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Hebrews 12:18-24: Mount Sinai and Mount Zion, Part 1
Our discussion connects this section with the previous section, and especially with the author's implicit criticism of Esau as immoral and irreligious. We also focus on the missing elements in his description of the making of the covenant at Sinai -- that there is no mention of Sinai itself, no mention of God, and only one mention of the mountain. By this, the author is using the theophany at Sinai as representative of the Mosaic covenant as a whole. But through it, he also emphasizes that in the Mosaic covenant, God is unapproachable and even his presence is ambiguous, and that Sinai is much more an occasion for dread than it is of revelation.
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Hebrews 12:14-17, Part 2: Immoral or Irreligious Like Esau
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We briefly examine the author's injunctions in Hebrews 12:15 (that "no one fail to obtain the grace of God" and "no 'root of bitterness'" define the many) and relate them to the striving for peace and holiness, as well as to the view that, by striving for peace and holiness, we are conveying an image of our Lord in the world. Most of the session focuses on Esau and his immorality or irreligiosi...
Hebrews 12:14-17, Part 1: Striving for Peace and Holiness
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We examine the author's exhortation in Hebrews 14-17, and particularly: - What he means by peace and holiness. - Given that God is holy, the meaning of holiness for us. - The significance of a disciple having peace and holiness, which allows him or her to be a conduit of God's grace and an image of Christ in the world. - With his reference to "the root of bitterness" (Hebrews 12:15), which is t...
The Patristic Fathers: St. Basil the Great
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After a general assessment of his influence, including his role as father of cenobitic monasticism (monasticism in a community, as opposed to solitary monasticism), his skill as a political operator, and his talent as a polemicist, we focus on his work On the Holy Spirit, the earliest work devoted to the Holy Spirit. The discussion of On the Holy Spirit focuses on: - His focus on prepositions (...
Hebrews 12:5-13: The Discipline of the Father
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Having stressed that his audience has not yet faced martyrdom (which he implies is a real possibility), the author turns to the question of suffering and God's discipline. In part, the author is examining the issue of theodicy why does an omnipotent God allow suffering although he implicitly examines it within the restricted context of persecution. The discussion includes: - What does the autho...
Hebrews 12:1-5: Jesus the Pioneer and Perfecter of Our Faith, Part 2
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This session examines Hebrews 12:1-5 as a model for the Christian journey that begins with commitment to Christ up to the end of one's life, which includes death as a martyr for the faith. We can do this by "looking to Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of our faith" (Hebrews 12:2). Much of the discussion centers on what this means.
The Patristic Fathers: St. Ephrem the Syrian
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We briefly discuss the life of St. Ephrem the Syrian, and especially his flight from Nisbis once it had been ceded to Persia to Edessa in the Roman Empire. The bulk of our discussion focuses on The Pearl: Seven Hymns on the Faith and Three Hymns Concerning the Faith. The discussion includes the following: - What is "prying," and why does St. Ephrem condemn it so passionately? - His focus on cre...
Hebrews 12:1-4: Jesus the Pioneer and Perfecter of Our Faith, Part 1
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Our discussion focuses on: - Chapter 12 as a continuation of the "faith hall of fame" in Chapter 11, as we move from the heroes of the faith to Jesus as the supreme exemplar of the faith. - The author's focus on the cloud of witnesses, who are active participants in our journey. - The meaning of "burden" and "sin" in the context of the author's argument ("let us also lay aside every weight and ...
The Patristic Fathers: St. Aphrahat the Sage
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We focus on the work of a little-known Persian father, St. Aphrahat the Sage, who lived outside the boundaries of the Roman Empiure. We discuss six of his 23 Demonstrations: - Demonstration on Wars: Directed against the persecutions of Shapur II, Aphrahat sees God (and an angelic presence) at work in the world through the overshadowing and anointed (e.g., Kings David and Solomon) and the oversh...
Hebrews Chapters 1-11 Review, Part 5
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Our final review session covers the following topics: - The author's meaning when he says the tabernacle is "a copy and shadow of the heavenly sanctuary" (Hebrews 8:5). - The author's shifting focus from worship to law and covenant. - How do we know that Jesus is the mediator of a new covenant (Hebrews 8:6)? - The implications of Jeremiah's prophecy that God's law will be written in the hearts ...
Hebrews Chapters 1-11 Review, Part 4
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This review session discusses: - The meaning of Hebrews 6:1 ("Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrines of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, with instruction about ablutions, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.") has sparked considerable debate. We discuss what "repenta...
The Patristic Fathers: St. Athanasius of Alexandria
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We briefly discuss the life of St. Athanasius and largely focus on his work, On the Incarnation, which was written before the Council of Nicaea. Our discussion focuses on: - St. Athanasius' focus on truth, doctrinal precision, and a refusal to compromise, which resulted in his persecution as reflected in periods of exile. - His emphasis on human free will and the inadequacy of repentance alone ...
Hebrews Chapters 1-11 Review, Part 3
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We begin with an apologetic framework for approaching some of the issues raised by Hebrews, including its dating (before or after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem we believe before) and whether a priest is needed or, because Jesus is our high priest, God can be approached directly (we argue that the author's focus is liturgical worship, which requires a priest). We also examine the hi...
Hebrews Chapters 1-11 Review, Part 2
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As we continue our review of the first eleven chapters of the Letter to the Hebrews: - We conclude our discussion of the High Christology of the author. - We examine the evidence for dating the letter either before the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD (which is our position, especially since it is something the author would have noted as proof of his argument) or after the destru...
The Patristic Fathers: Eusebius of Caesarea
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In this session, we discuss Eusebius letter to his diocese, as well as his Life of Constantine. The discussion focuses on: - Eusebius' enormous contribution to our knowledge of the ante-Nicene church through his work as the first church historian. As a primarily narrative historian, he incorporated writings in his work that have since been lost. - His desire for unity at the expense of doctrina...
The Patristic Fathers: Lactantius
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The Patristic Fathers: Lactantius
Hebrews Chapters 1-11 Review, Part 1
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Hebrews Chapters 1-11 Review, Part 1
Hebrews 11: Summary of the Faith Chapter
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Hebrews 11: Summary of the Faith Chapter
Hebrews 11:35-40: Other Heroes of the Faith, Part 2
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Hebrews 11:35-40: Other Heroes of the Faith, Part 2
Hebrews 11:32-35: Other Heroes of the Faith, Part 1
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Hebrews 11:32-35: Other Heroes of the Faith, Part 1
Hebrews 11:23-26: The Faith of Moses
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Hebrews 11:23-26: The Faith of Moses
Hebrews 11:17-22: The Faith of the Patriarchs
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Hebrews 11:17-22: The Faith of the Patriarchs
The Patristic Fathers: St. Methodius of Olympus
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The Patristic Fathers: St. Methodius of Olympus
Hebrews 11:13-16: Sojourners and Aliens
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Hebrews 11:13-16: Sojourners and Aliens
The Patristic Fathers: St. Dionysius of Alexandra
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The Patristic Fathers: St. Dionysius of Alexandra
Hebrews 11:8-12: The Faith of Abraham and Sarah
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Hebrews 11:8-12: The Faith of Abraham and Sarah
The Patristic Fathers: Origen on the Lord's Prayer
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The Patristic Fathers: Origen on the Lord's Prayer
The Patristic Fathers: St. Clement of Alexandria
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The Patristic Fathers: St. Clement of Alexandria
Hebrews 11:4-7: Abel, Enoch, and Noah
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Hebrews 11:4-7: Abel, Enoch, and Noah
The Patristic Fathers: St. Hippolytus of Rome
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The Patristic Fathers: St. Hippolytus of Rome

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  • @richardkremers
    @richardkremers 2 дня назад

    he's called "the great", when the original apostles were humble???

  • @JH_Phillips
    @JH_Phillips 5 месяцев назад

    What books would you recommend that take this approach to the Oliver Discourse?

    • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
      @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 4 месяца назад

      Hi @JH_Phillips. Two books that provide a really good starting point are Carl E. Olson, Will Catholics Be Left Behind? (Ignatius Press, 2003). and David B. Currie, Rapture: The End-Times Error that Leaves the Bible Behind.

  • @JH_Phillips
    @JH_Phillips 8 месяцев назад

    Love Origen.

  • @JH_Phillips
    @JH_Phillips 8 месяцев назад

    I just found your channel and I’ve been going through your Olivet Discourse series. I’m so thankful for you all!

  • @MandMe91
    @MandMe91 Год назад

    Read verse 15 again...Were you ever part of "the first covenant" and have you "committed transgressions under the first covenant"?...if not you dont qualify for the new covenant redemption. Ask yourself "who was the Book of the HEBREWS written to/about? Are you a Hebrew? If not stop applying it to yourself. You're welcome

  • @janaealexandra
    @janaealexandra 2 года назад

    Wonderful!

  • @janaealexandra
    @janaealexandra 2 года назад

    Great class!

  • @janaealexandra
    @janaealexandra 2 года назад

    Great video! Thanks for posting.

    • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
      @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 2 года назад

      Thank you, @Janae. I hope that you found it informative and that it cleared up some of the confusion about Critical Race Theory.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    The class discusses a RUclips video by John MacArthur that defends slavery. The video is found at ruclips.net/video/HSKj3LQilcI/видео.html. It provides eloquent testimony to the fact that racism is alive and well in the white Christian church.

  • @janaealexandra
    @janaealexandra 3 года назад

    Very good class!

  • @tmcge3325
    @tmcge3325 3 года назад

    I suggest people watching this video and searching and wanting the truth....Pick up the Book, start from page 1 and read. You do not have to read everything at once but read and study to learn the truth. Messiah comes but once, he tells us that, Paul tells us, all the Prophets tell us exactly the same thing and when is that? The Last Day, the End and we that endure to the end will see him "all" eyes are on him when he returns with his mighty angels (reapers) for vengeance first, then his harvest and Judgement. Matthew 13:24-30 kjv John 6:39-40, 44 and 54 kjv 2 Thess Chapter 1 and 2 kjv Same as the Book of Isaiah Same as the Book if Zechariah Same as the Book of Revelation Book of Ruth Don't fall for the deceit....pick up the book and read!

    • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
      @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

      I get the sense from your comment, @T McGe, that you think the video defends the rapture and the notion that Christ comes before the final judgment to whisk believers away. The video, though, is a critique of the rapture, not a defense. The rapture strongly contradicts Catholic (as well as all pre-Reformation and even much Reformation) eschatology.

    • @tmcge3325
      @tmcge3325 3 года назад

      @@sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 no problem, I am only giving scripture in hopes people will open the book and read. We all need to read, study and pray more than ever before. Amen and Peace

    • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
      @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

      @T McGe. I agree -- we should all both read and study Sacred Scripture. Thanks for stressing that. Blessings.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    The Eucharist playlist on the SJV Kirkland Adult Faith Formation channel is available at ruclips.net/p/PLvTC9HYXiC6BypdUUu20YMSnNqztphX6-.

  • @wiserthanserpents3862
    @wiserthanserpents3862 3 года назад

    And suddenly shall the sown places appear unsown, the full storehouses shall suddenly be found empty: "2 Ezra Ch 6 v 22 (the final 3 days). Humanities final choice when the fast is imposed.

  • @Ryan_Zell
    @Ryan_Zell 3 года назад

    The Three Heresies Found in the New Testament The Judaizers Requiring Gentiles to be Circumciszed (Acts 15) Justification by Faith Alone (James 1 and 2) The Early Heresy of Gnosticism/Dualism (1 John 1:1-2)

    • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
      @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

      Since justification by faith alone is directly related to this video, @Christian Virtue & Grace, would you like to expand your remarks? Incidentally, I began watching your video on dispensationalism at ruclips.net/channel/UC5Xs-BPMp1ZbnOrLTQrMd9g and really like it.

    • @Ryan_Zell
      @Ryan_Zell 3 года назад

      @@sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 Sure. I will expand upon the video. The dispensationalism video was written by Deusimerator and I narrated it.. Just got home, so I will do it in a few minutes in next comment.

    • @Ryan_Zell
      @Ryan_Zell 3 года назад

      @@sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 Everyone is familiar wit the Judaizer heresy which culminates with the first Council of Jerusalem; which we read in Acts 15. What made the requirement of Circumcision a heresy was the fact that it wasn't compatible with the Gospel of Grace. Paul tells those gentile converts that if they seek circumcision, they will be "severed from Christ," see Galatians 5:4. *With that heresy put to rest, another heresy was in its infancy.* There was now some Jewish coverts who were claiming that they were justified by faith only. James addresses these Jewish converts and this belief that they were justified just by Faith Alone/Faith By-Itself/Faith Only. i found this similar to when John the Baptist had told the Pharisees, in Matthew 3:7-10, that they think they are safe because "Abraham is there father." This was the mentality of these Jewish Converts. We get out first hint in James 1:22-24 James 1:22-24 RSV 👉[22] But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.👈🏼 [23] For if any one is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who observes his natural face in a mirror; [24] for he observes himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. There are Hearers and there are DOERS of the Word (Gospel). All of chapter 2 is a contrast between being a DOER or a HEARER. Its important to look at James 2:8-13 specifically to see that 2 important questions are being asked in James 2:14. I sum up both questions into this: CAN FAITH ALONE SAVE YOU? This questions (James 2:14) has an answer in James 2:24. *Everything between 2:15-23 is the SUPPORTING Evidence for the answer given in James 2:24. James 2:24: You see that a man is JUSTIFIED by works and NOT by FAITH ALONE. Once this Epistle hit the newstands, the infant heresy was squashed or was put to death. I have so much more I thiis heresy. Here is just a small sample: James 2:17 KJV Even so FAITH, if it hath not works, is DEAD, BEING ALONE. James 2:17 RSV So FAITH BY-ITSELF, if it has no works, is DEAD. Look at the keywords of James 2:17 KJV: FAITH, DEAD, being ALONE. RSV: FAITH BY-ITSELF is DEAD. Notice anything in the Keywords. FAITH ALONE = DEAD FAITH, just like the demons and the Heterodox possess, see James 2:19. The THIRD Heresy has bits and pieces found in the Epiistles and in Acts. This was the beginning of Gnosticism and Dualism. Matter was evil and spirit was Good. This is why John in 1:1 and elsewhere, tells us that they had touched Jesus, ate with Him, talked with Him so that it would dispell this heresy that there was only the Spirit Jesus in front of them. Here is an interesting fact that it touched upon in your video around the 12 or 13 minute mark: The word Catholic, which means universal. Well by the time of the Last Apostle (John), the heresy of Gnosticism/Dualism was now in full bloom. How did one know if they were in an Apostolic Church, which was teaching and preaching the Apostolic Faith? Well, they looked for the word CATHOLIC in front of the word CHURCH. All they other churches were Gnostic. That is how and why the Church of the Apostles started using the word Catholic. And even today, one looks for the Catholic Church to receive the sacraments and not denomiantions or cults which teach the heresies created at and after the Reformation. I have plenty of videos on this subject. Blessings Ryan Zell

    • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
      @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

      Thank you so much for your detailed response, Ryan, and blessings to you as well.

    • @Ryan_Zell
      @Ryan_Zell 3 года назад

      @@sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 Thank you so much, brother. Where are you at. I'm in WPB Florida and also in the Raleigh area as well. Reitred and I split it up 6/6 months in each place.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    "Are Catholics Considered Christians" is found at ruclips.net/video/m3mWT93YpKQ/видео.html.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    The Council of Trent's decree on justification is available at www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/trent/sixth-session.htm. It remains one of the best treatments of the Catholic Church's understanding of justification.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    The recommended assignment for this session is a RUclips video by Dr. Brant Pitre, "Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist," at ruclips.net/video/P45BHDRA7pU/видео.html. Dr. Pitre has also written an outstanding book, Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper, that is well worth reading.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    This video mentions a RUclips video by Dr. Brant Pitre, Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist. You can watch it at ruclips.net/video/P45BHDRA7pU/видео.html. Dr. Pitre has also written an outstanding book, Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    For flooding and the superfund sites, see komonews.com/news/spotlight-on-america/hundreds-of-toxic-sites-at-risk-for-flooding-which-could-endanger-surrounding-communities.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    The video mentions two videos on Christianity and the coronavirus pandemic. These are: - Did God Cause the Coronavirus? at ruclips.net/video/-6SkEAA8A20/видео.html - What Does "Covered by the Blood of Jesus" Mean?" at ruclips.net/video/txRy77ooAWk/видео.html The complete set of videos is available from the Christianity and the Coronavirus playlist in the St. John Vianney RUclips channel at ruclips.net/p/PLvTC9HYXiC6Ds8Rac15CCx7EQtirp9P9i.

  • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
    @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 3 года назад

    The St. John Vianney channel's Olivet Discourse playlist is available at ruclips.net/p/PLvTC9HYXiC6AdV3F-HAB27g-K8LxkQVai.

  • @TheJimtanker
    @TheJimtanker 4 года назад

    There is NO credible evidence to support ANY supernatural claims in the bible.

    • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
      @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 4 года назад

      I'm not sure what would count as credible evidence for healings that occurred two thousand years ago or earlier, or why you would expect credible evidence. Particularly in the New Testament, 'the healings recorded in the Gospels and Acts occurred at a time when Jesus and the emerging church were obscure. Moreover, many historical events have only a single attestation. So what you're really questioning is whether the Bible is reliable in recounting the healings it records, and presumably especially the healings recorded in Jesus' ministry. I think that there are two issues involved here: the possibility of supernatural healings; and whether Jesus it is likely that Jesus was a healer. Having myself been healed of an undiagnosed foot problem that was severely limiting my mobility at a Catholic charismatic mass, I personally have no doubt that supernatural healings -- that is, healings that are unexpected, sudden, and cannot be explained by modern science -- do indeed happen. The Vatican investigates claims of supernatural healings using very stringent criteria that no doubt rejects many valid miracles, and yet some remain. Given that supernatural healings do occur, the question then becomes whether they occurred in Jesus' ministry. If we examine St. Matthew's Gospel (the most Jewish of the Gospels) carefully, we see that Jesus' ministry expressed enormous continuity with the ministries of Jewish holy men; Jesus' ministry typically drew on very traditional elements in Judaism, yet typically drew radically different conclusions from them. One of the aspects of the ministries of many Jewish holy men was healing; and indeed, Jesus ministry followed that pattern by including teaching, healing, and prophecy. That Jesus was an unorthodox teacher is, I think, indisputable. That he was a reliable prophet is, from my point of view, indisputable as well; he foretold the destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D., for example. The combination of teaching and prophecy suggests that healing was indeed part of Jesus' ministry, and that healings did indeed occur. So I would argue that the healings did indeed occur, even if there is no independent attestation for them.

    • @TheJimtanker
      @TheJimtanker 4 года назад

      John Vianney “Supernatural” healings DO NOT occur. Please provide me with one VERIFIED instance of this occurring and I will apologize and tell you that you were right.

  • @theoskeptomai2535
    @theoskeptomai2535 4 года назад

    I disagree. And here is why. There is _but one_ claim that the position of atheism regards. And that is the 'theistic' claim that "God(s) exists." Like all claims to truth, this claim breaks down on three dichotomous axes: *_truth_* of the claim; *_acknowledgement_* of the claim; and *_sufficiency of knowledge_* as to the claim. The first dichotomous axis addresses the truth _position._ Like any claim to truth, the 'theistic' claim is either true or _not_ true (false). There is no middle ground. The second dichotomous axis addresses the acknowledgement _position._ The recipient evaluating the claim either acknowledges the claim as true (theism), or does _not_ acknowledge the claim as true (atheism). Again, there is no middle ground. The third dichotomous axis addresses the _sufficiency of knowledge_ as to the claim _position._ Either the recipient evaluating the claim has sufficient knowledge or information as to the truth of the claim (gnostism), or does _not_ have sufficient knowledge or information concerning the claim (agnosticism). The default 'acknowledgement' position on the claim that "god(s) exists" is _atheism_ for this is the position the recipient begins with _prior_ to hearing the claim for the first time. It would be impractical to acknowledge the truth of a claim _before_ hearing it for the first time. The default position addressing 'sufficiency of knowledge or information' is _agnosticism_ for this is the position the recipient begins with _prior_ to hearing the claim. One can not claim to have sufficient knowledge or information concerning a given claim _until_ he or she hears the claim for the first time. This presents four populations of recipients evaluating the claim that "god(s) exists." The 'gnostic theist' claims to have sufficient knowledge or information to justify changing their position from atheism (default) to theism by acknowledging the claim. Often this population claims to acquire "sufficient knowledge" from revelation from or personal relationship with the deity mentioned in the claim. The 'gnostic atheist' claims to have sufficient knowledge or information to justify remaining in the position of atheism (default) by _rejecting to acknowledge_ the claim. This population is sometimes referred to as 'strong atheists'. This population may or may not make the additional claim "god(s) don't exist." If so, like the theists in the original claim, those that make such a claim now encumber a burden of proof to substantiate such claim with evidence. The 'agnostic theist' claims to _not_ have sufficient knowledge or information to justify changing their position from atheism (default) by does so _anyways_ by acknowledging the truth of the claim _through_ 'faith'. And last, the 'agnostic atheist' claims to _not_ have sufficient knowledge or information to justify changing their initial position of atheism so they _continue to suspend acknowleging the truth of the claim until sufficent evidence is presented._ Of the four populations, only the 'agnostic atheists' are *_justified_* in their final positions. The agnostic atheist is justified in suspending such acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced, and therefore remain atheist. This is how I can demonstrate that I am indeed an atheist - an agnostic atheist.

    • @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221
      @sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 4 года назад

      Thank you for your thoughtful analysis, Theo Skeptomai. I admit that the analysis of atheism and agnosticism in this video has given short shrift to agnosticism, and that although I still see agnosticism as sharply differentiated from atheism, at the same time I also like your four populations of recipients; in fact, the category of agnostic theist offers a good deal of explanatory power. I would question, though, the notion that atheism represents a default position. As a former atheist myself (I was a gnostic atheist based on your categorization), I would have found your analysis very compelling. But it assumes an individual capable of rational thought who, based on an analysis of available evidence, is able to draw a conclusion that places him or her in one of four categories. The problem is that we are not free agents in that way; we typically don't start out with a conscious default position of agnosticism, and we also typically don't necessarily draw conclusions based purely on logic. I think that there are three real-world processes that mitigate against this assumption: family tradition, culture, and experience. In terms of family tradition, atheism (in this case, gnostic atheism in your categorization) is commonly passed on from parents to their children. Similarly, belief in God (in the past, gnostic theism based on your categorization, and in our own time, some mixture of gnostic theism and agnostic theism) is also typically passed on from parents to their children. In my own case, I've found that on my journey, I've been drawn back to my family's long tradition of Catholicism and of service to God (something I would never have expected). Most cultures are profoundly theist, and American culture is no exception. American culture is profoundly Protestant and, more recently, profoundly evangelical fundamentalist. As an atheist, I was always annoyed by what I thought was the default Christianity of American culture, which seemed to me to be unquestioned by most. As a Catholic, I find the default Protestantism (and now the default evangelical fundamentalism) of white American culture annoying. Finally, experience often underlies what we would like to think is a rational decision-making process. This is particularly true of Christians and former Christians. As disciples of Christ, we are called on to imitate Christ in our lives,, and the institutional church is similarly called on to imitate Christ. We often fall very short of that, and often our failures cause very real damage to others. As a result, the atheism or the particular kind of theism we embrace is often highly emotional. We commit a logical fallacy (though an understandable one) by drawing conclusions about the existence of God based on the bad behavior of Christians or on the abuses of the church. In my own case, for example, although I could have provided ample philosophical justification for the non-existence of God, my underlying motivation was really my own feeling of rejection and my observations of hypocrisy in the pre-Vatican II Catholic church.

    • @theoskeptomai2535
      @theoskeptomai2535 4 года назад

      @@sjvkirklandadultfaithforma8221 First, I want to thank you for your reply. It honestly is one of the most heartfelt, honest, thoughtful, rational replies I've ever received. And you explain your view in a respectful and cordial manner. I will respond more after dinner. But I had to express my gratitude in your insight and demeanor. You have gained my respect. Peace.

  • @raleigh6589
    @raleigh6589 4 года назад

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  • @janaealexandra
    @janaealexandra 4 года назад

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