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I never had therapy but one thing that worries me about it is that friends that do it never seem to be able to stop it and self function.

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its so fascinating & will likely try it but.. why is it giving self-induced did.

I feel a somatic base is necessary for all of these modalities to be able to stay less disassociated while working through our disadvantaged survival strategies from our past.

It's seems really confusing to me, but I'm not sure how it works. I just started looking at it

I have gotten so discouraged many times when coaches/therapists ask me what the color of a feeling is or something like that. I don't see colors with feelings, I just feel them, and it made me loose trust in myself and therapist/coaches. Part of me gets angry right now for how much money I have been giving to people that may not have realised the impact some of their questions or suggestions have had on me and how discouraging this has been for me.

Hilarious 🎉🎉😂😂😂 love your sense of humour. Big fan already ❤❤❤

Just subscribed. Love yr room. Im in the uk, training to become a therapist just heard of ifs an hour ago. X

😂😂😂😂 the accuracy “parts do you trust me” ……. Crickets, that was so real!

I am just now starting I.F.S. It's the most helpful tool I've ever experienced. With saying that, I've been in therapy for 26 years on and off. Before starting with my current IFS therapist, i had healed a lot of my trauma. My flashbacks were still triggered. I lived in constant fight or flight. Diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder and CPTSD and Depression. Since I've been with my therapist, my flashbacks don't cause panic or anxiety. Depression and anxiety are at manageable levels. Every time i meet a new part and help it, I feel joy. I.F.S. is working for me but other methods have been taught before.

No one teacher knows everything in this world and if that was the case, all knowledge seekers should be out of things to do. Key is to learn from different people and integrate different ways of healing to what we personally find the best. I was trying to heal for 10 years and only when I started using IFS I saw the light. It was truly life saving to me and many others and helped me go deeper.

Did you ever do the unattached burden work ? Removing the entities that are not parts of the system? If not this is key on why things weren't working

Thank you for bringing this up. Personally, I would also love to see critical thinkings from people interested in the philosophy of science, paradox, mind, ethics, and political philosophy. I would imagine a critical part being critical about the existence of IFS, hence(?), of itself, which is a form of Liar's paradox. In general, I do not know if paradox would be used to evaluate models/theories. Shall we try to keep paradox away, adopting a new framework, or accepting a gray area between true and false? Or is it simply irrevelent? [I think Dick assumed not only that trauma makes solo-IFS harder, but also the converse that if solo-IFS feels hard, then there are probably some trauma.] He is concerned about the exling of parts in some other theraputic methods, and I think his concern will be disqualified if someone finds an alternative that would also not create new exiles. Ironically, being like a cult with IFS in some situations, though probably not making IFS intrinsically bad, can make doing IFS an exiling of the critical parts. Though not quite well-defined, Dick may use the idea of Self to win a round back for encouraging people to prioritize IFS therapy. I guess among all counterarguments, a strong one lies in pointing out how one can be in the Self and exiling the critical parts at the same time. Dick may fight back with saying that it takes time, or it is important to get allowance from the protective parts. Indeed, we would help Dick to hold his theory by inviting a new part--the self-like parts often taking the burden of protecting the clients from entering the pain with a therapist or simply from peer pressure. In this case, if the self-like part has the right to bring IFS/Self-energy to the broader audience, why could not other parts have the same right to do so, including that critical ones? Of course, our help may complicate his model. I have concerns about the future of both IFS itself and the social and the practical sides of it as if I am worring about a minor language which would have only kept the characters and left its literature mysterious. However, different from a minor language, the more people are talking about it enthusiastically, the shorter life it seems to get.

The end is important as the video says at the beginning. Practicing IFS doesn't require you tov treat it like a cult.

i really need help after a horrible bad trip and got the most extreme symptoms and don't know what to do

Wow. People in the comments are in desperate need of therapy. I am excited about your video! I have thought of my mind as having parts, and that my internal dialog is not "me", since I was teen, probably from hearing snippets of Jung and also Chogyum Trungpa. IFS introduced to me the idea of treating my parts like they are sentient, treating them with compassion, and talking to them. I was surpised that when I first addressed my parts, I got a response! I can't pretend my mind doesn't have parts, after 50 years. For me, the idea of protector parts, exiles etc. is the territory. To help my parts, I need therapy techniques, like psychoanalysis and CBT-like practices. What you say makes perfect sense to me!

I didn't agree with your findings because IFS is the only therapy I know of that addresses the foundation, namely the child traumas. But having read your comments, I think I now understand what you mean (but I could be wrong, of course). It's about the situation after the healing. How do you live your life from Self? How do you connect with the greater SELF? What is your core? To me, it sounds more like a spiritual question and not so much a psychotherapeutic question.

I appreciate both IFS and Jungian psychology, and I understand the mythical connection that you crave and get with Jungian analysis, but I don't think the house metaphor is appropriate. I recently started training with IFS and I am amazed just how quick it is in helping people see and work with their inner worlds in a way that I have never seen before.

Totally agree. . IFS wasn’t helpful for my cptsd. Did it for 5 years. I’ve found other means that have been more therapeutic- ketamines for instance.

I’m a UK therapist of 30 years and have been working with Jungian and IFS for some time now - I also use other frameworks when appropriate

I get 'cult' vibes all the time from people holding IFS up as the one and only solution to all their troubles. It's become a religion to some people, and it's super creepy when you see that. On the other hand, it's other people who are holding IFS up in this way. The IFS model itself is just a useful tool, if used properly. I will say the IFS Institute is a business, and they do of course market IFS. Dr. Schwartz might have great intentions for IFS, but he & the IFS Institute are also not a charity working purely for the betterment of people. It's a business with a product being sold in the form of books & training.

I don't need IFS. I have been interacting with my parts all of my life. But I appreciate the value of the IFS framework, especially for people who have not found their inner self naturally. I appreciate your honest & holistic perspective of IFS in the grand scheme of things. I can tell that you are well connected with your inner self.

IFS is just one tool. If a carpenter tries to build a house with only one tool, the project will suffer.

It's definitely unfalsifiable and unscientific, and it definitely has internal mechanisms that self-reinforce. For example, if someone is skeptical of IFS, that's just a part of you that is trying to protect another part of you. So, unfalsifiable again. Or if you had a bad experience, well you must have done it wrong or had a bad therapist. I think it's dangerous.

You're a treasure, Lucille!

Thanks for this! Will you be doing more videos? Hope so 🙏🏼

Love this video. Thanks Lucille.

Thank you for this video. I have asked myself this same question about IFS being cultish. I love your final point of "respect, not reverence". I don't have reverence due to IFS is not really an original idea. Freud talked about people have 3 parts to themselves and Buddhism has the idea that one human is many persons throughout their life, so it's not like Dr. Schwartz invented the idea of a person having parts. He did however create a newish framework on how to describe the human experience and a new vocabulary that has some utility in the psychotherapeutic context. I'm grateful IFS exists and have respect for the work that Dr. Schwartz and others have done to make it accessible, but there many valid psychotherapy models that also help patients heal. It's always good to have a variety of tools in the clinical toolbox.

I’ve been doing IFS for a years now and I do not think there is a set amount. I also don’t think is in any way cult. I agree it’s a good tool but it totally makes sense parts and our mind our self’s are only one that’s why I was so frustrated with conventional therapy super frustrated with therapy until I found ifs especially for ptsd . I do also agree not having to heal each part because that’s too daunting . Yes more relaxed heal a few and less of a list .

I agree! I am focusing on IFS, Jungian psychology and ecotherapy and find that they support and compliment each other well.

Thank you for this video, it's extremely helpful! I started studying Jung out of interest a few years ago. With continuing my self-growth journey, I came across IFS but didn't think much of it. But it kept popping up every here and there so now I decided to learn a bit about it. After a short intro video just minutes ago, I noticed the overlap in the parts with Jungian model of the psyche. By the sound of it IFS is an excellent tool and I will definitely study it and apply it.

I think it works better to combine things as well!!!!

Anyone use psychedelics for this?

Do you know anything about Loch Kelly's integration of Tibetan Buddhist practices of effortless mindfulness along with IFS? This seems one major dimension which is not so well developed in IFS alone. Here's a good video with Loch and Richard talking together.

Richard Schwartz, the creator of IFS, is a Jungian and a family systems therapist. As someone who went to a presentation of his as he was putting together the IFS model, I can see are using these two together would be very appropriate and helpful to clients.

Psychology is pretty culty as a whole

I find this incredibly interesting. I've always thought that there was a missed opportunity to talk about dreams in IFS. But Jung has this in spades. And i was also wondering how the anima/us and archetypes fit into play when it comes to IFS. All in all, there seems to be a lot more going on in Jung than in IFS, but the baseline for IFS is definitely there. It'll also be interesting to compare the Self in both modalities.

therapy is hit or miss, ive been through many therapists and I still have the same issues although my relationship to it has changed and I have more compassion with myself

youre a smart cookie and fun to watch

Good video with good reasoning. She is spot on re: IFS. It's a great tool... but it is a tool. When the house is built upon sand, IFS merely addresses cosmetic concerns on a house with a crumbling foundation. The foundation must be addressed or IFS simply becomes a process of continuously running around applying band aids, never really addressing the REAL reason for the problem. Biblically based Spiritual counseling in combination with IFS works well for long term positive results.

Thank you Lucille, this video was really helpful for me ✨🤍

Thanks for sharing this ❤ I love the dancing!