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@@Sasquatch-nb3tc I will look into it 😁

@@YeahBuddy 😁 I used 1.75, but it might be better price to buy a larger diameter

@@makeitlabchannel thank you! Keep on creating!

@@CarlosSantos-xb8ew Yeah right now nothing seems like it will replace a traditional basketball, and it might require different printing than FDM, maybe SLS like the Wilson Airless basketball is made. Maybe the right filament with FDM like you said too

@@josephsmith601 I appreciate it!

I just printed these in a 0.6 nozzle and they turned out pretty good, still need to remove supports and test though. I can send you my settings if you email me at makeitlabchannel@gmail.com, but it is very similar to the flex PLA settings just a nozzle temp of 235 C and I slowed the printing even more/upped the cooling for the outer edges

@@PropScientist You make a good point. I have been doing R&D on the best filaments first and then saving the basketballs to do a whole video about durability while taking them to a court for actual play, but I can and probably should have been doing more of that in each video. I will plan on more, but I did do some basketball playing in this video: ruclips.net/video/P5sE0fNV0Ms/видео.html

Hey there, I think if you use the right settings and print it slow it would work, but since the build plate is 225 x 225 you will have to scale the ball down a bit.

@@makeitlabchannel that’s true

Hey there, I would be happy to. What printer/slicer will you be using? If you are using Bambu Studio I can send you the 3mf - if you send me an email at makeitlabchannel@gmail.com I can send the 3mf or information over

@@Manlypopins I very much appreciate it!

@@makeitlabchannel of my god i didn’t think you would respond thank you for making my day

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@@newCrysis that cracked me up lol now I want to design one where it whistles every time you bounce it

@@DrShempTV Do you mean a raw polypropylene (pp) ball without the additives like in this video?

@@anthonyflores9609 oh dang is it that bad? Lol I will look into a better mic

I will check out the pp filament! I also tried to print CF tpu but it kept clogging/failing no matter the settings I changed or used and I ran out lol. After watching CNC Kitchen's video on flexible filaments I don't know if CF filaments will be the way to go but the fiberflex looks very promising: ruclips.net/video/4InFd5DoZa4/видео.htmlsi=dMI_JPdQIsn0-5X1

@@makeitlabchannel Yes seems like that fiberflex might be a good way to go and why CF filaments wont work. I think the PP from Wol3D costs 3000INR or 36USD with taxes but I dont know about the shipping costs.

Thanks very much for the info, really appreciated!

@@timapologun6995 Glad it is helping!

@@cameronjensen6158 Yeah it is the best by a lot so far but I have a couple of filaments coming up that might be close or even potentially better 😁

@@makeitlabchannelare they more expensive then peba? I have 1kilo in the mail

@@TheIcemanModdeler Dang that sounds like a lot of work, I haven't tried Bifrost but I will have to check it out

@@makeitlabchannel Not sure if you’re familiar with Maya, Bifrost is a procedural nodal system in Maya.

@@TheIcemanModdeler Oh gotcha, I will have to check Maya out then!

@@cowabungacrypto Yeah I might have to use a tool next time

@@BobBrown-x8z From what I have printed, both in durability and bounce is the PEBA filament, but it is also pricey

@@makeitlabchannel Thanks.

How much peba filament needs to be used to print a basketball, could you save money by getting a half roll?

@@user-ce8xt3uy5m To print a full size basketball it will be about 645 grams with supports included, so 2 rolls are needed. I am working on another version of the ball that will work with just 1 kg roll without needing to scale the ball down

@@StylishHobo Yeah that cracked me up lol

bambu lab just released PPA--CF, you should try that, the stats on that filament are nuts

@@customswitchblade6924 I will check it out!

I am not sure you tried that but TPU seems like a good idea especially the harder ones.

@@dusek0000 I printed out a 98A hardness tpu one and it was durable but did not bounce well. I will have it in a video soon 😁

Awesome you keep making these! Looking forward to seeing Fiberlogy Fiberflex in one of your tests :)

@makeitlabchannel a little.... lol. It's not unbearable, I'll still watch your content. It's not SO BAD I don't want to watch it. But if RUclips is something you're going to pursue full-time eventually, I definitely would get a better one. Besides that, love the content, and still enjoy the r&d you are doing 👍👍

Tpu pls

@@Preco-i1h that is next on my list 😁

@@anthonyflores9609 Well I appreciate you letting me know because I just thought it sounded bad on just my own system lol. Just bought one so hope it is better!

@@anthonyflores9609better what

@@ryanlim474 That is all I have been doing and it has been working well so far 😁

@@Lighthouse8458 Oh that is strange - no changes in the settings? And which filament were you using? I have heard that some filaments can cause issues like this, and one of the fixes I read was completely purging the old filament from the previous print out with something like regular PLA before starting a new print. Might be worth a try?

@@makeitlabchannel I was using PEBA filament, and no changes to the settings. Another thing I noticed is that the overhangs were never as smooth as the top part of the ball. It only got worse on subsequent prints. After 2 failed prints, i purged by printing out a 20 minute small print with PLA, but the failure still occurred on my 3rd print. I ordered some spare upgraded parts and can let everyone know how it goes too! Thanks again for the videos man

@@Lighthouse8458 that is strange - hope the spare parts help!

@@MakerDad Glad to hear it turned out well! Mine is still holding up and still bounces better than any filament I have tried - hope yours holds up as well 😁

@@makeitlabchannel Was thinking about increasing the Top-Z Distance of the support to object interface from 0.2 to 0.22. To see how it affects support removal. Will let you know.

@@Mr.Schneeebly Would be interested to hear how it turns out!

@@uscitizen5656 oh man, I am not sure how long any of these filaments would hold up against a pit bull lol but the peba filament has shown to be the most durable but the most expensive. Also, scaling the model down might make it weaker but others have successfully printed it smaller. I am going to work on a version of the model that can print on 220 mm beds and smaller that won't lose durability, but it will be a bit before I can make it/test it.

@@kezzatube45 Yeah for sure, I already look like that when I play so I can use it and it won't matter lol

@@makeitlabchannel damm man, maybe use it then to throw the other team off then 😆

@@kezzatube45 Haha for sure!

@@SkyLar-i7x Yeah it kind of is lol

@@demonocolips I will be experimenting with dyes/sealants soon too - hopefully something will help with longevity but yes I will definitely be testing longevity with this 😁

@@sebastien3648 I will test these filaments with a 0.6 nozzle and maybe change a few settings to see if that helps. Strange that it seems to only happen with certain filament

@makeitlabchannel and I would add that it happened with your design and two others, so it shouldn't be because of the file. I use Orca Slicer, so maybe there's something going on with that. (Since it s based on bamboo studio)

@@sebastien3648 I guess that is somewhat good news as I thought it was the file at first, but other filaments didn't have this problem either so glad we can rule that out. Hopefully a 0.6 nozzle will magically make it better 😁

From testing, they seem to have very similar bounces. The filaments in this video are about $20 more per 1 kg, but they might be a bit more durable. As of right now, I would go with the Ataraxia Art because if you catch it on sale it can even be half the price of the other two, but if price is not an issue I would probably go with one of the filaments in the video because they seem to be a bit more durable.

@@makeitlabchannel Thanks for the response. Im currently printing your airless basketball design using the standard ataraxia. I appreciate all your efforts toward research,testing and design. Im curious if the Ataraxia B has a significantly better bounce than the standard version and if would you be willing to test that filament with a 0.06 nozzle. Ideally I'm hoping you can get the same performance as the PEBA filament at half the cost and half the amount of printing time.

@@eugeneweldon7196 Hope it prints well! I am trying a lot of the best options with a 0.6 nozzle, and there are a couple promising filaments that could be cheaper than peba and have similar performance.

@@armyguy6335 oh dang, sorry to hear that 😕 what printer and printing speed did you use? I used a 3D pen with some extra filament to patch some and it worked fairly well but was a bit tricky. I was going to see if 3D gloop would work as well

@@rsdreamanimations Hey there, I like those better as well. The model is available here: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/collapsing-claws-wolverine-claws-fidget-toy-deadpool-3-3d-model

@@makeitlabchannel thanks so much

@@matthewthompson7012 I squeezed/bounced them on all sides and I could not see or feel any dead spots

@@tankprohp Thanks, and yeah probably not but my kids like playing with them so good enough for me lol

@@parker73724 It has definitely surprised me as well - not as easy as I thought either lol

They use a different printing technique. It is still way overpriced, but they have to make up for their RnD

@@AreolaGrande94 I agree, the file I used in this video couldn't get to the official weight with the peba filament so I made my own file made for peba, and the most recent one I printed was in the official weight and feels much better

@@leafly7917 hey there, the most durable filament/basketballs I have printed so far have been the PEBA basketball and the flex PLA basketball that I annealed in the oven. They are both still holding up. Did you use the filament from Flexforge? I haven't tried a ball made of their flex PLA yet but the Ataraxia Art flex PLA seems to hold up well. The most recent 2 that I printed in this video seems to be holding up well also. What printer are you using?

@makeitlabchannel I'm printing on an Ender 3 V3 se. The ball wasn't 100%, it was about 90% a men's ball size which is the max my printer can handle. Yes I used the white flashforge flexible PLA. I also have come to think it broke mostly because the inner lattice structure broke, apparent by dead spots on the ball which I definitely attribute to not fully figuring out the print settings in cura.

@@leafly9203 I will be designing a version of the ball that will fit on a 220 x 220 build plate so that no one will have to scale it down to fit so it is as durable as it can be. Hopefully will be released soon, but optimizing Cura settings will help as well. I know it takes long but slower printing speeds definitely help as well

@@makeitlabchannel yeah I did it on 30mm/s, but the bottom still came out very rough from overhangs, and I'm not quite sure how to fix that. I just got done printing an airless football (American football) as well with 95% flow rate but that didn't help much. I'll keep on tinkering with the settings on maybe some smaller scale versions of these balls to see what the issue is. I'm generally not very experienced with cura settings, so this might be a good opportunity to figure them out.

@@leafly9203 yeah that seems like a very reasonable speed, and I have to say that Cura doesn't make it easy to optimize things sometimes. Wish I could be more help with that

@@TheInsaneupsdriver I like that idea, might just have to try it!

@@TheInsaneupsdriver I might have to look into pressure chambers 😁

@@TheInsaneupsdriver oh dang that would be cool

I will have to put the basketballs through a real game/maybe do some tests to find out the aerodynamics, but when I have played on a court with low wind it feels similar. I can definitely test if I can fall on one too lol

@@rish3219 Oh nice, I have some 98A tpu so I will have to see how they compare

@@cvetkaavgustin8489 Much appreciated 🙂

@@Micbro that is a good question but I would bet it would work on at least some of the ball. I am going to be testing some dyes/coatings that might help with that too

@@3dexperiments Not quite sure - I might have to try it!

@@2008gore haha, na I get what you are saying. I think the main benefit would be that you don't have to worry about inflating them/having a leak, but really it is just a fun challenge to try and make a basketball with a 3d printer to see how close I can get it to a real one.

@@makeitlabchannel okay, that I can respect. Just wasn't sure if there was an athletic point to it on top of the fun challenge.

@@2008gore Yeah I am not sure if it will ever entirely outperform a regular basketball, but price to make the basketballs could be another potential benefit. I can print a normal sized basketball right now for about $19 (although it doesn't bounce as well as a normal one and doesn't account for the cost of the printer/etc). The normal ball I bought from the store the other day was about $40. If good filament options keep getting cheaper, so will the price on the 3D-printed basketballs 😁

@@leidyschuberg7062 Do you mean it started printing crooked?