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If military has safety switch, why do police versions not have them?

Way to long of a video to watch. I found it funny the opening has 2 sigs laying on a glock-mat. That just made my day.

Great take

I've been shooting since age 10 and shooting Glocks for the last 25 years I've just ordered some Talon Granulated Grips for my Glock G19 Gen5 and i had some Trijicon Hd night sights put on it. I'm going to keep everything else Glock Stock for EDC Reliability.

Another officer, in La Grange, Texas, was shot by his P320, possibly just after this video posted. One report says first responders found his handgun still latched into his retention holster. If you still have faith in the P320's safety, chamber a round, keep the gun pointed in a safe direction, and wiggle the slide on the frame. You are not just wiggling the slide, you are also wiggling the frame mounted trigger against the slide mounted striker sear. The striker is at full cock held by a light single action sear. Dry fire the P320 and note the rear of the slide moves vertically. Chamber another round, keep the gun pointed in a safe direction, and lift the rear of the slide. You are applying a force to separate the sear engagement. You're pulling the trigger part of the sear down from the striker. That's how the P320 naturally discharges. The frame mounted part of the sear is pulled down from the striker by the trigger. The striker block is a light piece of metal with rounded edges, held into place to stop the striker by a single coil hair spring. It's just my opinion, but I worry there's a way the striker can bounce past the block. When I bought my P320, Sig marketing material still said the striker wasn't fully cocked in battery. That's not true. Except for the striker block, a P320 with a round chambered isn't much different from a Colt SAA carried hammer back. Please don't do that! Please consider design vulnerabilities in any firearm, respect them all, and keep faithful to Cooper's four rules. I am not queasy about loaded guns and EDC. My current setup is a compact 1911 with a Swartz firing pin block. I appendix carry in a quality holster in Condition 1. Please don't do that without training from a competent instructor, practice, and a blood oath (yours) to discipline.

I like the looks of the p320 but I like the peace of mind of the glock.

You have a p320 but I see you like glock.

Will the x300 work in a vulcarie 2 holster?

For me, I just don't like how it looks. Polymer sigs looks like a downgrade from the beautifully crafter p220 series (p228 is my favorite). Same as the striker fired beretta, it is ugly as hell.

12mins before actually talking about the gun. Just get straight to the point. Thanks

I don’t mess with the 320s for many reasons I run the 365 proven to not have drop safe issues or going off in holster. Little different design of FCU n I love the 226-229 series

That's all you need to do to qualify? hmm i know myself and most of my friends who could do that in their sleep lol.. not sure what the standards are for police to qualify, but seems to me for a person (Police officer) In panic and running around in public on the streets and at stores and shopping malls and gas stations, i would think they need a bit more to qualify to be safe to engage in combat against a suspect.. I think moving targets need to be added to qualification test..

you know it's ok to take a gun apart and put together on youtube now right? you can remove the slide on youtube, the only thing that is prohibit, is videos instructing users how to remove the safety devices from firearms. It will also restrict videos showing automatic or homemade firearms for users under 18, other than that you can show taking a gun apart, i have videos on how you clean your handgun and show how to remove things and take slides off and all that and i show it on the video.. There is no rule anymore that prohibits you from taking the slide off the gun and other parts as well, except removing safety devices ..

Excellent video. Took one course with Mas Ayoob years ago. I'm not law enforcement but I value proficiency. Maybe it's time for IDPA.

Its all training. When Glocks first came out in the 90's to replace revolvers there where multiple "accidental discharges" with the guns "going off on their own". (in Philly alone we had 20 in less then 6 months). Problem was there was zero training for handling the firearm and the revolver draw with a heavy trigger was ingrained in the officers vs the Glocks. (guess everyone commenting below was to young to remember all the bad press, thank god Glocks didnt have to deal with the internet, instead Glock just paid to have their bad press removed from newspapers and television reports, now a days it would have been a witch hunt for sure).

I carry the Delta L with a small backstrap, as well as a S&W M&P9 5” with the small backstrap, and they both point just as naturally as my beloved 1911s.

Bullshit

Is this nonsense being spoken at churches for real?

I would never get a 320 no way and no how there is something wrong with them and sig has a lot to explain.

It's like skateboard grip tape

New sub! Yeah i'm embarrassed with some of my partners that don't take shooting seriously. Love my Glocks and that's what I carry so that's what I train with. My gun collection is simple and I like it that way. I've owned STI's and Staccato's and realized I shoot my Glocks just as good, so I sold them and now I only shoot Glock. But training and effort makes you a good shooter. Not the gun.

Savage Arms Stance MC9 has a modular chassis system.

Afff

Paint it black that will be easier,

This is the people we pay our hard earned tax dollars too folks.... over weight and under trained.... he cant hit a stationary target to save his life.......

Hearing this report about the poor training for cops it seems reasonable that they would be issued service pistols with an external safety just as the military does. Too my mind any striker fire gun should have a safety as the fireing pin is under constant preasure when a round is in the chamber. On the judicial side should you have an "ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE" you can be charged with Reckless Endangerment!!

Excellent review and analysis. I’m not a fan of the P320, I think the quality control has had some issues. When they first came out I saw them on my national guard deployment, and they had trouble feeding the ammo for their qual. When I got back home to my state trooper job I heard agencies were telling guys to keep the slide back for 2 weeks when off duty to get the spring broken in. My first qual with it, I was helping coach on the range, not a one could make it through a qual without some malfunction. However I never saw an M17 have a problem after that. So I think they had quality control issues, at least at the beginning. I agree the adding trigger safeties would be the best solution for most of the NDs being reported. As far as Safariland goes they had a couple of decades being the cock of the walk and didn’t spend that time refining and fixing flaws. I’ve had too many for training that had rocks and gravel still in them; I stopped using them in 2020.

Police Departments need come into modernity and require red dot optics

No offense, but most law enforcement officers are horrible with guns. They could use a lot more training. It makes no sense that CCWs have more gun knowledge.

The delta M is my first AREX pistol, i now own 5, my M has 2500 rounds through it and it runs like a swiss watch, i absolutely love it, PPP Pure Polymer Perfection, will be adding the L and X tactical to my collection soon, AREX ROCKS.

You don’t have a normal holster, junk only

Not a cop but love the blackhawk holster, built like a tank

I work at a gun store for 5 years the scariest and worst handling of firearms were by cops

I find it funny people trust the less trained people to save their lives. Instead of getting trained there self and having the ability to save there own but.

Yes they can out shoot yall , at the same time 99.95 % of the 2a law abiding gun community will never get into a gunfight with a law enforcement Or civilian conflict , nor want to ….. it’s the goddamn government and their stupid ass statistics that try to make it seem that way …. When in reality it’s just a bunch of bullshit.

Got Sig P320 ? Hell No !!!

I know it was mentioned in the video but I was just curious what brand was that duty holster on your belt?

October 2019 I was yearly requalify duty pistol. I holster my p320 carry model to run to next area and it went off. It ended up shooting me. I don’t feel safe with 320 ever again.

Excellent video with great points. I've always thought that the P320 discharge issue was improper handling. How is the blackhawk holster with the Glock 17 and the TLR1? I have the same one and the glock is so loose that I can pull the gun so far down that it completely bypasses the hood. I'm wondering if I just got a lemon or if that's how they all are.

Ive got 2 early models that have yet to discharge on their own

Great video, I have looked at both of my 320s and they don't have any issue with the disconnector ... I can pull the slide all the way back and dead trigger. All factory

There is a reason the military required SIG to add an external safety to the P320... they recognized the potential of negligent discharges, due to lack of external safeties. IMHO, any dept that issues a P320 without a safety is culpable in any negligent discharges of those pistols. The M18 or M17, again IMHO, are awesome duty weapons. My personal choice is S&W M&P 2.0. I have found it to be more reliable and for me a better shooter.

The amount of opinions regarding p320’s from absolute morons is mind numbing. Whole lot of opinions from people that have no basic mechanical understanding. Being a “cop” doesn’t make you an expert on firearms.

We need more police trainers/admins like yourself. I've always wanted to become a cop growing up, but then once i got there... well i could help my community better elsewhere. I was a cadet for the swat team in baltimore city and those guys are amazing. I enjoyed every second training with those guys, but when it came time to training the regular patrol officers.. man did no one want to train. I could not believe the majority of these cops were even allowed guns, they failed most drills we ran through but were just recycled right back in. They are struggling for cops so bad that they are just pushing people through and its really terrible.

You are 100% telling the truth. I put more rounds down range in a month than the local pd where i grew up does in a year. Only a few there actually train regularly.

I don't like cops but I respect the ones that support the 2a and make other cops be better at there job

Me personally I’ve been in law enforcement for only 3 years. But I’m coming from 14 years in the military ( 2nd bct 10th mountain division) let me tell you I feel the reason p320s having issues in law enforcement is it has no trigger safety. The lack of training I’ve seen not just in my agency but multiple training agency at least in my area is they don’t train enough so in a high stress situation or even a medium stress situation drawling then re-holstering without that extra step of safety can really make a difference. Most law enforcement require the bare minimum for qualification with their firearm and most officers give the bare minimum when it comes to training.

Best advice I ever heard from someone was stay away from “ nra firearm instructors”.

I noticed a problem at 4:25 ...writing reports instead of proactively trying to stop crime. the problem with police is that they'd rather be sipping Starbucks or writing reports.....rather they should be looking to stop crime and start shootings criminals first rather than being caught off guard by them. You may be surprised but no one else is. I can't and wont rely on police because there aren't enough of you to keep everyone safe and even then a large percentage of the time innocent people are erroneously mistaken for the criminal. Look I understand it's a very unforgiving sometimes impossible job. but just look at the Uvalde Texas screw up and all the innocent people shot in their own homes. The level of incompetence in the Police community is inexcusable. especially in Knowing the civil rights of citizens and laws. 2nd and 4th amendment violations are rampant and egregious. searches require a warrant from a judge! The probable cause BS need to end,... made up framing Crap. All the more reason for citizens to be pro 2A and to be allowed to defend themselves even against the Law enforcement officers. You guys should be fighting for the public to be armed and trained to help protect YOU the fewer of you there are. Not the other way around. ATF is targeting the law abiding and not the criminals. The police are also too scared to engage real criminals and gangs engaged in actual black market trade of stolen arms too IMHO. It's a DEI WOKE POLITICAL AND GUTLESS SOFT ON CRIME POBLEM. Cops need to stop the gangs and gang violence and gang guns and gang black market trade of guns. Meanwhile OBAMA sells the Mexican cartel machine guns...... to try and prevent drugs..... no! prevent the illegal gun trade. I am pro Law and 2A but laws are NOT being enforced and laws in states are going soft on crime. Limp D police bastards need to get their mojo spine and balls and respect back. Good for you not signing off on someone not actually competent. By the look of that safari land's damage and dirt... you dropped it... likely with the gun in it. LOL The firing out of battery thing is scary considering the original drop issue. I won't ever buy a sig p320. not a fault of the firearm? you just demonstrated out of battery and the drop failure is a well known issue that may not have been fixed in all guns in circulation. Congratulations on proving it sucks and so does police judgement.

Awesome commentary at the beginning! I feel the pain of passing people who struggle to qual year after year. It's embarrassing and scary to be working alongside some of these people after watching them shoot. We have tried to up our standards a bit but people balk of course and change happens very slowly. To hit on another point, I thought I was a decent shooter and instructor till I started paying attention to training stuff from the competition greats. Made me realize how much I really don't know, but the learning journey continues always, and I'm trying to find ways to incorporate those lessons into a (sadly) dumbed down version for mostly casual LE shooters.