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You forgot tho that Zack Snyder was goin for Frank Miller's The dark Knight returns Batman which was a darker grittier violent aggressive Batman who gave up on Gotham and then returned as its savior because he knew only he could save Gotham City

I think the fact that other than the looks Omni Man is not supposed to be a Super Man-alike. In my opinion the one who is supposed to be the Super Man-alike is Mark because their values and beliefs are the same despite the fact that they don’t have the same look and Mark isn’t as powerful as Omni Man.

i love the contra between batman an superman, batman is batman and bruce wayne is the mask, while superman is not superman but clark kent a normal man with extraordinary power. the play of colour like supes is bright and use primary colour and batman is dark, the view on justice itself, on the cruelty of the world. there's actually a lot, perfect match perfect best friend.

Christopher reeve and the 1978 superman portrait Clark and Superman Perfectly

Superman has been portrayed as a Mortal Kombat character a lot recently and I hope James Gunn changes this with his movie.

Not to hate but what you say in 4:01 to 4:13 and 5:06 to 5:13 sound nearly identical to what cosmonaut variety hours says about Superman in his video years ago. It kinda makes the validity of your understanding of Superman less trustworthy when your argument seems to be based off of what someone else said, to the point where you restate what they say nearly word for word. Idk I mostly agree with the vid, just thought it was strange how similar what you said was. I agree that homelander and omniman aren’t actual deconstructions of Superman as a character and more just twist on how we view people in power and they just use Superman’s powers to hammer the point in.

Zack Snyder really made a more down-to-earth superman, he is not ideal, because man himself is not ideal, but it was people who raised him, raised him as a human being, and even such a superman turned out to be the best version of any of us

i think santa is cannon in DC and superman literally met him

i love it, when faced with the fact that hes going to die and there is no cure, rather than spend the rest of his time on himself, he saves everyone else. While he couldnt cure his cancer, he cures every child in the hospital of theirs, he stops a teenager from killing themselves, he is there for everyone, not just for world ending people.

Superman : Hero Omniman : Anti Hero Homelander : Pure villain

I don't even like his voice.

he is "Man"

I mean I've heard it said before but Mark is a better representation of who superman is in invincible than Omni man.

I mean I've heard it said before but Mark is a better representation of who superman is in invincible than Omni man.

I like how dc is getting back to the heart these characters

My favorite quote "If Tests Were Easy, They Wouldn't Be Tests." (Superman's humanity really shines through the best in touching introspective moments like this) [SUPERMAN #5].

I think people have just forgetten that those are obviously evil versions of this characters. Alternate realities. Super man is superman. Period. He is good given form. He is a simple answer to over whelming odds. Corn fed kansas boy that just wants to do good. And see good done. The evil versions of him make me love My adventures with Superman even more.

"When I was was young, I wanted to be like Superman. Now? I only hope I can be like Clark Kent." THAT HIT...THAT FUCKING HIT

"Superman believes in Santa" of course he does, in both DC and Marvel, Santa is a real person, to think otherwise is to deny reality.

Superman is my 2nd favorite Superhero but no. 1 in DC Comics I love what he is, a good man trying his best to fit in this world, I wish that was fully embraced

,Mcu peter is basically a white miles morales, he has a fat asian friend and a black girlfriend, he doesnt make his own suit until no way home, he has everything handed to him and he feels like a sidekick and not his own hero. I think Tobey is Classic Spider-Man and Andrew is Modern Day Spider-Man

superman isn't the evil " what if superman was bad?" characters? wow!

Homelander is nowhere near Superman's level. People forget that our boy scout has been de-powered over the years to make his threats seem challenging

They absolutely dick rode Batman for the past damn near 20 years. Its the reason why Superman was always easier to pick on ..

thumbnail from which comic?

OMG! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks 13rw is ridiculous. I have forced myself over and over again to continue watching it because people would say it was very "moving" and they "really liked it" but honestly fuck that. BH is literally a masterpiece and whoever wrote this is a genius poet.

“Pa, that’s my job!” I love this cinnamon roll so so much 🥰😆

Great video! I disagree with a few assertions though, especially about Omni-Man. I feel like Invincible gets talked about a lot in these evil supermen conversations, and I can't help but feel like the comparison of Omni-Man to superman is a superficial one the show goes out of its way to break really early on. The scene where he leverages his conversation with Debbie to get her to promise him trust, while he lets the city burn, his twist roots and the destruction of the invading aliens, etc. The whole time this is happening, there's a second character who has the same powers, is less interested in fighting than in saving people, and is utterly dedicated to his morals and the people in his life, than all else. Fucking, Invincible! This show isn't "what if superman was evil??" it's just, it's not. It's what if Superman had an evil dad.

Homelander and Omni-Man being compared to Superman is similar to how John Walker and Soldier Boy are compared to Captain America.

I see people amazed by superman's kindness and I honestly can't see it. I mean, obviously he's the scout boy, the hopecore of the DC universe... but he's so boring. Like, not saying that I'd rather edgy characters or anything, batman stans are already loud enough. I'm saying is that... the whole charade of him being basically jesus christ on steroids doesn't work for me. The need for a saviour that is 100% moraly good is... weak.

Omni-Man is not evil Superman. Mark is Superman dealing with a flawed world.

I agree with a lot of what you said here in how a lot of people don't get Superman. However, I'm excited to see the public reaction to the rest of Omniman's arc, the writing of the Invincible comic is a great example of both a deconstruction and reconstruction, because Kirkman and Walker really get the person-ness of the character Clark Kent. Spoilers: Omniman willingly goes to supermax space prison after Mark finds out he's been living a few months on a bug man planet as their ruler he says he did a lot of thinking and becomes a much more humble and somber character constantly worried about how he will (if ever he can) atone for the things he's done in the name of the dead Viltrum empire. He convinces a number of the Viltrumites to live on earth (mostly vice versa), not just to repopulate their numbers but convinced that living with humanity, away from the society they grew up in where they saw themselves as gods over the rest of the universe and reinforced that feeling any way they could, will make them experience and feel the better parts of humanity, until they want to embody it themselves.

True buut man of steel did still show some scenes where clark was kinda human.

Peter Parker: The MCU doesn’t understand me! T’challa: First time?

I would argue (someone has probably saod this, I cant imagine Im the obly one) that Bojack Horse. Shows just how empty and depressing most of Hollywood/entertainment is. Not saying that there isnt more going on, but that was a big takeaway I uave had from watching it and at least having some understanding of that industry

Weirdly enough Metro man is the best subversion of the Superman trope.

There's a Starman waiting in the sky.

If your Superman isn't the kindest most hopeful person in whatever room he is in then you have failed to adapt Superman. I wish this video had more views

I think it boils down to humility.

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Clark Kent is humanity made manifest in its most pure form, helping others and protecting the weak and innocent not because we gain anything from it but because its the right thing to do

Snyder cult didn't like this video

wtf do these shows have anything to do with each other lmao

I kind of like animated DC and MC more than live action DCU and MCU.

Technically Herb doesn’t die from cancer but roving into a peanut truck

You are 100% correct. The worst part of watching Superman, is the bad writers who despise him.

To be fair to Clark, Santa canonically exists in the DC universe. He invades Apokolips every year, breaking through all their defences, just to deliver coal to Darkseid

Superman doesn't mean strong punch flying man with laser eyes. It means superior man, it means he's better, as a person.

This entire video didnt even explain why the MCU doesnt understand spiderman😂

He is the starman waiting in the sky truly