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Always believed that Uberti made a better gun. Until I bought a stainless black powder Uberti 1873 Navy. What a butchered POS. Fit and finish was terrible. Rounded over edges on the barrel flats at the muzzle. Front sight wasn't even close to clocked straight. Cylinder front edges rounded over noticeably more on one side. Cylinder bores way oversize from bore diameter with horrible tool marks in those same bores. Uberti said to return it, not to replace but repair. Found same model in stainless from Pietta and snatched it up. Fit and finish was near perfect. As good as a smokeless version of either company's guns. Pietta really upped their game about 7-8 years ago. Don't buy either brand without holding the gun you"re buying first. Buying black powder guns online is risky. Oh, I sent that Uberti gun back to the seller for a fun refund. You don't need the headache

Thank you!!! I’ve been trying to figure out how to fix my overtravel for days now. I still need a new cylinder because mine is chipped to hell and back

This is why i chamfer the chambers it will still shave but it will swage the balls in. I use felt wads to prevent chain fires regardless. It works better since lubing cylinders doesnt work when your gun is warm. It makes the gun a greasy mess.

Your comparison is biased, if you want a valid comparison, compare two identical models, for example two 1851 navy, 1 of each brand. Here you compare a fancy model (although army 1860 of 4" were produced in very small numbers) and a more period model correct, it distorts the comparison. 😉 I have Pietta and Uberti, for me the Pietta are better now.😇

Clearly a Uberti Fan boy review.

f you i like Petta

I’ve had it happen to me once years ago when I forgot and didn’t grease my projectiles as I was told to do by many people. I had 4 chambers go off with one ball weakly hit the back of my truck. Fortunately there is enough gap between the cylinder and frame so that the projectiles left with not building up too much pressure. After that I made sure I either have lube, lubed wads or both, not forgetting. It sure makes a big bang and a large flash.

Your explanation of the hammer force is incorrect. The hammer is being accelerated throughout its travel by the mainspring. The longer travel before hitting the shorter nipple allows more kinetic energy to be transferred to the cap.

I lent $50 to a friend about 25 years ago. Months later, he offered to give me some stuff he never used in lieu of cash because his finances were just that tight. I became the owner of an 1860 Colt New Army revolver made by Pietta along with some Pyrodex powder, caps, balls, felt wads, powder horn, nipple wrench, and a few other accessories. I tried selling the stuff, but no one was interested. Ten years later, I started playing wth it, and now I love it. Since then, I have bought some bore butter, balls, wads, and powder. All told, far less than $150, and far less than this guy has put out. Buy the basics and simplify your process, and this is an extremely economical hobby.

In the early '60s you could get a NEW in the box original Rogers and Spencer cap and ball revolver for $5.00 each. (Over-production for an Army contract, the the Civil War ended.)After 1965 the price went up but not much until the hype over the 1976 200 Anniversary. IMHO the CVA kits were a great way to go in the '70s, the quality of the single shot stuff was meh, the revolvers were not to bad and you learned a little about metal and wood work in the process. No hobby is cheep.

I have a Uberti. I have an issue with the gun gumming up when shooting. 12 rounds and the thing gets so gummed up it will not cock let alone the revolver not turn. Painin the you know where when you have to stop and clean it just to shoot. Has made a great wall piece for the last 40 years.

The gun itself is cheap. Finding what neccessities for maintenance and ammo you want and where to get them become expensive. authentic black powder is hard to find in a lot of locations, a lot of gun stores lack a lot of black powder equipment (especially when it comes to percussion caps and roundball). But once you get everything it becomes fun and cheap.

A very useful info to look out.

"The ring of lead" is caused by a sharp edge on the cylinder not because the ball is so tight in the cylinder. Normally there would be a slight chamfer on the edge so there would be no shearing of lead off the ball, which could actually make the situation worse. The ball needs to be tight to keep from flashing over. I thought that the "ring o' lead" was important so I had a .003" bigger mold made. Still no lead shear. Ball still went in hard as before as the lead swaged into the cylinder as before. Never had a flashover...knock on wood-

bullshit fucking bullshit

I would argue shooting heavy lead is expensive regardless. At least my black powder stuff is reasonable. Over a dollar per around for .357 let alone 44 mag I can shoot my black powder for 1/5 of that and still feeling good throwing heavy lead

Fascinating and informative 😊

Im about done with youtubes bullshit.

I can’t believe the issues with pietta revolvers. Bought a Remington new army and the front loading lever lug broke off

I got an unfired 1860 Colt Army Pietta Steel Frame for 10 Levitra Pills I paid 0.43 each for. So $4.30 for the Revolver lol.

Pedersoli 1858 Remington Is Lightyears ahead of both Pietta and Uberti. Pedersoli is the Percussion Firearms King!

You don't need a powder flask, and many of the other "needed" items you stated. I have them but I have been shooting BP pistols and rifles since 1980 and it was years before I got some of those. Also, I shoot BP every weekend and I have NEVER replaced a spring or any other component in one of my revolvers (other than Armi San Marco, see below). I go through 48 to 54 shots per gun each weekend and never had to replace anything in a Pietta or Uberti. Also, 40 years later I still have the same percussion cap nipples. WTF are you doing that is causing you to replace nipples? Are you buying nipples made out of cola can tin? Now, Armi San Marco is a different story, I couldn't get through 36 shots with one of their pieces... but I replaced the failed components with Pietta. My 1860 San Marco has been shooting for years since I replaced the insides with Pietta (Uberti would have been just as good). Also, you talk about the cost of this and that but I do not see a comparison of that with a shot by shot of standard ammo. You also don't note that many of the items you say are necessary are one off purchases so it isn't a recurring cost, which your screen shot seems to imply it would be. You don't need felt, period correct wads can be made from bacon fat and bees wax (in the loading handbooks I have found felt isn't even mentioned). If you have a .44 BP revolver, a .45 ACP or standard .45 Colt brass works just fine as a cookie cutter. I have been making my wads this way for decades. I am sorry, as a BP shooter for years I find this vid to be very misleading.

are the treads all the same on all this nipples?

Fortunately I got into this hobby a very long time ago. My first 1851 Navy Colt was found at a gun show, when gun shows had a variety of guns, a no finish but good bore marked ADDRESS COL. COLT NY. Yes it was an original with no collectors value and it was before the Italians got into the replica gun business. It is a fascinating, frustrating, enjoyable hobby. Too bad everything has gotten so expensive and scarce.

Colt literally had manuals that specifically said "Do not use any lubricant or grease" If you use properly sized caliber then you are fine.

Sounds like a PCP air rifles a way to go

Ubertis are a little more expensive and do not hold up as well as Piettas. Piettas are just plain built better. But hey, it's just my opinion.

Great info- thanks!

I use a diamond sharpener…

Should be ok if the chamber end is very lightly chamfered. This can be done with a knife or a small round file.

Cutting the ball as you press it in leaves the ball unbalanced with the smooth sides. I have never had a lead ring loading my 45 cal muzzle loader ever and you should never bang the ball into the barrel to hard, which will also deform the ball.

Have u even felt the action between these 2 brands?!?!!! Pietta’s action is way smoother and the action is so much better. U don’t know anything about, bro.

3:20 on the comment of 1851s in brass frame within the south there werent any COLTS made with brass frames. However, the 1851 design was copied very heavily by southern manufacturers looking to sell to the CSA. Also there are examples of 1851s post war getting chopped down to "sherrif" barrels by gunsmiths for edc

I bought an Uberti pistol over 2 decades ago and paid a little over $200 for it. I might have spent a total of $275 with accessories. All told I think I put about 10 rounds thru the gun. At first I was using granulated black powder but switched to cleanshot 30 gr. pellets later. Anyway when you consider how much under fire (pun intended) shooting sports has become and with left wing pressure on the government to restrict and even ban firearms possession (re: MA total ban on "assault weapons") it's no wonder the price of all types of firearms has gone thru the roof.

Traditions sells a kit with all the extras for $360 before tax. All you need is cap, balls, and powder

You forgot the most important required items. First, another revolver. Second, another revolver. Third, is yet another revolver. No one can have just one or two.

Why don't you send it back to pieta?

Your balls are too small that's why. No point intended. Lol

I suspect that the Pieta cylinder chambers are tapered as a resultant of a dulled and tapered reamer. Replace the cylinder.

This is lame for me I got a 250 dollar pietta Navy I bought a 30 dollar cap maker and I bought some paper cartridges from track of the wolf for 15 Ballistol is only like 10 bucks on Amazon

Lol I bought my traditions 1851 with 100 rounds and 1lb of powder for 260 out the door like 13 years ago, crazy to see they are over 300 now.

A real concern about Colts made by Uberti is that the arbors aren't bottomed. When the wedge is in place there's still free play. Pietta on other side is arbor bottomed. Once wedge is in no more free play or floating barrel assembly. I fixed this on my Walker by adding metal with a gmaw welder and then grinded it to correct length and blued it.

Buy pietta, Trust me!

You can also get a single shot.

Did you buy these two guns new, or used? Strange that you find the Uberti better, I'd say it's the other way around. Buy yourself three of each and then make another video, I'm sure you'll find the Piettas better. I'm positive you've had some really rotten luck with your Pietta, you'd do well to return it to where you bought it.

Uberti is a much better company than pietta

Thanks for letting me know that a 19th century cap and ball revolver is much heavier than a Glock. I had no idea. Master reviewer!

I'm so glad that I accumulated my two 1860's, one sheriff model and the other a snub nose back before 2020. I've got about five pounds of 777, three pounds Pyrodex, a couple thousand Rem #10 caps, about a thousand .44 RB, few hundred .44 Kaido conicals, a cap punch, all the hand tools, flask, powder measures, picks, scales, spare parts galore, holsters and a 3in wide leather holster belt. All I really need to acquire now is bullet casting and wad making supplies...and more guns lol

Can I do that with my Dremel

A) quality control for both these companies is questionable. Some guns are good, others aren't (both brands). Your sample size was way too small too make any determinations. & B) Did you mail order guns sight unseen? If you did, no offense but... Your quality control leaves a bit to be desired also. Guns are like pieces of art, inspect each carefully BEFORE buying!