only the 'print' function on the army builder wasn't so damn good! :D )

Thanks! You and me are wanting the same things from life, I see.

The honest answer is that its a new publisher, and they are still learning the ropes here. The physical book is temporarily unavailable while the KS fulfils, but will be available again shortly. I'm weighing up the pros and cons of selling my stock locally, the issue being that it might get to folks before the KS backers all have there's. It's a minefield!

I see. That explains why Amazon and Waterstones, who were inviting preorders, have been showing it as temporarily unavailable since the ostensible publication date, which I found mystifying as well as disappointing. (I’d have been more annoyed as. backer to see non-backers getting their copies first). It would, however, be good to be able to buy at least the Doom Dial & tokens from you by mail, if this is feasible, as not everyone - including myself - can easily get to conventions, even given sufficient time for planning. You’re probably aware, BTW, that some of your thunder is about to be stolen by the equally long-awaited - though not Kickstarted - Midgard. Fortunately they seem to be sufficiently different games not to really be in competition but the timing can be to the advantage of neither. Chaos rules and the balance must be restored!

As many may have already learned, the Hobgoblin rule book and cards can now be purchased directly from Electi Studio, as well as Amazon. ES is saying these pre-orders will start being posted in two - three weeks, no doubt to allow for the earlier pre-orders that followed the Kickstarter to be sent out. Amazon is currently giving a dispatch estimate of from one to three months. I've placed my order with ES, to be delivered by Royal Mail, which should arrive late this month. This has been a public service announcement.

I'm still finding bits of dice in my compost...

It ain't real until you can spill beer on it.

Not quite, but they should be on their way right after.

Update: They have started shipping now!

Hope you enjoy it! I'm having a blast introducing some more friends to it.

Soon as I understand. I can see the books and cards already listed on UK websites like WHSmiths and Waterstones, and I know there are books in a UK warehouse.

Shortly. Once all Kickstarter and preorder copies have been shipped, we'll open sales back up on the website. I'm think roughly, two-three weeks max!

Haha. Those cheesy "double-doom-dial" units...

I believe very soon. I can see the books and cards already listed on UK websites like WHSmiths and Waterstones, and I know there are books in a UK warehouse.

Yes, they will be available. This will be our first time doing this so we're not 100% clear on the timing. Sounds like the end of the year.

Amazon is also listing it, with a publication date of 29 October. The book is £39.99 but there’s no sign of the cards.

I was wrong about the cards. Both Waterstones and Amazon are showing the Fortune Deck at £16.99, again available from 29 October.

I wish I knew exactly when. I'm being told 'a few weeks'. The physical book is temporarily unavailable while the KS fulfils, but will be available again after that. I'm weighing up the pros and cons of selling my stock locally, the issue being that it might get to folks before the KS backers all have there's. It's a minefield!

I want to get to PT, but it's not just yet. I want to do a full awesome version, but I don't want to do it as my first KS campaign, as it'll be too complex and I don't want to totally balls it up. I'm going to do something simpler first, and then use the experience to do Perilous Tales right.

Soon! Soon... I want to get to PT, but it's not just yet. I want to do a full awesome version, but I don't want to do it as my first KS campaign, as it'll be too complex and I don't want to totally balls it up. I'm going to do something simpler first, and then use the experience to do Perilous Tales right.

I appreciate this comment, and I can definitely see that the contracts in the book ask a lot from the new players. I think they deliver value for that faff, but its definitely faff.