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Janice Liedl
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Linking pop culture and history for your edification and amusement. Author and editor for such projects as "Star Wars and History", "The Hobbit and History" and "Game of Thrones and History". Contributor to "Harry Potter and History" and "Twilight and History". Co-organizer of "The Cold War and Entertainment Television" conference to be held at Paris 8 in June, 2014.
Daenerys & the Politics of Gender
The Beggar Queen assesses the prospects for bringing the Second Sons to her cause.
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Daenerys Turns Valar Morghulis Around
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"All men must die, but we are not men."
Varys & Tyrion: Power is a Curious Thing
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Philosophies of power in "Game of Thrones" - this discussion illustrates the importance of belief in maintaining authority as well as the opportunities Tyrion might exploit with Varys' help.
Petyr Baelish & Varys: Chaos is a Ladder
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Philosophies of power in "Game of Thrones" - this exchange reveals one key conception of politics as operating in King's Landing and an interesting counterpart to Machiavelli's idea of Fortune as a river.
Cersei Lannister & Ned Stark: You Win or You Die
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Honour or Power? Game of Thrones, season one - Cersei Lannister refuses Ned Stark's advice to flee the court with her children. This clip was used to illustrate my talk about Machiavelli and history in the series given at the Toronto Renaissance & Reformation Colloquium.
Ned Stark and Robert's Small Council: This Honourable Fool
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Game of thrones first season clip from my presentation at the Toronto Renaissance and Reformation Colloquium: "'Power is a Curious Thing': Game of Thrones as a Machiavellian Mirror for Princes.. Another illustration of the philosophical divide between King Robert and Ned Stark when he resigns from his position as King's Hand and also from the Council.
Ned Stark & Renly Baratheon: Protector of the Realm
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Game of Thrones first season clip from my presentation at the Toronto Renaissance and Reformation Colloquium: "'Power is a Curious Thing': Game of Thrones as a Machiavellian Mirror for Princes. Renly's question appears to be a good challenge: isn't Ned Stark's priority as Protector of the Realm to consider the good of the people and not just what is "honourable"?
Robert Baratheon & Ned Stark: A War is Coming
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An early first season clip from my presentation at the Toronto Renaissance and Reformation Colloquium: "'Power is a Curious Thing': Game of Thrones as a Machiavellian Mirror for Princes.. This illustrates the philosophical divide between King Robert and his old friend, hinging on Ned's concept of honour.
too bad that renly was too ambitious aiming for the crown instead of supporting his older brother, as the greatest power in westeros he could have rule the iron throne without being a king just like tywin did back in the days
Say whatever you want about Ned despite being a honorable fool his consciousness was clean and pure. A perfect example of a man with honor althought his death was fucked.
Speak SENSE to this fool: Varys: "Should the Gods grant Daenerys a son, the realm will bleed." Pycelle: "She should die now, so that ten of thousands might live." Renly: "We should have had them both killed years ago." Littlefinger: "DO NOT FUCK UGLY WOMEN WITH OPEN EYES!!" Varys xDDD
Robert Baratheon is right to killed Daenery Targaryen and Viserys Targaryen in this scene for stablelized the throne to him, but he is wrong to treat Ned Stark as fool because he is the real fool since he didn't know who's real traitors during he's Kingship that's Little Finger, Cersei Lannister and Jaime Lannister.
You’ve never had a best friend you’d call a sibling if you’ve never had an argument this bad 😂
Be careful of the company you keep. Robert was Ned's downfall 😢
I hated Ned for being so naive and so stupid, when he was executed, I was „sorry but you had it coming“ I hate noble people who are too honorable, they should stay in their lane. Playing the game of thrones means that you must be a dishonorable piece of shit who would throw anyone into the sea while keeping an eye on everyone, even the ravens.
If Ned was smart and cunning he would’ve went along with it waited for Robert to inevitably pass away and taken the throne with Jon
Hes not a schemer
Even now I have trouble believing bailish was straight with all that sas 😂
The characters in House of the Dragon are like, retarded compared to these characters.
Honorable fool
Also the fact he didn't tell his wife he didn't cheat on her n have no respect for her n brought the kid in there family to remind her every day of his betrayal n anyone would no n could see bc of that she hated jon n gave him a horrible life etc all bc he cared more about a promise he made to his dying sister then the absolute terrible life that ur causing ur wife. Nephew n kids when any good man would of trusted his wife n told her the truth n that would of made every ones life easier n happier his wife would of embraced jon like her own like she wanted to so bad but bc she thought it was her husband's bastard she treated him worst then the dogs smh im sorry im one of the only ones but i was so happy when ned lost his head bc he was just retarded n in that time period stupid people didn't live long n lived way to long smh also i wonder with how much robert loved his sister whos jons mom n how much love he had for ned i dont think he would of killed jon i dont think he would of killed the woman he loved only child n plus even if he decided to betray her ( i dont think he would he would just make sure his throne n future throne was secured n the other reason was NED he knows if he kills neds nephew it would cost him his best friend his words his brother the person he loved most n besides that he would weakened his own power by alot bc if he loses ned n the north thats huge n besides the armies he is losing the person he trusts i dont think he makes that sacrifice it would be literally retarded n i believe NED knows that so if he is such a great person why would he let everyone he supposedly loves live a lie a lie that causes certain people he loves major pain n major issues i gotta understand this seriously how do yall look at NED like he was this great honorable person n maybe he was to every one else but to the people who should matter the most he purposely cause more pain then 10 red weddings lok seriously his sister asked him to take care of her son his nephew n that means love him teach him etc etc she didn't ask NED hey can u bring him home to your extremely jealous wife n tell her this is ur bastard n that means u been cheating n etc just that alone anyone with a Brain already knows that lil jon specially back then is gonna have a absolutely horrible life inside the house n outside the house just telling people he is a BASTARD back in those days is horrible nobody trusted a bastard they had no future jons life was so bad he went to the wall a few years early i hear lol NED such a good person lol i dont see it u let ur kids n wife n everyone else around ur castle treat ur nephew like a peasant n when unreality he aint no bastard n his kids are literally peasants compared to jon etc etc maybe he hated that his sister n nephew was royalty n he just a northern lol bc even if he didn't tell the world the fact he didn't tell his wife n make her promise u not to say anything n under those circumstances she wouldn't of said anything n just that alone would of gave ur nephew such a better life n for that he is one of the worst people
"Fool" is putting it lightly. Leaving heirs to the previous dynasty alive and in possession of an army is LUNACY.
Bro mentioning fool Visceris as if he was just an optional quest to deal with, he thought so little of the beggar king, lmao
We went from this to... house of the dragon lmao
I have 7 kingdoms to rule, honor doesn't keep them in line, fear does Ned was honorable but really dumb. Robert was real badass that's why he was the king.
Robert Baratheon is alwalysly drunk that's why he can't decide a good thing for the realm 😂 Robert is very wrong to put Little Finger than to he's Brother Stannis, since Robert didn't trusting he's Brother Stannis because Robert know that Stannis is next to him, so if Stannis killed him Stannis will be the new King, but Robert Baratheon forgot that he's real enemy is Little Finger and Cersei Lannister negotiating each other and having a bad plan. Small Council of Robert Baratheon Is 4 Functions 1. Economy 2. Granaries 3. Shipyard 4. Soldiers That's why it's 4 Councilors Person and the King only Command what he wants to he's 4 Councilors.
I love how in the book version, Barristan also stands against murdering them. It shows he's still a Targaryen loyalist deep down
Robert respected eddard, he didn’t like that Ned would challenge him however he realised that he was surrounded by yes men and not loyal men, a true friend will call you out and tell you the truth so even after Ned fell out with the Lannister’s, Robert backed Ned, that’s true brother ship.
Even George Floyd?
God such cringe feminist writing and Hollywood has only gotten worse since then.
baratheon is evil...he wants to kill babies...
This show and the conversations are totally unbelievable, its bullshit, and especially adter season 3 it went to the dustbin totally😂
This scene demonstrates how much Robert loved ned, no one else could speak to him that way and keep his head. Robert always saw Ned as his true brother, the only person he could trust.
If Robert had ever found out the truth about Jon, he would have killed both Jon and Ned.
No he would never kill ned not a chance. He might try to kill jon but ned never@@xaviervega468
I love littlefinger’s advice 😂😂😂😂
Legend has it the whooooore is still pregnant
"I'll have your head on a spike" About that...
Despite all of that Robert loved Ned more than his actual blood brothers.
Well... Robert was always right
He is not alwalysly right, because the traitor after he's death are Petyr Baelish that he choosed to be on he's council even he didn't deserved to be a king councilor, he also not right to marry Cersei but he had no choice if he refused Cersei Lannister the war was not end they need to fight between Lannister and Tyrell in the Kings Landing to take the Throne so the easiest way to be the King for the side of Robert is to Marry to Cersei because that is a proposal of Tywin Lannister to Robert Baratheon to Marry Cersei for unite of the 7 Kingdoms since they are already in the Kings Landing. Robert Baratheon is also not right to choosed Jeoffrey to be the future King of the Kings Landing that he command to Ned Stark, since Jeoffrey is not he's real son, Ned Stark know the truth that Gendry Baratheon is he's real son and having a Rightful claimed after the death of Robert Baratheon. While Stannis and Renly is both selfish to the power they hate each other.
Crazy that almost every word in this scene is ripped straight from the books it was so much better back then
the writers kind of forgot that Varys was ok with killing a child
He became more of a simple good guy in the show. He was much more crafty in the books.
Wow this is really a bestfriend relationship
(clicks on this video) Robert: The *WHOO0O00ORE* is pregnant.
Sucks when you're the only one in 7 kingdoms with morals and honor
I’ve got seven kingdoms to rule, one king seven kingdoms, do you think honor keeps them in line?, do you think honor it’s keeping the peace?, it’s FEAR, FEAR AND BLOOD
I like how Ned has long left the room and King Robert is still arguing and ranting with himself in the background. 🤣
As someone who has never read the books, rewatching these early season scenes makes a lot more sense. So glad he never told Robert about Jon's true heritage.
Oh dhit renly was kinda smart
I wonder what wouldve happened if Ned flew the capital like Renly or left prior to Roberts death like he originally planned.
Everyone looking at Littlefinger like "What the hell does that even mean dude"
Love Ned Stark
Al game of thrones season should be thankful to s1 actors . They’re best at what they do. Credit to them
“OUT. OUT! DAMN YOU, I’M DONE WITH YOU! GO, RUN BACK TO WINTERFELL! I’LL HAVE YOUR HEAD ON A SPIKE! I’LL PUT IT THERE MYSELF, YOU FOOL! YOU THINK YOU’RE TOO GOOD FOR THIS? TOO PROUD AND HONORABLE??! THIS IS A WAR!!!” 😭😭😭 Ohh Bobby B
Ned realizes his childhood friend is a monster
I have to wonder that Ned was so against killing Daenaerys because it reminded him that Rhaegar's son is Jon. If he hadn't had that burden, Ned would not bat an eye on Robert's decision to murder Dany. If he agreed to kill her, it's as if he failed to protect Jon.
And Daenerys was mad? Tuh
Exactly 😂😂😂
Palpatine:"Ironic." Both dead at the end of the series.
The sound effects at the ens to let us know she is in a shithole.
Robert literally was one of the only people who took Daenerys as a serious threat
She forgot to say “hashtag feminist” at the end.
Robert wasnt a good king. But he was right, about everything
Ned was so unprepared for Kings Landing.
I looooved Robert Baratheon sooo much. He was a drunken womanizer but ultimately he was a great king because he just lived his life. What a weird situation Ned’s whole existence is… Targaryens killed his father and brother yet one of them loved his sister and now he raised his sisters Targaryen son and he loves him. Ned ultimately if sympathetic to Targaryens now yet his best friend wants to murder all of them for his sister and his brother and father…. Neds probably like “ wow… what a friend… thank you “ but also “ fuuuck shits getting real tooo close “ I also wonder if Ned ever told Robert about Jon snow if Robert would’ve treated him like a son too because his love for Liana.