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ludwiguy51
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Can this Danelectro 12 String deliver the classic Rickenbacker vibe?
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Reviewing the Danelectro 12SDC and comparing it with the Rickenbacker 330/12. Let us know what you think! (Note) As a viewer pointed out, this is not a totally solid body guitar. There are hollow cavities but no F holes to make it obviously a semi-hollow body guitar.
She's My Girl, Original song by Dan Beaty
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For our 12 string fans, this song features my Dean Boca 12 string electric, which I demoed earlier on this channel. Written and performed by Dan Beaty, Recorded at Higher Ground Studio in Columbus, Ohio. Title "She's My Girl," copyright 2006. All rights reserved.
First the Kingdom
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Written by Clement Michael Martin and Dan Beaty. Song produced at Higher Ground Studios in Columbus, Ohio. Special thanks to Roger Legg, of ARK Media for the great video production!
Beginning Bass Guitar, learn to play Sweet Home Alabama
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Learn how to find the notes on your bass, so you can jam with your friends! Play your first song now!
Dean and Rickenbacker 12 String electric review
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My comments on the Dean Boca 12 string electric and the Rickenbacker 330/12 guitar.
Nick Beaty: A Soldier Thing
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Original song by Nick Beaty entitled: "A Soldier Thing"
Nick and Cory Beaty, original instrumental
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Nick and Cory Beaty playing original intrumental song on guitars
Amazing Grace by Nick and Cory Beaty
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Nick and Cory Beaty playing guitars to a version of Amazing Grace to the tune of House of the Rising Sun
The danos are great little guitars-- a bit piercing in the high end, but that is cool if you like that glassy high end
This kind of made me think I should save my money and get the Rickenbacker. It is the 12 string sound I am after.
It is definitely not the jangle quality I like. Lately, I acquired a Hagström DLX12 and although it may be more expensive than the Danelectro, it is still more than half the price of a Rickenbacker and definitely has the same Rick jangle quality as the Rick itself. it may not look the same as a Rick, but the vintage esthetics of this Hagström (think the ES335 shape) still can be a very beautiful alternative for a Rick. I can also recommend the Gretsch G5422G-12 Electromatic and the Guild Starfire I-12 as likewise qualitative and affordable.
It’s a mostly hollow guitar, and Masonite or equivalent as its front and back. I have a 59x12, which has a pair of lipsticks in a sort of humbucker at the bridge which can be split by the volume pot. The neck pickup is a p90, stock, which has a bit of grunge to it. When you use the switch in the middle position you can pair the p90 with either the pair of lipsticks or pull up the pot and pair the p90 with a single lipstick. With all that versatility, I use it in the background of a lot of my home recordings. The front guitar will always be one of the standards, but this becomes my picking, arpeggio or rhythm overdub….
ruclips.net/video/0jSzTAq-Hmk/видео.html This adorable Baby Upright Piano from Toontrack Small Upright EKX can deliver that Classic Abbey Road Vibe.
Yeah it's Semi-Hollow Bodied like the Rickenbacker 12 string.
That Dean is a boat anchor. I could barely lift it. I hated that guitar
I have no problems lifting mine. Are we talking about the same guitar?
Yeah. You're a man, maybe you're strong. I like to keep my guitars under 8 pounds. I never played it because I didn't even want to pick it up when I looked at it@@ludwiguy51
They sound pretty much the same
The 620 Ric is also a sólid body. I have both the 620/12 and a 330/12 . I can hear a big difference between the two, but there's a big difference in price also. I remember them in Sears they had a case with a amp in it. I
No
Considering Rickenbacker is an American company, it's amazing why Americans cant pronounce it! "A" for APPLE! not ARM!! For some reason it's annoying.
Not sure about the Rickenbacker vibe... but my Dano 12 (newer version) is amazing! It remains in tune!!! which is huge for me (especially on a 12). Also love putting it in open tunings.
I have a 59X (same Jimmy Page black finish) with the P90 on the neck and splittable dual lipsticks on the bridge, fun guitar to play. The range of tones on this baby make it an excellent 12 stringer for those on a budget looking to expand their arsenal--recommended.
I totally agree!
It is a great guitar to see. But I say less talk and more play.
The Dean Boca is great for getting that good old fashioned Rickenbacker Vibe because of the hollow body.
My friend tonebender69 was playing the song Turn Turn Turn (To everything there is a season) by Pete Seeger (arranged by the Byrds) on a DanElectro 12 String Guitar & it sounded amazing. I believe these have Lipstick Pickups that are Specially formulated to emulate the sound of Toaster Pickups. Take a listen:ruclips.net/video/2a4ZBnBmjFw/видео.html
I just looked it up to make sure I was correct. Dan electro guitars are semi hollow body guitars meaning they have a little piece of plywood to screw the bridge into and then they have even smaller pieces of plywood to screw the pickup in. Hence the rest is hollow body.
That's what I thought...not solidbody.
I have the same guitar. Pardon me a little but if you do some research you will fine that is a hollow guitar inside. That’s why it has the hollow sound. They also used a metal nut up save money but it’s another thing about this guitar they found it actually gives the guitar a better sustain. So there were several things that they did to make this a budget friendly instrument that turned out to make it really a much different wonderful instrument and its own right. I’ve owned three Rickenbacker‘s 360s they were beautiful guitars, but changing strings was a nightmare. I’m getting better sound out of this guitar because I can get that Rickenbacker sound if I want but using both pick ups or just the neck pick up I get a totally different sound much fuller. Anyway, I see this guitar cut in half and it has this press board but it’s not solid. The guitar is hollow. Thank you for your video and comparison I appreciate it..
I am not sure if the volume change with both pick ups on this something new or whether it’s an issue with that particular guitar. Mine does not change the volume at all.
Thanks for pointing that out. I did not have a lot of time with this guitar. I might have been missing something in the controls.
Boca for me
Waiting for mine. any day now......please mister postman....
Old video but two points to consider ... 1/ The Dean Boca is strung in the conventional 12 string manner. The Rickenbacker is strung differently with the octave pairs of the 1st to 4th strings reversed. This does have an impact on the tone produced by the Rickenbackers. Of course it is possible to to modify the Dean or any other conventional 12 string guitar to be strung like a Rickenbacker ... 2/ The Byrds sound is not solely a function of Jim McGuinn's Rickenbackers. David Crosby's Gretsch Tennesean and Country Gentleman provided the perfect rhythm accompaniment to McGuinn's 12 string.
Great details on this you really explained and played it so well. Thank you and amazing Roger Mcquin sharing bible lyrics with all of us. Thank God the father Jesus the son. and the Holy Spirit...for Roger and for you sharing this informative educational useful video.
I had the 6/12 double neck purple sparkle
It's Ricken BACKER, not Ricken BAHKER
Yes, I have learned that, but habits are hard to break.
Don't forget that the strings are inverted on the Rick. Makes a big difference sound wise, specialy when playing fingerstyle.
If you actually watched the video you would know he made that point at the start of the video.
Would restringing base/tone strings on the Dano to match the Ric 12s, make it more Ric sounding?
It might for some players. I personally do not think the order of the strings is that important to the sound of a Ric. I think I read that Tom Petty actually had his strings changed on his Ric to the standard method. I would first try changing the wiring of the PUPs on the Dano. Maybe go with heavier low E, A, D and G strings. Even different amps, pedals or EQ could help. The greatest difference between the Rick and others is the shape and feel- both to the good or bad depending upon the player.
Makes a BIG difference when playing fingerstyle.
Play more, talk less.
With both pickups they sound really similar. I didn´t expect that. With the single pickups the Dany is far more with high frequencies... I have the Danelectro 12 as addition to a hollowbody 12-string.
The advantage is that you can roll off the highs on the Dano. They cannot be easily added to the Dean with EQ in my opinion.
Nice!
The Dano is missing the mids that the Ric has. I wonder if a Boss GE 7 eq pedal to get those two closer. Has anyone tried that?
I didn't know I would have the guitar around long at the time. Maybe I will experiment with an EQ pedal I have since it is still available to me.
Boss ge7 ? .....it's the ultimate turn polisher. You can get a humbucker close to a single coil in tone.....or you can easily fatten a single coil to sound like a p90....and close to a humbucker....and pretty much everything in between, Best EQ tip ?......always cut to get the sound you want, and only boost if you have to. I don't see them often on pedalboards, and that's a damn shame. Give me an EQ....reverb and chorus and you can do almost anything, ....best and God Bless..
I’d love s twelve string Rick but realistically the Danelectro is more suited to my bank balance 😕
The Danelectro 12 even has that 60s vibe so you can recreate that sound made famous by a lot of bands.
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You could replace the volume and tone pots with push/pull pots to add series/parallel and phase switches, to add many more tones...
Thanks for bringing my attention to this guitar, what did you think of the neck? Is it a good wide neck like the dean Boca? And how do you think they compare between those two?
Good question. It is actually in between the Dean and the Rick. I personally find it easier to chord near the nut with my hands than the Rick.
@@ludwiguy51 cool! Thank you.
Great sounding Dano. I used to have the double neck baritone and six string guitar. Wish I would have kept that. In a pinch it can do Byrds and Petty sounds. Still like Ric 12's but this guitar has a cool factor going, too.
I have the Danelectro 12 string which i've used out at gigs for some Petty/Dylan songs.it's a good inexpensive guitar,i like it a lot but it's no Rick in quality or tone.I'm amazed that *cheap* guitars have risen in such great quality, but where were they back 50 yrs ago when i had a paper route?!!
Very nice sounding guitar. I've seen more than a few of those in home studios. Can't beat them for the price!
The bodies aren’t solid. They are hollow. The strings go through the back and the top to accommodate all of the ball ends.
Hollow, and built out of masonite:-)
At first I did not notice that it was semi-hollow, since there were no f holes. Several years back I did see one with the f holes at a store. Personally I think it helps the sound.
@@janmartens5635 Are you sure they are still made with masonite? I knew about the originals.
Glad to see you back!
These days you can go pick up the Byrds-approved JangleBox pedal, which will turn your Rickenbacker automatically into a compressed, Byrds type sound machine. It will probably help with a non-Rickenbacker electric 12-string, but I'm not sure how much so. It's really designed for Rickenbacker owners, I believe. I think the pedal retails for around $200 or so.
A friend bought the Jangle box, but returned it. I only had the Dean then. The compression was good, but I didn't get the time to fully check it out.
@@ludwiguy51 I see, but any word on why he returned it? I'm not certain if it will impart the Byrds effect on other 12-strings. I don't own a Ricky, I just have a lowly lefty acoustic=electric 12-string I got about two years ago to replace another low-end one I got eight years ago that I had to throw out, because the bridge warped out eventually. I'm having better luck by far with my new one. I'd love a Rickenbacker 360/12 but I cannot swing the $4000 for one, alas. Nor can I justify the expense. I'm a lefty guitarist which is also a major issue. However, I now own two Vox amps (the VX50 being the best I own), so I can squeeze some jangle out of that! I was told by a local guitar shop dealer that Rickenbacker as a company is the WORST and most pretentious, obnoxious and weird company to deal with. I wish someone could manufacture some 12-strings that at least get close to the sound of a Rickenbacker, without infringing on copyright or TM or whatever. But tough luck, I guess. Is the main Ricky 12 string sound mainly coming out of the pickups, per se, or is it the overall design as well?
@@thiscorrosion900 I am not sure why he returned the Jangle Box. Maybe he thought he could get the Rick sound or a better sound out of one of his guitars. The mystique of the Rick sound I think is a combination of things. The single coil pickups, the long scale and the semi- hollow body come together nicely, but it is subjective. There is a certain solid feel that appeals to me as well. OTOH there are some annoying factors about the company too. The first used one I held played wonderfully but I missed the opportunity. The second used one I ordered online from GC had a thick clubby neck. The latest models were the same. I had to call the dealers and have them measure for me until I found this 2008 model that felt more comfortable to me. There is no other way to know when the shape changed that I could tell.
Rickenbacker has much more focused sound... clear, bright and decidedly pointed.
Ricken...."back"er....... not bacher............
Nice tones! What was the amp?
Thanks for the comment! It was a Fender SuperChamp XD on the clean channel with some reverb.
Thank you for this review. Found a used Dean Boca 12 string for 260.00 It's quite clean and I always wanted to have a 12 string since I had an acoustic 12 as a kid. The Dean isn't a Ric of course but it will do for me and your review sure helped. (High five)
Glad the review was helpful. Thanks for commenting!
Both sound amazing Mostly cause of the great playing but may have to check out a 12 string Dean elec ty!
Thanks for the comment!
The difference in scale length probably accounts for most of the sound difference.
Nice descriptions. Thank you.
Flamin' Groovy.
Glad to see the review of the Dean Boca- I’ve always wanted to play an electric 12 string and it good to hear that a value model is still a good quality instrument.
ARE YOU IN STANDARD TUNING OR TUNED DOWN A HALF STEP ?
Standard tuning. Thanks.