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@@TheMotorcycleMessenger We are still running the Shinko's on both bikes (we had some important obligations to tend to this past summer and couldnt ride as much as we wanted to). The rear in 130/90-17 should fit back there. Seams like I remember someone did it already and said it was big but no clearance issues. I would try one back there. I like the D sport tires! Wish they made em in 19" for the front but that's why I am planning on a 18/21 rim swap at some point in the future (more tire choices).

@@TheMotorcycleMessenger In general, I get about 3,000 from a rear tire and about 5,000-6,000 from the front tires. I will normally change my front tire with every other rear tire change (or sooner if needed).

@@MishMashMoto I’m at 3600 miles and the front is still good, but planning on replacing the rear soon. It still got some good tread but it gets a little scary in the mud, and soft sand. Im using the bike mostly off road. Glad they brought this machine to the states. Look forward to see what the bbk plus new clutch will do for ya.

@TheMotorcycleMessenger The BBK and all the other go fast parts really made this thing a little pocket rocket. If it holds up, it will be a perfect little combination IMO. D-Sports are definitely better for more off-road use. Those big meaty lugs on a D-Sport are pretty awesome!

@TheMotorcycleMessenger In your opinion, what is the biggest downside to a DR650? It's about the only 650 I haven't owned or ridden yet (and I figure it's one of the best for a true DS/ADV type bike.

@@redemptiverevelation Thanks and I agree, the installation video is uploading now.

@@roberteddy1951 I dont know if they still make them or not, but they have held up well and are still on both bikes. For longer rides (over 100 miles) they are of great benefit in comfort IMO. Thanks for watching our content!

@@roberteddy1951 I do not know for sure but I figure that an extended one for a CRF150F might be the correct one for the XR150L.

@JTinGA It was a great afternoon to ride. I have 4 different cams to play with now (might take a little while:-)

@DustySteel I have, but never tried it. I did do the zip tie trick on a tubeless Goldwing tire once. It worked pretty good.

@@MishMashMoto the rope technique works great; better than the zip tie technique in my opinion.

@DustySteel Well, now I gotta try it... BTW, even if your OEM crankshaft is junk to you (bad rod bearing or something), hang onto it for me, I would like it for a future R&D project. If you're going to keep it as a spare part, then NBD, but don't trash it.

I've seen it on ATV's or fatter tired bikes, I don't know this small tire would need that but I have watched it done in person and it makes ATV's tires go on easier. Have you done it on a small tire like this? It does work & typically guys out doing a camping trip or long run will carry a rope that can double for that purpose. I didn't know about the "Tire grease" he used ; I've actually seen it done w/ oil but oils can degrade rubber so it's not advised. peace Good Video

@@MishMashMoto I think it’s still in good shape but I haven’t even really looked at it since I did the disassembly. Maybe we could make a trade for it; I’d still like the flywheel lightened if you’re still in?

@traelee7576 I already have a short video on the gloves that I use. The heated gloves are the MSR Surge electric heated gloves. The other ones are the Bilt Storm gloves (not electric heated). I am posting one on the Gerbing heated vest for you now. It should be visible on RUclips by tomorrow. ✌🏼

@@Tarkov. They are worth it IMO

@@MishMashMoto Not in tampa! LOL

@Tarkov. Well, there is always exceptions to the rule. I rode out to Key West about 10 years ago on my Honda NC700X in January. I almost stayed!

@MichaelWhite-cx4ho I appreciate that, Michael. These 150s really are little gems.

@JTinGA I rode off road that day also but somehow lost all the footage. Think my action camera was set to picture mode instead of video mode. Ooh well.

@joegorman3724 Thanks for sharing that story Joe, I like hearing people's life experiences. 👍🏼👍🏼

Have loose fitting outer gloves and tight fitting thin inner ones. Make sure the loose fitting ones are still tight around the wrist.

@RedRideRVT1R Shinko 244 tires with Double Tuff tubes. You can wear some nitrile or latex gloves under your regular gloves and that will help some. Trash bags over your socks will serve the same purpose. I hold my left hand behind the engine while riding sometimes also. Hard to do with the right hand (unless you have a throttle lock or cruise control). I use the engines heat to warm my fingers at remote stops also.

Hippo Hands, or derivatives work pretty well, although, my preference is a Warm N Safe heated jacket liner and Warm N Safe heated gloves. In almost 50 years of riding, and being VERY intolerant of cold, I've found that keeping your CORE temperature up with a heated vest/jacket liner is key. If you keep your core temp up, your body doesn't restrict blood flow to your extremities. When your core temp drops, the body's response is to restrict blood flow to the extremities in order to conserve heat and energy. This make your cold all over, including your hands, legs, feet, etc. Keep your core temp up and the rest stays warm as well. Just a GOOD heated vest or jacket liner will do wonders! But, from my perspective, I'm talking riding for HOURS or DAYS on end, and not just for a short local stint where one can suffer through the discomfort. I don't DO short rides. And for those longer rides, good heated gear is key for comfort and enjoying the ride rather than just enduring it. I've done many 12-16 hour days in sub 40 degree temperatures in complete comfort... Much the same as taking a trip in your car with the heat on... WITH the proper gear. But for me, the heated gloves were a complete game changer, as my hands really suffer when it's cold out (Raynaud's syndrome). I have accumulated many heated garments over the years, but IMO, nothing beats Warm N Safe with a dual remote Heat Troller. It may seem expensive up front, but the benefits for us riders that want to extend our riding season in comfort makes it worth every penny! Pay once, cry once, and smile from then on....

I got some silk glove liners that help a lot.

@@diggy-d8w 01-21-2025 in central Louisiana. South Louisiana got it worse.

@DustySteel Your Welcome! 🤣

@JTinGA Pro and conn both ways. Paper does a better job at filtering particles but can also clog up and block flow easier if maintenance is neglected. Screens are "free" (normally just clean and reinstall them) but only stop the bigger chunks. They also normally allow positive oil flow (even if that oil is contaminated). Personally, I would stick with a screen for internal filtration (especially if it is on the suction side of the oil pump).

You sure made this look easy. It would take me a week to go that far but I appreciate what I've seen here. I know these upgrade kits sell parts in different "Stages" but I don't know why a 3rd stage goes w/ this piston at this time? I mean is it for a more aggressive power generation as opposed to a 2nd stage cam upgrade?? What I've seen is when you do a certain stage you tend to do all the other parts in that stage as well? What I wonder is, can you go over on the Stage & catch up the other parts later? Like a stage 3 cam & then later bring the whole engine up to stage 3 parts? And I'm not sure I fully understand the how/why's to different stages of upgrading. I know it's about more power but IDKnow the general rules to doing upgrades. I'm learning it here/now.... between you & Dusty I'm getting educated. peace

@diggy-d8w Companies like to offer options to their customers. Most people dont understand how compression ratio, valve duration, and lobe centers will affect an engines performance, so they provide a tiered type of "stage" to make it easier to understand. It's best to stick with one company for this type of tiered choice because one companies stage 2 might be drastically different than the next. Basically, it's a good, better, best offering from a given company. They will normally be able to help you taylor your needs by possibly mix matching certain parts. This is normally done via compression ratio, camshaft, intake port diameter, valve size, and what carb. to use.

LOL, We think alike, Ihad missed that one, but just watched yours. I've been there with my videos also. Sometimes, I feel like I could have done things differently or better after a video is released to world. Starting now, I am trying to do a better and more professional job with my videos here on RUclips. Redo your video if your not happy with it, but I liked it and thought it was great.

@MishMashMoto lol! No worries. I’m glad that you liked it! Maybe I’ll keep it and still make a short. I’m going to start scripting my videos and try to make them more like films. The garage cleanup video I’m making I’m trying different angles and ways to try and keep viewer attention. I bought a cheap tripod that has made things easier.

@DustySteel I am doing the same thing (the garage idea stemmed from your actions on yours). My bad knee is still keeping me from doing all the garage work (Backdrop area and whatnot). I got a tripod since the other half of MishMash is busy with some other things right now (she used to do most of the camera work). I got a new action camera and finally figured out how to do the "voice while ridding" part of things, so that will help out a lot! I figure these XR150L's will be a lot of peoples first bikes and since I know mechanics and engines pretty good in general, my personal goal is to leave a "how-to" surrounding the XR150L for all the people out there who wish to learn to do these things on their own. I struggled as a younger person back in the 80's trying to find people that would show me how to do all of these things. It was very frustrating to have the drive but not the knowledge.

@@MishMashMoto from me wanting to make a video on cleaning/ organizing my garage? It definitely sounds like you tore a muscle in your knee which hurts really bad for a long time. Focusing on building the muscle and trying to reduce inflammation is the main thing that helped with my knees. The cold just makes it worse which is why I haven’t made any garage videos yet. I think last night with the wind chill it was -25 degrees out. This morning it was still -7. It’s even colder in the garage with the concrete floor and barely any insulation. I need to get a to get a microphone wind thing to help with the noise while riding. I should probably figure out a helmet mic at some point. Man it’s been a huge blessing having you as my mentor for this bike/build. It’s definitely been hard in a lot of areas in life not having positive mentors so I definitely appreciate the MishMash!!

@DustySteel That's the whole deal. We, as Americans (and all people in general), need to help each other in the ways we can to make things better for everyone! It's normally not that much harder to lend a little help (and maybe some hope). Yes, your garage cleanup and organizing comment gave me the idea to do the same and make a little space for filming future videos (the indoor parts anyway).

@yosemitemotorsportadventur8562 I appreciate You and your channel as well. Love those curvy country roads!

@MishMashMoto Maybe we need a HONDAXR150L reunion in Yosemite! Happy to host you in our home with 360 degree mountain views! I'm actually kind of a adventure motorcycle base camp by word of mouth😅 we love doing it! I'd love to ride your country too.

@yosemitemotorsportadventur8562 Funny you say that, I have been thinking about just such a thing myself for about a year now. I have access to a place in central Louisiana that could be perfect for a yearly gathering of XR150L's. Maybe we need to get this rolling in both locations at different times of the year.

@@MishMashMoto I like it! We also just bought an RV...will travel😅

@yosemitemotorsportadventur8562 I got a 30 amp ready for ya.

@diggy-d8w I hope it happens soon for you Diggy. Life is short, and we only get one quarter to play the video game...

@joegorman3724 Hey Joe, 👋🏼 I had a medical issue with my knee that made me take some time off. I did my best to keep the channel alive during that time. I think about you often, hope your doing well and enjoying your custom "SL150".

@@MishMashMoto It's been a cold winter here in West Virginia (it's 5 degrees right now) so I haven't ridden for a while. When the weather breaks I'll be on it. Like you said in the video, it's just a fun bike to ride. We have plenty of twisty roads (both paved and dirt) around here just right for the "SL150". Hope the knee heals up fine. Take care.

@@geraldburmeister9637 There is nothing better than sharing that experience with your loved ones.

@hardrock6261 Glad you liked it.

@BryanBaker-v8j I ordered a Tusk kit with the HD springs for a CRF150R. This thing probably really needs a 5 or 6 spring setup. I think Chimera makes one that will fit these 150s. Sounds like people like the Wiseco clutches a lot. I like their pistons! I've been using their pistons since the late 1980's

@MishMashMoto thanks!! I didn't even think to look at their website. I was so aggravated at the lack of performance from the stock clutch. Their intake and air filter kit was my first mod to my '23 Grom.

@@BryanBaker-v8j You might check TB Parts for a clutch lifter plate also.

@RedRideRVT1R Right! This guy was just doing his thing, I was doing mine, and we didn't bother each other.

Not had a hog do that yet but deer here in the Western North Carolina are the worst to come outta nowhere.

@williamjarvis3473 Yep, they are a real danger for riders!

@diggy-d8w The CRF150R front end is supposed to be a relatively direct swap. Most CRF150F and CRF150R clutches can be used on the XR150L (I will address this in more detail later but one for a 2012-2017 CRF150F or a 2012-2018 CRF150R should work for replacement parts). Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words... Thanks for watching my little XR150L experiments. My truck needs some new clutch rounds also (4R100 mechanics are welcome to swing by and lend a hand 🤣).

I wish I knew some of them today. I sold all of my dad's lifts(5 indoor & 1 RV/Truck life) and over 200 fully rebuilt tranny's after his death in Beaumont. That was in 2002 & Builder's were incredibly difficult to find & harder to keep in a shop. I recall his Electronic Trans computer tool being about $5k plus additional software inserts. And that was back then when they weren't quite so involved like they are today. I wish for the old trans types, after my dad passed I've never been near the industry again. But I saw lots of stuff, it's part of why I like your stuff & that you give a damn about doing it right. The 150 swap outs I learned from a man off S.Korea or in the Pacific Islands as he's fixed the 150's. You Picture of 1000 Words was getting your clutches right & I liked the Tool you made as a picture in my mind. I'll be waiting to watch whatever you do, it makes a difference..... peace

@diggy-d8w Thanks, Diggy. I try to share helpful info. (and things I think others may find interesting anyway). ✌🏼

Yes Sir, it is intersting

@DustySteel Yeah, it likes to wheelie now! The clutch is holding! Let's see how long it lives... I'm ridding it pretty hard so I may be going inside this engine sooner rather than later.

@MishMashMoto as long as you’re having fun! That’s what matters the most; smiles per gallon.😂

@DustySteel I had a great rip on it yesterday. It's a hoot to ride now!!!

I ride the ever living 💩 out of mine every day. Royal Purple Cycle Max, the friction plate upgrade, and STP Octane booster are all I've done. Any recommendations to get more performance from OEM carb setup​@@MishMashMoto

@BryanBaker-v8j The bike really wants all the air you can give it for more performamce. Not really any easy fixes for that on the stock carb. Most people in other countries upgrade to the PZ27 carb. for more air. I did a PZ30 and liked it. Both cheap options, you will need a new throttle cable if you decide to try one. A 38 pilot and a 110 main jet should work well for most elevations (I liked the 115 better down near sea level). Hope that helped.

Is that a yes or a no?

@stixx3969 There was metal. It's likely that a bearing may fail soon.

@MishMashMoto I got a bone stock XR. Loving it for my gravel road needs. I appreciate your videos and your efforts. I have learned a ton. Please keep posting.

@@MishMashMoto that wasn’t just from the clutch?

@stixx3969 It's a learning curve for me too. It might let go today and might still run for years. If it was an airplane, it would be grounded until the source of the metal was determined, but it's a modified dirt bike running on the ragged edge of its reliability. We know this, and I plan to continue to run it hard and find the week link (with hopes of making that area more reliable). I'm just playing with this bike now to see where the limit is. I probably already found it. 🤣

@edgarbradford No, not yet, but it's very tempting!!! I really hate that Honda didn't give us that kicker as a backup like other countries got. I also understand these were built to a strict price point. If I were designing the XR150L bike again, I would go all LED lighting and add the kick starter back to it (leave the ignition system DC like the USA models are) and some better/larger front forks (like the CRF150L has). Even still, Honda did a fantastic job on the USA model of the XR150L!!!

@MishMashMoto Scooter swap shop as a kit on sale for $119.99. just sayin'

@edgarbradford I will look into that. Thanks! 👍🏼👍🏼

@@Tarkov. TT doesn’t have the super head that MishMash now has so that’s something to consider. A LOT more power than just the 70mm big bore.

@Tarkov. I agree if your talking about cleaning the sludge from the "spinner".

@DustySteel This SX Parts equipped engine makes this tame little engine run more like a KTM 4 stroke engine now. 😁😎😁

@@MishMashMoto I was very happy with that setup and am very excited to see how much more power the 300cc build will have. I’m guessing you’re around 20hp with that head and maybe my setup will be around 30hp.

You got that for a CRF150R correct? I’m thinking that maybe the 6 bolt clutch from a 450r will possibly work in the XR150L stock dampened clutch housing. Any thoughts?

@@DustySteel Yeah a CRF150r, not sure about the 450...the problem with mixing and matching parts online is; no one ever gives dimensions.

@@TinShackVideos from the pictures I’ve seen and from what my 6 bolt racing clutch looks like, I think a 450r clutch without the housing would work. I just keep my stock clutch housing and use the racing 6 bolt. It would definitely be worth testing because like you said, no one posts dimensions.

@TinShackVideos I watched your video last night 👍🏼👍🏼 (Dusty had recommended it to me previously). I ordered a Tusk kit with springs for the 2007-2025 Honda CRF150R. I think the play between the basket and gear is "normal" on these bikes. I did, however, notice that the first clutch disc is different than the other 4, and even the locating tabs were located in a different place than the other 4. I will be making a video about that and a few other little details that I noticed in the next day or two.

@@MishMashMoto So far everything is working well.

@DustySteel Thank you my friend. I will send you that 34mm carb. soon.

@@MishMashMoto you’re welcome buddy. 30MM? No rush! It’s just been too cold lately for me to work in the garage. If we stay here, I need to see about concrete insulation and maybe a propane heater or something. I deleted my previous question/comment because I think the racing clutch that I have just goes inside the basket with the gear. (think that’s what that’s called)

@DustySteel Which carb did you want to use/try? Was it the 30mm PWK carb.? (Think the 30mm carb was in the 34mm box so I probably misspoke there). I like that clutch upgrade you have for yours. It will add lots of clamping force onto the clutch pack. I need to get one for myself but I want to test out the Tusk clutch kit and their HD springs first so we will all know if it can hold up to the power of this SX Parts beast of an engine that has been created. I honestly doubt that any 4 spring kit will hold it, but let's find out...

@MishMashMoto I just reused the 34mm box that I had but I have the 34mm in the garage. ABE says for 300cc and the ADS cam use 30MM PWK for up to 11:1, 32MM up to 13:1+ = 34MM. I would like to try the 30MM for low compression. Whatever you recommend. Maybe less than 11:1? I know before you recommended 11:1. Either way, the 30MM would be awesome if you’re not going to use it.

@DustySteel I am super happy with the PEZ28 and I'm not planning on using the 30mm PWK and I will send it back to you (free of charge) ASAP.

@diggy-d8w I will make a few more videos on this side of the engine. One just pointing out a few important and easily overlooked items and one for all the reinstalling of everything. I am still waiting for the new clutch parts to arrive. The tool is only about $10 on Amazon, and I ordered one (will post a link for it later). I really wanted to get this disassembly video finished up so I just made what I needed to get it done that day. Cheers Diggy.

Take your time & I'm really interested in seeing the new clutch-pack that goes in.... I can't recall if you or Dusty said it was a Racing clutch-pack or just a heavier duty but I'm really looking forward to getting at that info. I was surprised that you burned up the stock plates or they started slipping? They really weren't "burnt" but once they get started losing friction they smooth out & scorch soon after. Anyhoo, the replacement will be an upgrade, right? So you could replace this w/ a Stock Part, a Heavy Duty Part, Race Part, and/or the 150 Dirtbike model Clutch Parts? I'm asking on all these? I'm not sure what exists or what is possible & I'm thinking you will put in a Higher Quality Clutch Assembly. I don't know 1 part from another so I'm guessing what they are called. I'm in the right place to learn, for sure, peace

@diggy-d8w It may really blow your mind when you find out what I tried today (and it worked:-) I added an old used worn out clutch disc from the old 1979 XR185 engine I had laying around 🤣

I amazed that it fit, more amazed that you had it laying around, and I've know different stuff will work but I'd never have thought of that one? No one would have unless like you, just had it laying around. So you took the round clutches and put them back inside your 150 L BASKET? OR did you take the whole Basket & clutch in one piece & it fit into the 150? That would really surprise me if the whole package outta the 185 could be put in the 150 but if the old clutch rings are taken out of the 185 basket & put into the 150's Clutch Basket that would be too kool for skool. I've seen mixed round clutch rings put into car transmissions but they got to be the same size & the 185 must have done it? Mind Blown !

@diggy-d8w I just added 1 old well worn disc from the old XR185 to the stock 150L clutch setup (mainly just to take up space and add some extra spring tension to the clutch pack. Video loading now.

@Tarkov. They sure can be a fight sometimes. I have used the zip tie trick on tubeless motorcycle tires before. It works. Maybe one day, I will get a proper tire changing setup to make things easier.

@@MishMashMoto Zipties might be the way to go if you're changing a flat on the road. The rope trick could be promising but a pack of zip ties are definitely more useful for other purposes.