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This is a "contrafact" of "The World is Waiting for the Sunrise," so any Goodman records of that could be considered "covers." Jack Lacey's relaxed trombone is another height of this recording.

In comparison it doesn’t match completely, I think this could be George Baker rather.

Well do you know what’s funny? Most of my G&T/monarchs are in all good enough condition, except for the George robey I think. Though most of my monarchs and grand prizes are in this sort of condition, if not unplayable! The only good ones were from the mega collection and a trade, this macdonough though is from a lot a collector was getting rid of. 30 bucks for 100 records including 5/6 monarchs, in mostly crappy condition though, was amazing to me. This was close to a year ago, also the other monarchs are really interesting as well. One bob Roberts, the descriptive I also uploaded, a banjo duet by Osman and hunter, a duet with macdonough and bieling, and one by a guy called “C.H.H Booth” doing gavotte in a. Also the record in this video. Sorry for the jumble of text, also I tried to pm you today but was occupied until now. Like you said before we should call one day.

Good to know, it’s always a challenge to find the second half of these duets (Harry Cove always being there and then the second half is swapped between Will Terry, Charman, Osborn or something like that). I usually do these at 76 or 78, from labels like this and Arrow they used lots of Beka masters though I haven’t really seen any of these on Beka. Not at all doubting or saying you’re wrong (because you aren’t at all) but that find it interesting these were on Beka but I’ve only seen these records on these other labels.

Thanks! It was known that invicta used some German recordings so that does make sense.

At first I didn’t really agree but looking back now I do remember thinking the same thing, because when I’ve found these blue label columbias in groups typically only one was a blue wax and the rest were black. So yeah it is a bit underwhelming to only find one blue wax out of a few.

Exactly, it’s a bit strange isn’t it. I like his different characters in his records, a good representation of music hall. He sounds completely different here, like Ernie Mayne in fact.

You’re welcome! I find Goodman’s groups decent from the beginning to the end, but more so with his earlier things as with most jazz groups. I wouldn’t say Columbia blue labels are rare but they certainly uncommon compared to the regular labels and harder to find.

Yeah that this was a really nice record that I forgot about, though the condition isn’t nice but every word is indeed unmistakable. A really turn of the century type.

Yeah really nice condition beside the crack and these things aren’t common. A really quaint and nice piece, ha ironic isn’t.

I certainly agree with you on the sound quality, recording quality and record quality varies too much for me to make an opinion on who did what better in this period! I mean that absolutely destroyed George Robey record somehow still played, but this zonophone is just glorious. Great quality and great song, so fun.

I forget about earlier Indian pressings so that was interesting to read that at first. sentimental songs are just great, they really get that feeling right.

Ha I just got this just because it had the Ernest Pike pseudonym on it, though do remember this was a year ago. This really is a nice record as all of the cast ones are, very romantic and bittersweet. Didn’t really think much besides that it would be uncommon, good to know and thanks!

Somewhat recently just uploaded an even rarer record of his, and it’s about the same but probably slightly better. I’m happy that most of this stuff is in good enough condition because I can’t imagine searching for better copies now!

Sure, I believe it is 7626. Mr. Hager is always on these early zonophones isn’t he. Also I found this resource which includes this record www.78discography.com/Zono12.htm, though no matrix for it.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow Thank you! Recorded in New York, approx. March 1907.

Should be Eva Bennie web.archive.org/web/20240613220236/www.gramophonecompanydiscography.com/advanced_search_results?artist=&artistAlt=&title=‘Twas+in+September+&titleAlt=&prefix=&suffix=&matrixNumber=&issueNumber=&recordingDate=&location=&filename=&other=&notes=&maxResults=1000,

Ah I forgot to mention both of those in the description but it’s easier for people to see it in the comments, thanks.

I have some bad news, seriously though thanks a lot for pointing it out. I’m going through some discs and started cleaning them with a simple process and the results are amazing, I could easily get rid of all of this gunk quite quickly. I’m going through my acoustic English stuff which you said you liked right, if so I hope that you enjoy them!

I quite agree, I thought the same but no obvious suspects so far. Perhaps the second of the duets from the likes of Fanning & Fortune, The two filberts, Hayes & Croft etc.? One of the people that accompanied Harry cove basically.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow His accent sounds a bit like Harry Bluff (real name Charles Leonce Bluff). The duos you mention are usually Harry Cove & Will Thompson, but think Jack Charman may also have been involved. Interestingly, both Harry Cove & Will Thompson were on separate occasions, the other half of 'The Two Gilberts' (prolific 1920's duo), the other Gilbert always being Fred Douglas.

I’m especially happy about how clean the transfer is without sacrificing the audio, though I have a suspicion the speed might be slightly off. Even worse I actually meant to do it but forgot, but it’s not all bad because I would’ve set it to 76 as with all my acoustic victors (so it’s that not far off at 78). Just looked it up as I didn’t know myself and it’s from the “Business as Usual” show which did sound familiar, so I did know at one point. I actually did bid on a copy of that Lorraine Columbia during the most recent Nauck’s auction but to no avail, despite getting the Nicoles lol. I planned on “finishing” my pre-1909 record pile for this channel but I’ve got a section of British WW1 and some music hall stuff which needs some exposure so that might be my next focus.

I tell myself that I only need the Victor 6 (with the orthophonic soundbox) and shouldn’t get any more machines…though a credenza would provide actual bass and so much more treble wise too (I think exponentially better in every way). Speaking of drum(s) and bass (clever right) that was a surprising break to me that he did in the middle, like damn! I shouldn’t need to use one speaker because both speakers are playing in mono, right? On the label it says recorded in Europe so I’m quite sure of that, though I thought Ray Noble was British? But I’m not quoting you on that. ruclips.net/video/XQup9s58AS8/видео.htmlsi=a2W39vMoOHMVxg8c, seems to be quite British.

Thanks, have no clue about speeds mostly.

I intentionally didn’t make a transfer because I wanted to compare the sound of both systems live, in the room. You’re quite right that this is a small room that is not preferable, though little can be done in my situation unless it’s modifying the room’s acoustics. Luckily I have tackled the issue of stereo as both channels are blended so that both speakers are playing the same audio (i.e. mono). RUclips also has the issue of lowering the quality of recordings so there is less bass and substance than on the original recording I took. In person at less than half volume (no sane person would play above half or 60) it is very loud and creates a great sound (in my opinion). I hope this answers your comment.

The reason there is no video for the machines is because I originally recorded both audio files for myself on voice memos (It’s more convenient than a video when recording or in storage, and it probably takes half as much storage as a video), and a bit later I then thought why not make a video. I made a slideshow because it’s much more concise and will take less time than me talking, plus it was also just to try it out for the first time. I’ll edit the title so it says “sound comparison” or something like that, thanks for the comment.

76 seems to do it for acoustic victors, I like that it’s in English because it’s one of the few operas I understand. Macdonough seems to have a quiet range as he did ballads, this, and popular. A patriotic that he did and I hope somehow turn up is him doing “Goodbye Dolly Gray” on 7” inch Victor monarch from around 1901, first time I heard him. He does a very good job here, 5 guys around right next to the horn with an orchestra behind them.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow Yes, opera is a tricky to follow if not in English, especially on record. With a well known aria, I can enjoy in another language, especially if its the great Caruso!

Finally, I was looking at EMG colonel vids and the comments mentioned and the comments mentioned that acoustic ones typically played at 76. I have very much enjoyed all the Harry Macdonough records I’ve uploaded and heard so far.

@@colonelbogeysfauxcow EMG Colonel was one of the most knowledgeable collectors I've known & had an excellent ear for speed. Sadly, he passed away shortly after his last upload. Long may his channel stay up, for the info we can all glean. 76 seams an unofficial acoustic norm once record sales became established, but those from the turn of the century seem all over the place! Here's a very slow early Climax from our friend 'Mac' ruclips.net/video/5Ql3Wn-tYjw/видео.htmlsi=a6CtP_iKKGAg4mOQ Think it still may be a bit fast. Early 'Winner' records were sometimes recorded fast, but with much variation. Think the 78 norm was settled on sometime in the 1920's

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