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Thank you, cw2a. My first experience with a 35, was my first deer 38 years ago with my Dad's Marlin 336 in 35 Rem. From there, I wandered away from the great mid-bore and chased velocity. I finally came around full circle 17 years ago, with the Ruger 77 Hawkeye in 358 Win. I have taken many deer with it. My brother took a large pig with it and since then, we refer to that rifle as the Ham Slammer. I have since added the Stainless Laminate BLR in .358. How do Cast shoot out of your 77? I've not tried it yet. As for the RL-10x. I can't take credit, as I read about someone else trying it. Be that as it may, I am impressed with the velocities RL 10 produces, however there is work to be done in the accuracy department. I'm getting ready to try the 200 TTSX with CFE223. I've read of some folks having good results with this powder. Anyhow, I appreciate you stopping in, and thank you for the remarks. Cheers.

@ Im a big caster and lead launcher. Yes I shoot lead out of most all my calibers. I have a video on "most" of my 35 cal rifle molds. I buy new occasionally so I have a few more than shown. If you would like to try. Drop me a email and we can arrange that!

Thank you.

AMEN!

This is a great idea, I appreciate the recommendation. All the best

Hi, thanks for stopping in and for your remarks. You are entirely correct. Everything being equal, both 150's would be the same length. Change in Ogive from tangent to secant would change the profile and thus the length and BC. Or change the nose and base profiles from Round to Spitzer, and flat base to boat tail would do it also. If you look at the TSX or TTSX, they are longer than their conventional jacketed lead core counter parts, due to their full copper Monolithic design. However, the BC's on the TSX and TTSX are lower. I would presume the flat Meplat on the TSX along with the relief grooves the bullets may have a negative effect on the overall BC of those bullets. I am not certain. All the best

Hey Sbeast, I've not yet tried benchmark with the 358, I will need to do that. Thank you for the recommendation. Did you put the Hart barrel on, or did they? Curious, as I am looking at a .358 Norma build. Wondering how they are to work with. I've got a 35 Whelen Ackley build done by E.R Shaw, and they were great. Very accurate and good price. All the best

@@358Outdoors I had a local smith build me two 358s on rem 700 actions with 22 in barrels , H335 works very well also but isnt temp stable . I wanted a 358 norma for awhile , but built a 35 short mag instead and it ran right with my buddies 358 NM with 2grs less of RL15 and a 24in barrel . We were both shooting 225 TSX bullets at the time , running them at 2965fps.

I've got my Dads 243 in a Model 7, that I was considering rebarreling to a 358, but I decided to keep the little .243. I presume the 35 short mag is a necked up 300/325wsm? That was another possibility I was looking at, but then came across a sweet deal on a beauty of a Rem Model 7 in 350RM. Not much a 225 tsx @ 2965 can't do, let alone out of a short action. That is fantastic. Cheers

Thank you for your remarks, because I had wondered if Trailboss was enough to use in the 358. Is it a full case, but not compressed? Thanks for stopping in. Cheers

@@358Outdoors cheers, I can't remember exactly what without checking my loading book but a full case 12-14gr gives 16-1700 fps with the 158 gr XTP's which works really well on thin bodied game, goats and light deer. I have also done a sub sonic load at about 70% capacity with a 220gr lead HP but the effectiveness of these is poor IMO. Caliber size hole with lots of penitration. Really just best reserved for plinking, head/spine finishing shot.

Hi Keenan, I have tried on 2 separate occasions to capture the TTSX in a hybrid gel/water media. I failed on both attempts first, went out the side of the media, the second penetrated out the back. As for premium bullet suggestions, I guess I would ask what cartridge are you shooting, and how far are you shooting? Some have suggested that the smaller capacity 35's you don't need a premium because the smaller 35's just do not push them fast enough to require a premium. That is obviously their opinion, and I respect that. I only have experience with the TTSX and the Nosler Partition, out of the 358 Win and the 35 Whelen Ackley Improved. Both performed wonderfully. This fall I am taking the 358 Win with either the 200TTSX or the 225 Woodleigh PP to Africa for a plains game hunt. As for the Hammer, I have not given them a try yet, but they are on my schedule to do so. I also have a box of North Forks, and a couple boxes of Hawk bullets that I need to give a go with. I hope to try all of these in the 358 Win, 35 whelen Ackley Imp, and the 350 Rem Mag. All the best Keenan. Thanks for stopping in.

Hey Tom, thanks for the comment, I appreciate it. Is this your first .358? Are you looking to load up to the 250's or heavier, or are you looking to load 180-225's? RL-10x is a great powder for the 200 class. I have not tried it with any other weight. I've not found a specific load that will give me an inch @ 100. Not that it is required, I just know the Hawkeye is capable of that. TAC is a great powder for the 225's. As for the 180's or the 250's, I'd have to go dig through my notes. For something fun and a bit different and fun. 45gr of Varget with a Hornady 158 Gr XTP HP for varmen. Cheers.

@ really looking at 200 to 225s a whitetail load in Pennsylvania

Wandering Dad, good find on the 94 in 375 Win. Thats a sweet rifle. What rifle did you find the 358 in? I'm sure you will enjoy it. If it were not for my brother getting me into it 35 odd years ago, I wouldn't have the nice set up I have today. It is a passion of mine and I hope I am able to pass it along to my Son and Daughter. So far we are off to a good start. I appreciate you stopping in. All the best, Matthew

I have two Marlins in 375! Great thumper caliber! Yesterday @ Cabelas I saw 5 boxes of Sierra 200g bullets! (For reloading) I haven't seen these on the shelf in ten plus years!!!!

Hey there, thank you for stopping in and leaving your reply, I really appreciate it. Yes, I am thrilled that we have the 7-08 in our safe now. It will certainly serve my son well over many years. Maybe one time he will even let his old man use it....doubt it. The 7-08 is great, but my go to round is the 358 Winchester. I have a 35 Whelen Ackley Improved that has a 26" bbl, that provides considerably more thump than the 358. The Rem Model 7 350 RM we have is also fantastic. But neither of them have fit, feel or charm of the 358, if that makes any sense. I hope you have a great week. MW

These are easily made from 308 or 7/08 or even 243 cases. Personally I like military cases cause they generally wont have caliber designation BUT know that will be of less capacity and book max loads could likely be too hot. Annealing can make this reforming easier. (I have a few videos if ya need to see this)

Hi JS, thanks for stopping in and for subscribing. I appreciate it. I agree with you in that there are better options out there for both animals. The intention was not to advocate using small calibers on larger animals. My intention was to emphasize the importance of matching the proper bullet to the game you are after and the caliber you are using. A secondary point was aimed at those that do not reload. That is, their rifles can be much more flexible if they were to reload, due to the many more bullet weight and styles not commonly found in sporting goods stores. For instance, when was the last time anyone has seen a 110 gr Vmax loaded in factory ammunition for the 30-06? Are there better varmint rounds, absolutely. But if that is all the hunter has, the ought six can be used for hayfield or beanfield woodchucks. That's all I was trying to highlight. All the best

Good morning and thank you! Sorry for taking a bit to reply. I really like the BLR's. Other than I will get a light primer strike from time to time. This normally happens if I am not forceful with cycling the lever. During our doe season here in MI, I had it happen to me on a doe. Thankfully, I had another opportunity later that morning, and the 220 Fury connected. Cheers

How did you like it? What rifle were you shooting them out of? They shoot well out of the Hawkeye, I have not tried them in the BLR as of yet. Cheers

@358Outdoors It's been years! At that time it was out of a Savage 99 (the newer 99s.... made in the late 70s or early 80s). They shot OK. But nothing to brag about. Average 2 to 2.5" groups at 100 yards. I lost interest, and never tried the loads in a BLR, Ruger 77, or any of the "customs" that I've had at one time. I generally use Hornady 200gr. PSP bullets in my current rifle. (a M77 Ruger stainless). Nice rifle! Too bad they don't seem to be making those now. I still feel their Hawkeyes are the best production rifles made. (when they make them!)

Thanks for the info on the 35 Rem. I was not aware the 336 had that issue with the pistol bullets. Like you, I am a big fan of the .358 bore diameter. First deer I shot 37 years ago, was with my Dad's 336 in 35 Rem. For the last 17 years, I have come home to my roots. My hope and desire is to shed a bit more light on not only the 358 Winchester, but also the effectiveness of other 35 caliber rifles. As for the 140XPB, that one was on my list to try. It made me happy to hear your report on that one. I will work with that one out of the 358, 35 Whelen Ackley, and the 350 RM. Thanks for stopping in.

Mornin fellers! This is not an "scross the board" issue with the Marlin 35Rem. I have two early 336 SC guns from early 1950's and they are fine. I bought my lil brother a std 336 in about 1990. He has same issue as you speak of. He wanted cheaper ammo at the time and couldn't shoot the pistol ammo I loaded for him. I switched him to my cast RCBS 200g and he was fine.

@@keenanhosking659 it is fun playing around with the different pistol bullets. Well honestly,this cartridge is fun with all weights. Are you getting the light primer strikes using a BLR? On occasion, I will also experience light primer strikes with the BLR I have. Cheers

@358Outdoors no I have a ruger 77 hawkeye frontier. I have been checking the shoulder on my brass and think I might be having the wrong headspace. Have you ever seen bird shot loads for the 358 ??

@@keenanhosking659shot capsules for .357 magnum should work for em right?

No, I have not seen the birdshot loads for the 358. I presume using the capsules used for the 38 special?? Sounds rather interesting.

OYIF, I super glue the base plug in because it will end up below the neck/shoulder junction and can fall out when given a light crimp.

How do you like your Norma? I have a 270Wby that I am wanting to put a 358 Norma bbl on. That will round out the top of the .35 cal collection. I would have to imagine there are others out there working with the 158's. I was wondering, without compressing Trailboss, if there is enough there to push a 158 class Cast out of it?? Oh time will tell I guess. Best

@@358Outdoors I am building a Norma aswell cuz I'm topped out in my Whelen. 158's in the 35W both Win SP and Hdy xtp fp shot like crap around 1.9-2k, Shilen 1:14. 200gn lead gcfp @2k give ragged 5 shot1" hole @75yd as well as 180 speer fp @2.5k one hole. My 22-250 Ruger #1 will wear the 358 Norma barrel soon I hope.

Hi JS, I was originally looking to do a 35-375 Ruger (essentially the old 35 Newton) but decided to go with the Norma, at least until I change my mind again...lol. The Ruger 1V I had was in 223, wish I never would have sent that one down the road. Are you going to use a Shilen bbl for your Norma? I have no experience with them, however it appears they are well respected. As for the XTP's I have not shot them out of my Ackley Imp Whelen. I am currently working through the heavies on that one at the moment. All the best

@@358Outdoors Good day, yes going with the Shilen 1:14 same as my 35W. I have shot lead, copper and jacketed without the degradation of accuracy that people are singing the gospel about. It just doesn't seem to care and have heard the 1:12 is not necessary for up to 285gn which are nearly imposable to find anyhoo, not to mention the 300gnr's. My goal is 225gn Barnes TSX @ 2.8-2.85k without whipping the Whelen. You will also find making brass with 300wm is fairly cheep n easy and since mine is single shot I am keeping the neck for 2.56"oal brass. My goals should be easy on brass and super fun to also zing 200gn TTSX @ around3k!!

Hi Rudy. Yes sir, I stand corrected. I didn't realize the Hot-Cor process was in essence their way of bonding the lead core to the jacket. I really wish Speer hadn't discontinued those, however the Fury seems to be a decent replacement. I used it this fall to take a good size doe at about 40 yards, then she made it maybe another 40 before calling it a day. Through and Through penetration, great blood trail. All the best

Hey, thank you for the information on the 225 TSX. I have not tried that one yet. I am still torn between the Woodleigh and the Barnes, for the trip to South Africa. I have lots of experience with other TSX caliber and weights. I also know Woodleigh has a stellar reputation in Africa. I believe it is going to boil down to whichever one shoots the most accurate. Happy New Year!

Well that's too bad. Then again, why endure more recoil when it isn't required. The 7-08 is extremely versatile and will do all that you ask it to, without the recoil. All the best and happy new year

Thanks for stopping in. How long have you had experience with the 7-08? Like I said, we've only used it for 2 years now. However, it is my boys favorite and it is beginning to grow on me. All the best

I've had it for close to 10 years have taken several deer with it.​@@358Outdoors

Oh that's fantastic. What is your go to bullet and weight? Cheers and happy New Year!

@358Outdoors I like the Barnes TTSX 140

Oh thanks Nickman, I know you love the 7-08. It's just one of those cartridges that do what you ask of it with no fuss.

@@jeffreyjohnson5092 I am starting to really enjoy the 7-08 too. I’m sure the more time I have with it, the more I will like it. I know my Son loves it and I’m sure he will have many wonderful years with it.

@@teggan thanks for watching, I appreciate it. Is there any particular subject matter you are interested in? I hope you have a great New Year.

@@joshuavillnave3804 hey you’re welcome, thank you for taking the time to watch the video. Like you said, the 7-08 is a great all around cartridge. Sadly great rounds like this are often overlooked for the newer, flashier, not as efficient cartridges. Thankfully there are many that use this round and hopefully more will be introduced to it. I think it will be around for quite some time yet. Happy New Year

Hey Happy Thanksgiving! Yes I would agree, the .358 winchester and other 35 caliber rounds are devastating. To answer your question, on this particular deer, yes there was a bit of meat loss in the shoulder area. To my surprise, the 200gr Hornady Spire point was softer than I had expected. That was a small deer, and the impact velocity was in the neighborhood of 2,200fps. I was not expecting that much bullet upset. On the contrary, I shot a doe at 168 yards with a 225gr Sierra GameKing. The shot was placed directly on the should as well. With this deer, there was very little meat loss. You could, as they say, "Eat right up to the hole" Anyhow, I appreciate you stopping in. I have not put out a video in a while. Life gets busy, however I will be putting some more out shortly. All the best and again, Happy Thanksgiving. Matthew

@ Best of the holidays to you as well. The .358 would be overkill here in. Northern Mn as my shots are under 100 yards, 30 caliber fare. With the .358 caliber, distance seems to be its friend. I like the lever action though. I just sold a few older guns and picked up the new Marlin 30-30. Midlife crisis at 71😂. Take care and blessings.

Hi RJ, I trust you had a fabulous Christmas and New Year. Man 71 is young, no better time for a midlife crisis such as that. I am sure you have many good years ahead of you with that 30-30. Of everything I've hunted with, the 358 is by far my favorite. I have more powerful 35's in the safe, but the 358 is my go to. Matter of fact, Lord willing, it is traveling with me to South Africa, this coming September. Will be using it for a variety of plains game. Blessings.

@@358Outdoors That sounds like an interesting trip. Good luck. The guns are in the safe and I’m sharpening up the ice auger.🙂🎣

Hey there. Sorry for the delay getting back with you. Ruger Scout in .358 sounds like a great combination. How long have you had it, and what weights are you pushing? Looking forward to hearing from you. Matthew

The problem I had with some of my handloads was 45-60% failure in primer ignition. They were brand new winchester wlr. I originally thought they were a bad batch. On further examination I was wondering about primer seat pressure. What is your experience.

@358Outdoors I've had my scout 14 years. I've worked some handloads and was able to fine factory hornady ammo a few times.

@@keenanhosking659 I am really surprised to hear about that experience. The only light strike issues I've experienced were with my Browning BLR 358, and that was a function of the gun itself, not the primer. With respect to primer seating pressure, I seat them so that the primer sits just below flush with the head of the case. Sometimes, it requires more pressure to accomplish this. If the primer pocket is not cleaned prior to seating, you are seating up against carbon build up, which i could see leading to a primer failing to go off. With the Ruger Hawkeye in 358, I've yet to experience a single primer failure regardless of make and if it was a standard LR or LRM. Hope you have a great Monday. Matthew

@3 58Outdoors well that is good to hear. I ended up pulling those round apart and then tried them with just the primers and then 1 or 2 fired. What is really interesting is non of the factory rounds have failed. I will rework some handloads and give it another go.

Hi Shawn, sorry for the late response. Fall time and kids sports, life gets to pulling you in 18 different directions. Anyhow, I do appreciate your recommendation, and to answer that, I have not compared it to the 200 TSX. That is something worth considering. Challenge I have is, I purchased a BUNCH of the TTSX's, so I should try to figure this one out. However, I will pick up some of the 200's at some point soon, and see how they compare. Have you had good experiences with the 200 TSX? I'd welcome any further hints or ideas as it relates to powder/primer combinations. All the best, Matthew

@@358Outdoors I've pretty much just settled on the Hornady 200 spire points as I mostly use it for Sitka deer. The 180 ttsx shoots well also and to the same point of aim as the Hornadys in my rifle. I'm also interested in finding a good load for the 200 tsx or similar weight Hammer bullet.

I agree with you, 300 yards with the 358 win is my personal cut off. Now if I am shooting the 200FTX, I might stretch that to 350, just because it was designed with the 35 Remington in mind. By the time it reaches that 350 mark, it has slowed down into the velocity range of the 35 Rem. Where I hunt every year, I will never shoot to 300 yards, more like 0-200?I am practicing at that range because our PH encouraged us to be able to reliably shoot at that distance, in the event a last minute opportunity may present itself. Most of the shots we will encounter will be close to 200, 250 maybe. I have not tried the Hammer bullets yet. They look pretty amazing and I am sure they would be devastating. One of these days I will have to give them a try. Thanks for the remarks and the suggestion. God Bless

LOL I guess we are not Finlanders, as I couldn't either without looking at the box. God Bless and have a great week

Stay with the sticks. Realistic performance. The 358 will work. Handloading is a must. This cartridge is obsolete unfortunately.

You're right, adjusting the seating depth is not really warranted. I do need to work up a better load, as I know this rifle will shoot sub MOA and this load @ 100 is 1.5-1.75MOA. I'm still planning on on the 200TSX for the trip, but I am really hoping I can get my hands on more 225 Woodleighs. I appreciate your comments and am sorry for the delayed response. Best!

Shooting with Sticks is far different than what I thought it would be like. Like the PH said, get off the bench and shoot from nothing but sticks. So that's the plan. I love the 358, it is extremely flexible with the range of bullet weights you can use. You're right, it is a reloading only proposition. Thankfully I have a plethora of components for it. When I was at our local gun shop recently, they had 16 boxes of Winchester 200grainers. They were not the silver tips, looked a lot like the 200 Hornady Spire point. Either way, $86.99 a box WOWZERS!! Thanks for the remarks All the best

It has been a while since I’ve looked. I just went to Graf&sons, they have .277 150 IB in stock. I don’t have any direct experience with the IB. I have a close acquaintance that uses them. Have a great afternoon.

Hey sorry I missed this. I used the Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading, 11th Edition. Sorry for the delay Have a great week

I absolutely agree. Do you have a favorite brand of bullet that you use? Thanks for the comment. Cheers Matthew

I can't disagree. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Especially if you have better options available, and you're hunting in an environment like Alaska. Like you mentioned, any of the Mono's are fantastic, decent expansion with superb penetration. I am also a fan of the Swift A-Frame, Woodleigh and the Northfork. With respect to caliber for big heavy game, I would say bring the largest caliber you can shoot well. Practice practice practice, load it with a mono of suitable weight. Then put the shot where it needs to go and go collect your trophy. I appreciate your comment and hope you have a fine evening, Cheers, Matthew

Thank you for the notice.

It is a fantastic cartridge that is extremely versatile (110gr - 180 gr .357 pistol bullets for varmints and plinking. 180 gr to 280gr .358 big game bullets) If you decide to get one, are you a handloader? Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the 358, I'd be happy to Cheers

I do reload on occasion. I've got a savage that's probably going to get a new barrel.

@@klees57 I know it's been a little while. Have you pulled the trigger on rebarreling your Savage? I hope you do and I know you will enjoy the .358. and I would be happy to answer any questions you have regarding it. All the best, Matthew

​@@358Outdoors not yet. I had to put it on the back burner. But I hope to get the project moving forward soon.

​@klees57 i have been thinking if I should do a 35 whelen or 358, whelen almost seems like it could be to much. A 300 yard gun would be great medicine for farm field hunting.

Hey there thank you for this, I'll put up a batch loaded that way. I know the 180 TTSX, was loaded to just fit in the magazine and it grouped under an inch. I don't have my notes in front of me but I believe it was in the neighborhood of .020. I do have a bunch of TAC, it is my favorite powder with the 225's. If I can't shore up the group with RL-10, I'll try TAC next. All the best

I agree, the 358 Winchester is one of many vastly underrated cartridges for medium to large and even dangerous game. Those that use it regularly understand this. Those that scoff at the stubby little 35, do so because they have no experience with it. I am thankful for others that shed light on the 358 Win, especially those on RUclips. There are some great videos out there that highlight the .358. It is my hope to add just a little more to the overall conversation. All the best

Hi Adam, not sure what happened. Last 2 1/2 days, I was down chaperoning my daughters field trip to Gettysburg. I am really curious what rifles you've used them in, and what has been your experience with them? Up to this point I've hammered a gel block and drained some water jugs with the Fury. Other than that, I've not done any accuracy testing with the Fury, however that is on my short list of items to get done here shortly. Thank you for stopping in.

Bigtrev761, thank you for stopping in and saying hello. Do you go afield with a 35 cal down in Australia? MW

cw2a, thank you for watching. I too love the .358's. Currently trying to put together a collection of them. I hope at some point, I'll be able to have a cabinet full of them. Currently 4 and working on #5 Cheers!

Hey sorry I missed this, thank you for the comment. You know, I shot my first with a 35 Rem and then over the last 37 years, I've ran the gamut with high velocity small bores, high stepping .270 & 300 Weatherby Magnums, to the big and heavy 45-70's. They all work, and they all worked well as long as I did my part. However, from my experience rounds that are .338 and over, that have a large frontal area tend to have much more of an impact when they connect. Any of your faster (relative term...lol) 35's like the .356 Win, 358 Win, 35 Whelen 350 Rem Mag. will cause animals to fall on their tracks or make it a very short distance after the shot. Anyhow, thanks again and have a great week.