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hey im def not saying there isn't people who aren't babies when scott did his experiment, he did have two games that could of been won if someone didn't go next. its just the community tends to believe people unironically load into a match to just go next on half the roster. spirit for instance does have a accessibility issue as she relies on sound for her entire counterplay. not everyone is gonna have that issue though.

No i agree fun is subjective, id love to just see bhvr change up something to just help with it though yknow and im glad your enjoying the game c:

they mostly play in a bubble, comp 1v1's to people who just don't know what their mmr is and get a couple of bad matches in a row more information would be amazing

I just don't spend blood points to level them, i have legacy and have played since the games launch. if pop and pain res are not the meta (which it is currently) what is then please do tell? and i'll make sure to tell my random team-mates to just not go down im sure that'll work :D

pain res, pop, corrupt, grim embrace, deadlock, dead man's switch, no way out . i get 4 of these perks in EVERY.SINGLE.MATCH. so yes i also go next very often and i wont stop until these perks are not meta anymore and when the mmr system gets either removed or improved

@@s0cKi1 so you'd say you go next because of the stale meta, which is exactly why i defend people going next ^^

@@jamestercool4412 yep pretty much, as a solo queue player i used to hate people going next but i inevitably got ultra bored from the same perks every match and started doing it and accepting it. Sometimes i feel like im playing the same dbd match for 3-4 hours straight with slightly alternating killer powers. so basically i agree with the entire video

@@s0cKi1 i mean most killer powers are just slightly different ones from another lmao, perks are what used to make it feel different. like im sure it sucks for killer as well but one sides perks do a LOT more handholding than the other imo as they were DESIGNED that way so again just something bhvr needs to tackle

I just think that the game CURRENTLY has too many bugs/too many issues with balancing to punish players going next :/

no see i agree with you here, i want to bridge the game between swf and soloQ. and stupid shit like that is why, the fact people can just load into a match and do that is stupid i completely agree. next time that happens know that gen in that room is always not worth checking and if they just sit in that spot you have a 3v1 in the future. on another note SLOWDOWNS are dumb BECAUSE we balance around in with bandaids instead of giving killers a system to slow the game down - like when you hook someone ALL gens lose 5%. im not saying slowdown shouldn't be a thing, im saying slowdown does way to much cause its been a bandaid for a bigger issue.

never said that. i don't wanna get a low mmr killer, im saying i shouldn't be REQUIRED to have 4 people at my skill level ALL of us needing to bring the best stuff and play amazingly to even have a CHANCE of winning against certain killers (blight nurse billy) or against slowdown stacking, thats my bad and i should of clarified that in the vid

@@jamestercool4412 So you think you shouldn't have to try to win against an experienced killer because? Why exactly? You dont wanna have to try to win? You named the top three killers lmao, yeah I get not wanting every match to be a sweatdick but if you think leaving is a fix idk to tell you. Gameplay equivalent of putting duct tape on a leaky pipe. The Killer also wants to win man, its a part of the game. I play Rainbow Six Siege ranked, I hate going against clash but guess what? Thats part of playing a PVP Game. Do you drive in the shoulder because you dont wait for traffic?

im not even salty dawg ;a; but yes removing the dc penalty would just help a lot but i know they wont ever do that xD

1. Remove DC penalty. 2. DC over any little inconvenience. 3. Say Jamester's argument doesn't matter because "he's salty." 4. Profit.

@@danielmaster8776 huh?

It sucks too because the only way to counter when a decent killer brings four slowdown perks is to bring super stacked toolboxes or get lucky with a huge map. I hope at some point in the future they nerf tf outta tool boxes and then simultaneously make it so killers can only bring two regression perks max.

@@thatfishguy4991 but its completely fine as "BoTh SiDeS sWeAt" dawg its three am and i just wanna vibe with my buddy as we watch something stupid between matches like anime or sonic boom of all fucking things

​@@thatfishguy4991You don't need gen speed-up to beat gen defence. Deja Vu is a go-to/auto-include for me, but gen efficiency alone is enough to carry even the most mid teams.

its only a 50/50 when people BOTH bring the sweatiest stuff which is what people are tired of

@jamestercool4412 The game showers you with bloodpoints so that's one of the reasons. MMR conditioned players into certain "win at all cost" mentality.

yesh, its a pretty chill game, strinova is what its called

i don't agree with the statement of "dbds players are just bad" you shouldn't need a thousand hours to be considered good so ehhh but hey if your enjoying it im glad

​@@jamestercool4412The DBD Players are really Bad, But it's not their fault by anymeans, it's just nobody is playing the game correctly lol

@@TheTrial-np9qy how can they? they continue nerfing things that no one asked for and making maps near useless while leaving the game up

​@@jamestercool4412Do you think DBD is a slug battle simulator ?

okay bet, lets take what you said as truth even though its not true. you will NOT get a SWF every game especially a 4-man SWF. how many of those SwFS only load into the match to ONLY do gens and get out? nearly none. This is cope, and no one who has a ton of hours will take this seriously.

@jamestercool4412 I can see why you're being defensive. The comments are not that great. But if you're going to State your opinion we will state ours as well. It is okay not to be at the very top of mmr. And it's not your fault for thinking you might be. I like your video and you had a lot of good points but some things are just not true. Also I'm sure your Survivor MMR is high. But that is not carried around for every killer you play.

@@killerstreak1994 so im gonna edit this cause i see you play trapper checked a video of you playing on forgotten ruins against what seemed to be babies so i don't know you tell me. maybe you finally hit mid mmr proceeded to think every survivors a god cause they won't step into your traps? i don't know, i can't see a invisible number. MMR is a joke has been a joke, if YOU can call yourself the TOP 30 trapper and then play against babies why are we even using mmr as a discussion point? so which is it? are you the top 30 trapper going against babies making mmr invalid or is mmr really that important?

@@jamestercool4412 not that it matters in the slightest but I am number 17 on the leaderboard for Trapper and you can easily check this yourself with the smallest amount of Google searching. And that map happens to be a map that I have never lost on since it came to the game. He is a knowledge based killer. And I have studied every map intensely for trapper. So yes I win a lot, this does not necessarily mean I am better than the survivors I go against but it does mean that I will win the 4Vs1 most of the time. Replying with so much emotion and frustration is not what I was after, a simple disagreement that the survivors you face are not as good as the survivors top players for the respective killers face in a regular basis. And I think that is the problem with this game when two people have a disagreement they have to have a pissing contest and it's not necessary at all. We can agree to disagree

@@killerstreak1994 i've not been having a pissing content with you, all you've done is just prove my point that killer is easy good job.

sadly people will get annoyed no matter what. i try and run meme builds on killers and if i let people out i still get bmed xd in a game where some players will hold a grudge for a completely dif match who knows :/

i feel like it'd last a week then die D:

i do think the game needed balancing changes, but after nerfing dead-hard they also then turbo buffed every killer stat that they could think of - faster hit cool-down, longer gen times, speed burst after hit reduced, gens cannot be tapped (fair) which was just kinda over kill lmao

@@jamestercool4412 Balancing changes are a single line of code, if the devs are smart anyway. I know this wasn't and still isn't the case for the DbD devs, but anything that was outright broken in the old 1.6.X and etc builds of DbD could've been fixed within a single day. It was mostly changing numbers around or making it so one add-on can't override another one. My point is that old DbD was simply better and that the longer a game or series goes on for the worse and more diluted it gets. This can be seen with almost any other game, be it Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty or Need for Speed. Add to that that any sort of actual community within the game itself is gone and that DbD's playerbase is mostly zoomers now, who think YT DbD is what actual DbD is and how it should be played. Like watching trolling montages or trickshot comps back in the day and thinking that's how MW2 is played.

I agree a lot with this stance.. they have certain creators in a role like that. its why we got shoulder the burden it just wasn't thought of properly as it barley does its job and only hurts weaker killers. don't worry i can't wait to by feng cat girl for 35 dollars

well glad i could give you that xD

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Players going next is never going to be solved unless the games made enjoyable. a stale meta and tunneling to win most matches are not going to help with that.

@@jamestercool4412 bp penalty for giving up on hook may help, but i think option to kill yourself on hook should be gone with unhooking chances, thsts just pure random. That way perks around selfunhook can be reworked(deli should stay only selfunhook option) and "go next" guys will be eating dc penalties untill perma ban or very high amounts of time. I mean penalty for dc basicaly doesnt exist right now. I mean i played bunch of online games and leavers are punished hard across those.

@@mr_trufel9228 I just published a video on why going next can't truly be punished, which the Tl;DR for it is people who don't wanna play will start just doing gens until the killer kills them and bp's aren't enough either.. maybe more shards for the more games you finish?

Using VHS as a example isn't a good idea as its now a dead game, a lot of people don't understand players don't want a competitive horror game. people want a horror party game as evident by people constantly going next. maybe for me since i've played since the start it is to easy for me personally, thats why i wanna make these videos to have discussions. maybe a strong push to make survivors work together better IS what the game needs. its just again toxicity ruins that as one person might be able to abuse that and ruin games :/ but again we need NEW systems

I don't, killer is just easy with 7-8 years of experience don't know what to tell you. slight edit as well, killer WAS hard before the huge buffs and dead hard nerf but i don't want that reverted.

@@jamestercool4412like I said go back and read you play at a low MMR playing killer is a pain in the ass as well it goes both ways my G I play both sides equally stop being ones sided and you kinda validated yourself admitting you don’t play killer and that’s the problem you don’t play it so your MMR is low by default

@@jamestercool4412and also at high MMR gens fly like hell 😂dude for the love of god just play killer consistently to figure it out yourself because idk where get this information from killer is easy but you’re mad tripping lol 😂 if anything playing killer actually takes more skill than survivor remember it’s a 1v4 situation

@@Darkart-BLCK Your telling on yourself.

Pog pfp, and killer is a learning curve for sure! and i don't mind them trying to bridge it for newer players the main issue is for veterans where the game feels so awful o.o people claim its burnout but nah i love playing the game :/

and it sucks, it really does. we need a operation health SO bad

and thats completely fine, SwF is still incredibly strong and will remain until BHVR does something about it without killing soloQ

yeah in-game vc would be a good idea. Then you can nerf surv side because soloq are not heavly hindered by bad cooperation anymore

i threw some suggestions in a previous video to bridge the gap such as a mechanic when the killer gets pallet saved once they become immune to the next pallet save so people cant just go down on pallets constantly

@@jamestercool4412 i'll be brutally honest, this is the last of the problems. The REAL problem is that usually a decent/good pre-made can destroy all killers below S tier just with a perfect macro play (by doing the right generetors, dying in the right place to make killer loose time ecc...). And the fun fuct is that survivors have SO many broken perks that they can abuse that you can't do anything. You hit someone? They go to a safe part of the map and abuse the exhaustion perk. You leave them? They reset at the speed of the light by using either medikit or one of the 20+ healing perk of the game (in SWF is pretty easy to set up a reset). You want to tunnel? Ds/Dh/Otr/syringe/shoulder the burden and other 4/5 perks i actually don''t remember. And there's another unbelivable problem... STRONG KILLER WINS ANYWAY against soloq, that's because they can't and don't abuse ANYTHING of that most of the times. I can easly get a win streack with all high tier killers because survs are BAD, you can easly slash soloq players and that's why the game is killer side 90% of the times... Then you find a decent pre-made that wants to abuse everything (you can beat a pre-made if they don't bring too much shit) and you lose miserably. That's sick

@@salvatoreannunziata4393 issue. you only encounter that team maybe every 1/150 games. and thats me being generous. people don't wanna play that way when your playing with 3 friends unless your trying to do win streaks. but like i said i don't really want killers turbo nerfed i want systems in place so people don't feel the need to play in the most unfun ways its a tough thing however :/

@@salvatoreannunziata4393 The thing is(sorry maybe my comments a little hard to read, not an english speaker) SoloQ need a lot of help, but implementing basekits greatly benefits towards SWF, even mid tier SWF with map offering will be pain in the ass. MMR system not helping the situation, when i was starting on killer i ended up getting surv with like 1000 and more hours over my playtime after a bunch of games against newer players as me. At this point SWF are pretty common thing, like 4-5 per play session. I think QOL changes needed, not game mechanics. Like communication for SoloQ will bring them much much closer to SWF and there Bhvr can balance killers around much stronger SoloQ so killer wouldnt be miserable against SWF and SoloQ can actualy fight back against high tier killers. But one thing will never change for sure - optimization. Killers and survivors will optimize gamplay as much as possible, thats simply human nature and growing popularity of comp not helping at all. Maybe casual anked modes could help with that, but some guys will sweat even in casual.

and i don't want killers nerfed into the ground and i want unfun mechanics removed on both ends :/

both sides are unbearable sometimes. survivors bagging after every match no matter what happened, sand-bagging games. killers slugging for 4 mins, hitting on hook, focusing on one guy the entire match only to talk mad trash at the end of the game. its why i made the video, like someone else said BHVR could fix these issues but still chose not to

Bro you are one of the most delusional survivor main I have ever seen like making shoulder the burden as a base kit is just miserable for killers. If you play in high mmr as killer you would maximum get 2 hooks when the first 2 gens are done and and if you don't tunnel it is a sure 4 man out. Whereas I play both survivor and killer and I genuinely don't like playing killer because it is not fun and sometimes I'm happy even if I atleast get 2 sacrifices, on the other hand playing survivor is not even that bad if they tunnel you just run ds/otr and if you know how to loop well it's easy for us and your squad for sure atleast gets a 3 man out and making shoulder the burden as a base kit without the exposed effect is the funniest shit I've seen and incase if they do make it as a base kit they gotta make corrupt, deadlock and sloppy as base kit like stfu bro

​@@ANTexp if someone says shoulder the burden have to be basekit you already know they are a bot, sable main, who get stuck in walls and solid brushes because they can't even walk straight. They are just those people who wants to win without actually getting better at the game

@@ANTexp The issue is, i shouldn't be forced to get three other people with similar hours to mine to make the game enjoyable, but no shoulder the burden base kit is not a good idea as shoulder the burden only hurts weak killers and makes swfs stronger (even though it barley impacts a game currently)

@@jamestercool4412 if youre playing soloq and killers are tunneling you i feel sorry for you but if you're playing killer and facing a swf the game is definitely survivor sided that round and with ds and otr the game is balanced perfectly fine

@@ANTexp I swear dbd fans will read a comment and think they have to reply in the most inflamatory language imaginable for no reason. Tbh the idea isn't great you're correct just tired of every dbd fan saying "Well swfs would abuse it." or "Nurse/blight would be too strong with this." Like lil bro we get it but the game being fine tuned to only the highest level of both sides is fucking awful for anybody else. Do you know how impossible it is to get any of my friends to play dbd when I have to warn them that if they want to start playing it they have to spend like God knows how long getting targeted and tunneled by every killer they see until they get better. Anyways I never comment on shit because I know it doesn't do anything and people like you will just tear apart the comment instead of suggesting any ideas because you have none of your own and you're trash at the game.

yeah so surv can play hide and seek all the match? Remember that with 1 perk slot of 16 a survivor could reveal all killer's aura perks to their teammates, and this is not even the most controversial part. Who doesn't know a shit about balance should stop talking about it, because 99% you're just asking to bring back problematic and bullshit perks

There is no MMR hell. You reach an MMR and then you sorta just don't go down unless you have a major loss streak. The MMR in this game doesn't reset each time ranks reset (13th of each month) Instead, there are MMR thresholds you reach, and once you're above them you stay there even if you disappear for a long time. Your MMR may go down to the very limit of that threshold over time due to others approaching the same MMR, but it will never drop below without your own action. There are garbage players in all "MMR" zones of this game, and some just got lucky to find some success several times in a row or avoided being the main focus of a killer.

@@DillonMeyer i got Aaraygamer (blight main) the other night and i'll still see the constant "YoUrE jUsT lOw MmR" i wish BHVR would let people see their mmr to clear this stuff up finally. MMR is and has been a flawed system for SO long x.x

It's not pvp tho

god i love loading into a map with zero fucking tiles after my one 50/50 tile is thrown :)

Thats like.. the worst though ngl >.< you do you but. thats even worse than going next i'd argue o.o

maybe not i guess it just depends on what your actually doing idk xD i've done this once just to get a challenge in the tomes though so

i've rarely been playing much other than gacha games ngl

thank you so much! comment made my entire day :)

haha me and you both seem to have very different opinions and i don't mind it

look im dumb sometimes okay, luckily i can come back to this and try again xd

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