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gospel of salvation is only for church goer, gospel of the kingdom is different.

The Church as a community must give serious thought to Christians in the church who do not want to have a family or have children even though they are married. They will have reasons for taking such postion. How can the church help them

Please invite pastors from Methodist too. Please bring in more perspective into your podcast

I worship led for 15 years at KL's mega churches and am today no longer in church except the occasional visits because I've found churches so irrelevant and churchy Christians so out of touch with the world. Everyone has become so insular, inward looking, church-growth-centric, numbers-centric, pastor-centric and there is very little authentic and genuine connection with people who will really journey with you. The current model of discipleship within the church echoes the structure of multi-level marketing, prioritizing numbers over genuine connection. This approach feels devoid of love-the essence of the second greatest commandment. To be embraced, respected, and accepted within this framework, one must project an image of being 'cool,' wholesome, and successful, which further illustrates a troubling lack of love within the church community (which again indicates that the church is bankrupt of love).

Oh wow. Pastor Tryphena’s story mirrors what was shared in Becket Cook’s recent interview with Dr Nicolasi ruclips.net/video/UJur1jDGlqE/видео.htmlsi=Tw2LbdMEyAnBB8t_ The “surrogate dad”

Hi, I am looking for a remnant... If you think you're one of them... then message me... Blessings!

Drivel.

That slay was funny😂

Amen

Tryphena, you are loved. XOXO

Hey there Andy, I love the work you are doing. Do you know Brian Houston and Judah Smith from Churchome? They can help you grow your church with their mentorship.

Shorter the interview better! A lot of unnecessary being shared.

God is Love❤

Amen God said go and sin no more.❤

Total crap. You are who you are.

Thank you ladies for your Courages to share how God helped you to overcome all your struggles and came out in victory! With the help of God, all things are possible. With your sharing, you may help thousands of people to come out from these areas.

Oh goodness talk to your son about sex already. If he's 8 now, im sorry to inform you that you are not the first person he is hearing it from in one form or another unless you actually grew him in a bubble.

You can’t be homosexual & call yourself Christian! Period! Repent & ask God to make right your identity, most homosexual were either have rape & molestation done to them or have generational curses, God can heal & deliver those things & make it right in your life & He can set you back to your identity He had created you in your mother’s womb!

Thank you so much for this conversation ❤ so so blessed by your authenticity and faith 🙏🙏

Why marry? Don't bother.

It was necessary for the moderator to interject to keep the conversation within the framework of the Bible & along the right track as it is a sensitive issue. Good insights all around.

Wow, they are brave!

Your introduction is too long and repetitive. Getting a bit boring. Literally have to fast forward. I love listening to the pastor. Shows that God loves sinners.

Good discussion good episode! As usual, keep it coming!🎉🎉 Looking forward for the next one! 🤙🏻🤙🏻 #generations

Because God didn’t create robots of us but gives us the responsibility to choose; humans made in His image, able to discern between light and darkness, right and wrong, and what is holy, what grieves His heart. God loves us but hates sin. It is up to each human being to choose to live in accordance to God’s way, or to just live to please fallen flesh, following world and devil. The human problem all face is called sin. God loves us so much He sent Jesus His beloved Son to save us from that and its penalty of eternal death. Salvation with eternal life is found through placing our faith in Christ, following His Example of sacrifice, servanthood and self-denial.

Why must the moderator interject with his opinions, interpretation and putting words into Hazel,'s mouth when Hazel was trying to explain her experience?

My personal: My mom remarried when I was 5. And her husband was so violent. Because I'm from her first husband child, my mom always input me the wrong thoughts. At the same time, my stepfather also brain washed me with things looks good, but it supposed to be violent and sexual morality. That I been keep brain washed until 18 years old. As an adult, I thank God that God sent Christian like spiritual mom to me and teaching me what is right and wrong. If not, maybe I will commit crime or adultery at the young age.

TOXIC Churches everywhere la i have no faith anymore la

I need help Pastor JOn iam losing it man... the fool in his heart says there is no GOd ar.. They have failed already the whole church has Lost what i thought it stands for even those in the same church would allow

Pastor JON glad tiding pj supports sponsoring funds toward organization to people (unknown) with christian wages but doesnt respect us christians whom have been with the church for years and give tithes everyweek not for their money but that respect as a child of god

Just subscribed to the channel and the content has been great so far. In fact it’s a whole new world! Don’t give up if you feel this is your purpose. Be blessed!

Chew Weng Chee from SIBKL has decided to “mentor” through his Lentil Patch Ministry. You can do a background check on him by looking up his RUclips sermons.

Can you just stop uncensoring ? It's pretty annoying

He is showing you your values are different

I love how Liang works on every question knowing and avoiding all the landmines of how his words can twisted, providing spot on clarification at every turn. His sharpness brings clarity and confidence to many who have been hurt by church but do not have the same level or articulation he has, and brings comfort that the God of the Bible still walks with us when we leave the building that His people gathers. He knows our struggles and brings us back into wholeness and give us a community in Christ that understands

bless u pastor jon... and pastor andy ,thanks for helping me even through the leadership that u had to go through... in jesus name.. amen

Lol kong sai style intro😅😅 ....yo was he introvert as a leader, oh my

Thanku so much for starting this podcast. I was touched n even teared..cos I could relate. Thank God for what U are doing ..

My people perish for lack of knowledge. Follow Jesus Christ only, not man.Jesus say, no man is good only God. Meaning, even a person call himself a Pastor, a Reverend ( which is irreverent),a Pope or any church leaders. Don't touch God's anointed is a misquoted verse by leaders who are insecure. When we are sensitive to the holy spirit and his word. We will never be afraid of any insure leaders. My personal advice to all who have been hurt by leaders, don't look to man but to Jesus Christ and his teaching.

Care group and cell group are source of church trauma… church put toxic people in leadership… it worse than working in a toxic corporate

Thank you brother for sharing your past experience though it is not easy. What you have went through, I experienced about all of it as well. Just that I am not a full time staff in the church. However that didn't still cover the fact that my previous church pastor and leaders were spiritually abusive towards all of the church members in the church. I was also blind by being dedicated to the church's activities and would be marked as "rebellious" if not being able to attend any church activities. But it hit me hard when I noticed that the cousin of the pastor started to spread false rumors about me. Initially I thought it was just a misunderstanding and left it at that for years till 2017, I noticed that many church members left and hurt because of her. In my mind I always remembered the pastor taught us not to defame even though the person has sinned. And there it happened, the pastor's cousin spread false rumors, defame others. For my last few years before I left the church at year end of 2019, I couldn't take in any sermon preached on every Sunday. But I thank God because after I left the church and move on to another church, my eyes are opened and experienced the goodness of God I have never experience before. In all things, God is good all the time. Amen.

Thank you for sharing Pastor Jon. Is so real what you shared, I have experienced abuse of prophecy and also rudeness from pastor but at different church as well. It did affected me a long time and took long time to heal. I did not leave my faith but was disappointed with people. I truly understand the pain. But throughout the years now, I learned we don't see people for their title or authority or label themselves as believers, but to watch the fruits they bear. Similarly that applies in our own life , to remind ourself to bear good fruits as a follower of Christ. This message is a reminder for all who are serving and all who are believers to watch how we carry ourself and bearing good fruits.

To both to you i say and to put it kindly, repent and forgive as you have both have been forgiven. You both have a long way to go. Everyone has a different learning curve, and you both still haven't got the real point yet. In simple terms, yall late bloomers & i pray you'll both bloom sooner than later.

To both to you i say and to put it kindly, repent and forgive as you have both have been forgiven. You both have a long way to go. Everyone has a different learning curve, and you both still haven't got the real point yet. In simple terms, late bloomer and i pray you'll both bloom sooner than later.

What you said about the leaders are religious practice. If you walk in the word of God, you submit to God not to men. You will know what is right or wrong . Even the leaders are supposed to walk with God and love their flocks and not to manipulate them but to build them up to walk in Jesus's way. Sadly not all church people knows the word of God well and they go by what the church leaders tell them to do. If you know the word of God, you will know and not submit to leaders who manipulate you. I will avoid such leaders or even leave the church if they are not walking in God's way.

Hey do your meet? Where if you do

When we stand on the rock of Jesus, we will not be shaken to change. One thing I learned each time I leave a church. I must not hold grudges, wiling to forgive and ask forgiveness and still be friends though I left the church. What matters is our rightful heart and solve problems before leaving to another church. There's no perfect church but we have the perfect God.

Amen. It's so good to hear love with truth. ‭ 1 Corinthians 13:6 ERV‬ Love is never happy when others do wrong, but it is always happy with the truth. Walk with Jesus and not human's approval always. ❤ Again, God is looking at our hearts and only He knows how much faith we have. Not the system even as human fails and not repent. Secularism and spiritual warfare is much more real than we want to address. Simple simple less competition or complexity 😅

John 3.19KLV Men loved darkness rather than light. Can you put trust on men? i still remember saturday at 5. No sermon No sermon No sermon for almost 3months. Main pastor sleeping on the job.

Thanks Pastor Andy for unpacking and attempting to process this sensitive topic. Kudos to Jon for the courage to put his story out there. May God's blessing continue to abound in your lives.