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damn dude you KILLED it! one of my favorite maps too ;)

Yo this guy going crazy

Pertty sick

Glad you decided to started uploading! In case you weren't aware you can press Z twice to show the speed in replays.

how are you able to drift like that? do you have to be at high speed?

ok wtf

creamy

See you in 4 years!

I'll get on that wall eventually

Erm, what the?

i doubt you’ll see this comment, but i just want to say that you are one of the few people who can swing a sword in real life and not look like a massive idiot/nerd. some of those clips of you could be honestly be fight choreography for a LOTR movie or something

You can easily incorporate spamming attacks with flurry rush, you don't wait for attacks at all and you don't have to knock them away and follow them either. The different melee weapons don't offer anything to the game. The full powered master sword pretty much trumps all of them based on high tier damage and permanent reuse without having to go out and find high tier weapons. The twilight princess sword tech would have definitely been a welcome addition, being able to roll around a target and strike would have been a far more balanced tactic than what flurry rush does simply for the facts that you only strike once and you don't get invincibility, the rolling stab will also be sorely missed from tp. Being able to roll under high horizontal attacks and strike feels more organic than getting instant invulnerability from an attack because you simply dodged in the right direction. The finisher also would have been nice and wouldn't encourage me to awkwardly delay attacks all the time, yet would still be risky among crowds and require thought on when to use it based on AI patterns within a crowd. I also wouldn't mind the strong jump attack, I think botw's variant in relying on height for more damage doing it is awful design and serves as a weak surprise attack that just risks you getting injured. You are also wrong in that previous Zelda games only had 1 weapon type. Tp itself had the ball and chain and majora's mask had forms with all kinds of abilities that trump the weapon variety in botw, the goron can mow over crowds, has an aoe quake that could work the same way as two handers, and also has strong fiery punches that cannot pierce chuchus as a drawback. The zora has a magic stun shield, and side striking elbow blades that become stunning or damaging dual boomerangs. The deku scrub can shoot a random pathing magic bubble and has a quick evade that stuns the target. Inherently these forms also give more terrain mobility variety than what botw offers.

lol

I strongly dislike the idea of removing the flurry as it’s link special ability as a champion Other than that and a couple other things I really like the new ideas they sound way more fun

I'm... not quite sure what you mean by generous when you say the flurry rushes and parry opportunities are generous. I aim for the exact moment that the swing takes place every time, but the swing isn't advertised at all. I've played BotW, and it is impossible to consistently parry and flurry rush, and the ultimate cause is being at a stuttery 30 FPS giving inconsistent animation information to the eyes (compare: OoT which is designed for 30 FPS), not even considering the advertising issue. If the moment in which the attack takes place is in the middle of that 33 1/3 milliseconds, then you cannot time for it. It is physically impossible without higher FPS. If I weren't so lazy about setting up Switch or Wii U emulation, I'd just download the games and play them on my PC at 100Hz, and my frustration in that regard would be gone, but I'd just get bored out of my mind hitting things at a snails pace. Seriously, do the devs just lack common sense? Do they have like 500ms reflexes? That you can't get good if you try to match what you see on screen, but instead just don't bother and dodge well after an attack has occurred? Even guardian lasers are worthy of complaining about here. Try tracking it with how fast it goes frame by frame in a video. There just isn't enough information for you unless you're standing like 100 meters away and the camera's just right! I literally have zero problems playing games at my monitor's native 100Hz refresh rate, or games that don't require reflex timings to play which do just fine at 30 FPS, or at least not with Halo Reach if my own skill and time put into it isn't indicative of that (you'll just have to take my word for it). I have never felt this much frustration before, let alone in a "Zelda" game, but as you pointed out, this series has always been primarily about puzzles, but even then, at least the combat was good enough that I didn't feel like I was being cheated. You can still clear a room of enemies in any true Zelda game with just a sword and shield easily without getting hit once, though it's still pretty flat and gets dull after a while. In hindsight, though, the combat in Zelda games has always been a means to an end, never front and center despite the master sword being a weapon on your person at all times, and a different sword before that, coupled with a shield. Smash Bros Brawl combat in a 3D open world RPG wen

Here in 2023. Letting you know that Tears of the Kingdom has the same problems with combat if I understand your video correctly.

If BotW had the combat of Fromsoft games, it would be absolutely perfect. But alas, the combat is very convoluted and cumbersome.

Wind Waker had better combat, and it was made 20 years ago

Another argument against this being "too complicated" is that the game came out in 2017. Games that came out before 2017 already had more complex battle systems than BotW. "It's too complicated"? No, BotW's combat is just simple. Not that its simplicity is necessarily bad. Being able to completely destroy monsters without much effort feels good. But only sometimes, and it gets boring fast. That's exactly the reason why I find it hard to stay engaged in the Assassin's Creed series. There are a few different attacks _all_ enemies will perform, depending on the type of weapon they're using, and you can respond in several ways depending on the type of weapon you're using. But before you're even halfway through the game, you've already experienced every combination and finisher the game has to offer, making combat a chore. Again, it's nice to be able to destroy enemies without much effort, but only sometimes, and that fun only lasts so long before the combat becomes boring again. As I said before, simplicity isn't bad, to a point. But a system that forces players to either git gud or fail isn't a good enough reason to get rid of the simplicity. In theory, the system you propose still allows players to play a simple game, but in practice it actually punishes them for not being good enough to take on most enemies. You may not know this, but enemies get progressively harder even without defeating any Divine Beasts. If you wait long enough, red bokoblins will be replaced with blue ones, blue ones with black ones and black ones with white ones. Same with every other enemy type. Also, following your suggestions, the Blight Ganons would require a non-simple game plan to defeat. This means that players who don't want to play more than a simple game will inevitably be forced to either learn the battle system and develop complex strategies or only attack blue enemies and avoid all bosses, which in turn would mean that not only will these players never acquire Champion abilities, they'll also never beat the game. And on the topic of blue enemies, once red enemies vanish it's actually very rare to find camps or forts that have _only_ blue enemies. Most have black or white enemies too, which means that a player like I've mentioned would never be able to clear a camp and would always be under threat. Of course, the easiest solution is to just give players a simple way to defeat every enemy of every skill level. But while it's not a _bad_ thing for players to have an easy out if they simply cannot defeat a certain enemy or boss, it also creates a situation where the entire alternate battle system loses its purpose. Some people would stick with the system and develop their own combat style (myself included), but I expect many more would use the plain and simple system that ultimately gets them the same results (ie. defeating enemies and bosses). I think the best way to accomplish the complexity you're going for without overwhelming anybody is to gradually introduce the various mechanics and require players to make use of them to complete relevant trials (akin to the runes and shrines on the Great Plateau), but also include the ability to skip the process altogether so returning players can get right into the game. Honestly though, I think adding even just a few of the mechanics you mentioned would be an improvement, such as intelligent AI and various weapon types having different effects. Like, even if the animation didn't change and Link stayed put and all the rest, just for heavy blades being able to break wooden shields vs. clubs knocking shields away; changes like that would be a massive improvement. Considering that the battle system you suggest reflects real sword combat, I think the inclusion of dojos or training centres would be appropriate. Something like the Clock Town dojo in MM or the less official one on Outset in WW. Places you can go to practice the basics. To keep them relevant, the instructor could increase their level as you get better. How exactly that would work, I don't know. But I think the mere existence of even a single dojo would feel appropriate. But BotW's combat doesn't need to be as complex as suggested. In fact, it probably shouldn't. Bringing it up to the level of Monster Hunter and the like isn't horrible for gamers like you and me, and as you said, even kids can master such deep systems. But at the end of the day, BotW was meant to be accessible to a wide audience that extends beyond people like us. While young adults and kids might find a more complex system fun, engaging and ultimately rewarding, older people might not. You know, the ones whose reflexes aren't as sharp and who take more time to learn even the simple stuff. Same with casual gamers who only play games like New Super Mario Bros. and Wii Sports. That's why the game is so lenient when it comes to dodging and parrying, and why flurry rush is so all-encompassing. That's also why most weapons act the same way and why most enemies and bosses attack the same way. BotW was intended to draw in a larger audience who might otherwise not play a Zelda game or RPG, or _any_ game for that matter. The sequel is supposed to be more complex and cater more to people like us. At least, that was the original intention. I've been actively avoiding any news of it for the last year or two, so all I know is that it's set in the same world and called The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.

It's been 2 years since this video was posted. (At the time of this comment) Does this video still reflect your views?

Finally someone with some sense man the combat is pretty boring in breath of the wild

Great video with an obvious shit-load of work put in; it's always great to find long-form Zelda content. That being said, I do have problems with some things that were said. Being upfront, I'm a longtime Zelda fan, but BotW is not one of my favorites, and some of what I'll say is because of personal preference (which I'll try to note). And sorry for the length, but I figure you'd prefer it to a post that says "first!" or "wow, it's an hour-long video". You say that traditional Zelda combat is "too simple to be fun" (2:57). I think I understand what you were trying to convey, but it's a little disingenuous to say that a simple combat system is inherently unfun and use that as a way to dismiss its value. I think if it were so objectively unfun there wouldn't be fans of the combat systems from TP or WW, nor would there be people asking for hidden skills from Twilight Princess to return. I wouldn't be surprised if, for some people, the simple combat system of traditional Zelda is a comforting experience given that so many games do try to create mechanically complex combat. On the topic of those Hidden Skills, you first say "...Link would be left with an incomplete moveset that you have acquire" and then go on to say "... if you think that starting with all the moves (Hidden Skills) would not be fun, then maybe the moves are only fun because you have to earn them." Personally, I don't enjoy starting with everything and it's one of my major problems with BotW, but my issue with this idea is that it implies that if you don't like the idea of removing the sense of progression felt by unlocking new abilities, then the abilities themselves are boring or bad. If I were able to use all Hidden Skills at the start of TP, I would miss out on so much. Acquiring and using them feels so good and discovering previous encounters that now have a completely different way of tackling them is amazing. Going through Hyrule Castle, blitzing through enemies because I went out of my way to unlock these skills feels amazing because I made it so. It wasn't just a part of Link's base kit. But even so, the abilities themselves are just fun outright. Mortal Draw is immensely satisfying, Back Slice changes how you deal with harder / larger groups of enemies (not just Darknuts), and Shield Attack is so great that you even use it in your redesign of BotW combat. It's all about that sense of progression. And while I like the idea of increasing Link's base damage / defense / agility, I think it would be better suited to a second system that exists outside of spirit orbs. IMO, it should probably function like the Spirit Gems from Phantom Hourglass. It could replace some copy-paste Korok Seed puzzles with something a little more complex. (4:31) "Breath of the Wild's combat is better than all previous games..." For some people. This is not an objective fact of BotW. - = - = - = - That being said, after hearing all of your ideas for a more involved combat system, I do like most of them. Less dominant strategy, less hoarding, and more versatility. One of the few downsides is that it would make BotW feel incredibly combat focused with the level of depth presented here. With that so, I think having the ability to not engage with the combat and still be able to "button mash" actually detracts from the experience since it would mean that players technically don't have to learn anything or engage with the fun part of what you created. Sometimes restricting the player's "freedom" creates a more engaging experience.

correction: Intentional Combat in Breath of the Wild Could Be Better

I'm late to the party but the learning AI would be cool if paired with the blood moon. If all the enemies you killed come back and know your fighting style it would mean you'd have to change your fighting style against that enemy everytime you return to an area after blood moons

amazing video. very underrated.

En réalité,le fonctionnement du jeu est très simple à reproduire,mais les graphismes,eux sont plus compliqué à reproduire ^^'

“Simple”

Whats 9+10 Calculator:21

This is very impressive compared to the game my friends and I played on our TI-84s in high school. Back then we were happy with Tetris and NSFW text adventure games.

bro you need to make more vid

An awesome video that deserves way more attention. My favorite idea by far is making the AI 'remember' your attack patterns.

Wanna mod?

Your video is great, that's all I have to say.

how about this combat www.reddit.com/r/ZeldaConcepts/comments/ncru7n/combat_control/?context=3

so you want the button a to be also a heavy attack

How the fuck this has less than 1k views and you don't have above 500k subs? Awesome video and you put my toughts about the combat into words. Keep up the great work man.

Holy crap, an hour of this? Sign me up. :D "In Monster Hunter, players can stay back and evade, staying in the enemy's blind spots, or play aggressively and attack whenever an opening shows itself." As an insect glaive user, I prefer to take both of these options simultaneously. XD I heavily agree with the enemy animations making reading the animations more of a problem than it should be. I also find that some enemy attacks have such an excessive wind-up that they feel unnatural and become more frustrating to time well just due to how little sense the motion makes, such as an enemy taking way too long to fall out of the sky during an attack. It’s okay for enemies to deliberately vary the timing of a move, but the wind up and follow through still need to feel somewhat natural for what they’re trying to do, or it just feels like nonsense and you wind up having to ignore most of the animation and focus only on the amount of time between the swing and the hit. Also agree on the problem with flurry rush and parrying. Even at a simple level, the flurry rush just gets boring after a while because it’s always the same thing over and over again, and the parry felt so toned down after Skyward Sword’s OP parry that the flurry just felt like the better option in almost every situation. The heavy+light attack option works really well in my experience because it gives you a lot of influence over one of the most important elements in combat - time. Light attacks let you jab at the enemy while maintaining a better defensive position, allowing you to test how much time you get on an opening, or test an enemy's defenses before committing to a longer assault, where heavy attacks are there for when you know you're ready to hit hard. It thrusts the player into the attack->evade rhythm right from the start and makes it feel natural. At first I wasn't sure about the timing/reversal system because PSO2 uses that timing in its Just Attack system and they're actually removing that feature from the sequel as it ends up being more of a distraction and an arbitrary skill gate, but when you add in the actual, physical reversal of an attack, that changes things a lot. Instead of having just a simple perfect attack mechanic, you'd have a mechanic that could easily work very differently for different enemies and weapons, providing a ton of inventive combat options. :) That stealthy dagger type weapon could also do way more damage on counterattacks or fully exposed weak points to make it effective as a main combat weapon assuming you’re specializing in that style of play. Also, Dante has a move called Dance Macabre that does that baseball bat finisher you described. Overall, I think tying the extra combat mechanics to weapons like this is a great alternative to giving the moves to Link. Applying all these changes to enemies, however, is the thing I agree with the most. I hate that high level enemies behave more or less exactly like their bumbling subordinates and really want to see more enemies performing competent-looking attack animations like Thunderblight and Maz did. Those attack animations are the main reason why they’re fan favorites, because they feel like competent opponents. They could create incredibly diverse variations in the basic enemy types with these changes, making the battlefield a far more interesting place. :) There’s other stuff they need to adjust in the game but this comment is TLDR as it is. XD

this is some very quality stuff. great video!

Im impressed. Good job

Why don't you make more videos i love your video

Canceled

So uhm, there's this thing called z80 assembly and uhm it's a bit faster... TI-BASIC is kind of retarded, and it's still some form of BASIC, which means it's slow as heck. z80 assembly on the other hand is a type of assembly language and a pretty decent one (considering subleq is a thing). assembly is much faster than basic because it's basically the language of the processor, so very little is lost in translation, but you will need to code on a computer, because you do not want to type something like this in your calculator: 20 0c fd 20 ed fd c9 b1 f0 f9 60 (this is 6502 assembly and very short, but you get the idea). Then you will be able to work arround memory limitations much easier since you're the one managing memory.

Poketips made one too

Here from the breath of the wild reddit, so glad i did

I know I'm breaking the rules because it is at 69 comments but I wanted to thank you for this awesome program I remember

Absolutely incredible. Your changes would be a very welcome addition to make BOTW much more of an action game. Your ideas really reminded me of games like Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance and Doom Eternal, specifically in terms of light and strong attacks (MGRR), and weapon usage (DE). The crafting weapon idea sounds amazing, as I thought of several ideas from just that alone! Keep up the incredible work!

What how do you put images I'm new at ti-basic and want to make some characters talking with images but I don't know how to do it :/

How do you program it I don’t wanna download it

this video is way too long. I love the premise but holy fuck man an hour?