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@@MrPavelvideo not only does the Aqueous wings look cool, they do not stretch and performance is very good. You can buy direct from www.famousfrank.de. 6m, 4.5m and 3.5m

@@mattonfoil I would love to to but don’t often visit the area

@@oscarmartingarvi 🙏, the best way to describe the Aqueous wings are that they are better than average at doing everything 😍

@@Foilracer F703. When I wing with it I need to use a 425 as the 399 or 370 are too small and I do nor have enough front foot pressure when going fast

@@stevefollis9454 I have this exact feeling. Did some further research and the 430 should be the best for low wind winging :) The 370 is way too small for winging.

@@donnelnunes when I have used it in waves, they have only been 1.5m so not so big compared to what some guys ride. What can say is that it is as playful as you want, yet fast enough to get you out of trouble if you need to. Yesterday I used it for kite foiling and it was also awesome for this too. If o want to slow things down when winging I use the ML 1300, which is a great combo with the ML 700

@@stevefollis9454thanks for prompt reply, is it also fast enough for racing? Really appreciate your input!

@@donnelnunesabsolutely, I’m sure I will choose it more often vs my ML 540 as our wind varies too much over a 2hr period so using the 700 will ensure I can get back up on the foil easily. Next week end I will do 3 days of racing so will let you know what I end up using and how I get on

@@ryodeo1341 this is also why I don’t use sabfoil anymore except for my Pumpfoil setup as the 1350 foil is ace

@@erbesnard ultralight v1 vs what?

@@stevefollis9454 Sorry v1 UL vs v1 normal.

@@erbesnard definitely there v1 ultralight has all round better performance (even in a 5m size). However I doubt you will find many that are still in good condition for their age, so would lead towards a v3. If a v3 isn’t an option then still go for a v1 ultralight. I think I may know someone with a few Hyperlinks for sale. Send me a message via messenger and I’ll put you in contact with him

Not sure how to define better, but here is a basic summary: Positives: 1: way better visibility (insane), when you go back to a standard wing it feels like your riding blind. 2: slightly lighter in weight 3: better valve inflation system 4: less prone to punchers from the handles when folding (this has happened to quite a few people I know who have north). With the Aqueous you roll it up 5: boom in my opinion is better than handles. 6: does not absorb water 7: possibly points slightly higher into wind 8: no sign of bagging out, but to be honest the mode pro is minimum vs other wing types 9: most stable wing I’ve ever used 10: bigger wind range (amazing power output/pump). Questionable: 1: max speed (seems the same for me) 2: roll up for air traveling (1.25m for the 4.5m and 1.55m long for the 6m). 3: over time may need to clean monofilm to avoid cloudiness (6 months in, no issues for me and never washed them yet). 4:windsurfing feel (I love this crinkle sound) 5: North wrist leash is better (light weight) 6:….. can’t really think of any more, I can’t see anyone being disappointed, they just work and are probably better than average in all areas of performance.

Your observation is 100% correct. It’s a technique I’ve carried over from Kitefoiling. If you watch any kitefoil racing Gybes you will see that you step forward into the second strap before down looping the kite and removing the original front foot into the rear strap. Obviously, it’s a bit easier with the kite as you have more lift. However, if you bear off very fast and hold the wing a little higher than normal, increased lift from both the foil and wing are achieved. In fact, I can ride >50m with both feet in the front foot straps. I’ll try to post a video of this one day.

@@stevefollis9454 50m? That's hard to imagine. Ok, I see you're slowly raising your wing as you step the second foot forward as you glide. Which foil are you using here? I imagine it would need to be pretty HA. As an aside, I have watched one million winging videos here and I can tell you no one is doing this. I have never seen anyone ride any distance with both feet forward on a wing foil board. It's a great move I think many would find of interest. Please do this video!

@@Fjordjumper I was out on my ML 540cm foil today and decided to see if I could ride with both feet in the front straps. I was quite surprised how long I could go. With my ML 1300, I can go much much further (will share a video of that sometime else (hopefully when the sun is shining) ruclips.net/user/shortsriM3psiG0uc?si=RYddnnqfKPgE6cB9

@@stevefollis9454 Haaaa. Love it! What exactly are you paying attention to in trying to maintain the balance?

@@Fjordjumper not quite sure what I’m thinking (next time I’ll try to remember). I suppose I’m just trying to keep the board flat and fast, feathering the wing to feel maximum lift through the harness (yes I’m hooked in, as too whenever I jump!).

🙏, Not easy at all! Hopefully I find more time to practice and make it look effortless 😉

Get the mode pro, you won’t be disappointed. Having said that, if you are buying new, then consider the 6m Aqueous which I now use instead of the 6.8m North.

Hey - thanks for the answer! I really appreciate! Never heard about Aqueous before - looks amazing 😮 - but for now I have to save some money and there are good offers for the Mode on the market.. Thanks a lot for your recommendations and I am looking forward to see some new videos on your channel! 🤙🏼🤙🏼

My favourite Sab foil for kiting was the 670 and 799 for wing foiling. Now I mainly use Milkes Lab’s which are in a totally different league

I could manage 45 seconds pumping off the foil. It has ~1200cm2 so not so big, but felt great on the wake and was told it is also great for winging. I still find the best pump foil/dock start foil for me is the Sabfoil 1350 ~1900cm2 and have done 7mins flat water pumping on it.

@@stevefollis9454 impressive. Yes i have the 960 for winging and waves but havent been able to get it going off the dock yet (im not the best at running starts). I can get the larger axis PNG 1010 and 1150 going for a min and catch wakes. The spitfire would be unreal on the wakes if i could get it going!

@@powis-tv8ln I would say it’s not suitable to dock start, unless you could run with it super fast 🥵 but behind the boat it was lots of fun 🤙

I was a great day on the golden pond

7 mins max ~1.3km, typical distance 700m/4mins (Sab foil 1350/399) (sabfoil P73 Mast) Groove 100cm pump board

@@stevefollis9454what is your weight please?

@@AndreyKuznetsoff still 70kg. I don’t find a huge difference between the 1350/1550 except a rock start which is super super easy with the 1550

Thanks for the tip, today I managed 2 standups after lying down. It’s still necessary to place one knee down on the board, but moving the hands further back did help 🤙

Yeah, as always the big ones are always off camera 🤷‍♂️

Never heard of these wings before until seeing your video. Are you pleased with the performance? Do you think the monofilm canopy will last better?

Aqueous wings are developed by Frank Rosin (Famous Frank) and Stefano Moris (Mikes Lab). The wings use mainly monofilm for the canopy so virtually zero stretch. They roll up like a windsurf sail. Very very rigid sail and as light weight as all other wings I’ve used. The visibility is amazing, they tack very good and after 2-3 sessions you fall in love with them. 6m and 4.5m which are powerful so you would need something smaller on very windy. I’ve posted more on Facebook Wing Foiling UK.

Brett, in the video I was on the Sabfoil gear, Alan from SUP North was on the Axis, you would be better asking him.

@@stevefollis9454 So weird.. I typed this up for another video from Foiling NZ.. but some reason it posted here. Not sure if i've gone crazy or there was a glitch or something😅

~14 kts , it’s a 75L

Here you will see a light wind water start. ruclips.net/user/shortsj6sBxzvooow?si=lA1twmDa3TuLZlmW

I’m not sure I would say that are “fashionable”, the people who have them confirm they can release off the water much easier than a shorter wider board. They are typically used for down wind foiling (not what you see the video). The problem with long boards is that they don’t pump as nice vs a shorter board. Also the extra swing weight isn’t everyone’s cup of tea either.

Length is speed, you will have less drag than with wide boards. These shape of boards will also be more common in short length boards because they recover and start earlier planing. Swing weight? That’s not a problem.

With the exception of pumpfoiling I’m now using Mikes Lab. Having a two piece mast makes no sense to me. As mentioned in the video, use both the locking pin and 2 screws through the base with the Kraken to ensure maximum rigidity is achieved. You also need to sand both your foil and mast, a glossy finish encourages ventilation. Send me DM and I can provide you with some tips on sanding.

@@stevefollis9454 Hi Steve, I'd love to receive your tips on sanding

I am a true believer of foot straps, I am in both the front and rear straps 98% of the time. I do at least 70% of my tacks and Gybes with both feet in the straps. I think I like the straps so much as I migrated from water-sports where I always used front and rear straps (windsurfing to Kite surfing to kite foiling then kite race foiling and now winging). My wing foil stance is fairly wide compared to other local riders, but much narrower than I have for kite foiling. The method I measure strap stance is from the centre screw of the Y strap to the front screw of the rear strap. For wing foiling I have it set to 48cm, for freeride kite foil I have a spacing of 57cm and for race kite foiling 62cm. For me a wide stance allows me to go faster, but perhaps this isn’t true for every one. I also love straps in the waves as it provides more stability.

@@stevefollis9454 that’s interesting 🧐 I will try to adjust my stance. Maybe make more sense to measure distance between 😅 thank you for your answer!

You can’t compare Mikes Lab with Sabfoil. They are simply in a different league. You won’t be able to find many Mikes Lab reviews as people who have them are very happy and have no need to tell others how satisfied they are. If you need any specific info please send me a DM l

I saw you feel the 800 is a better all-round foil than the 700 but more of your videos you are riding the 700. Can I ask how heavy you are?@@stevefollis9454

@@WillBecker I use the 1300 50% of the time, 800 20%, 700 20% and 540 10%. I will sell the 800 as I think the 1300/700/540 will cover most conditions where I ride. If I were to have just one ML foil it would be the 800. I weigh 70kg

Thanks Steve, I think I'm heading for a 1000/700 pair?? @@stevefollis9454

Corralejo

In this video I am using a Mikes Lab 700cm2 on a 72cm mast. I also use the ML 1300, 800 and 540. I find the best all round foil from Mikes Lab to be their 800.

@@stevefollis9454800❤ is perfect

What when conditions do use with the 700 versus the 800. Do you find them very different foils

Wind range is 8kts - 22kts depending on your foil choice. With my middle size foil (ML 800) I would use the 6.8 from 12kt - 16kts before thinking of dropping to the 5.5m. The board is made by Groove Kiteboards (fly Groove). It is called the G-Race America 75L. They also do an 85L version too. Their website is not up to date, so message them directly for more info or you can DM me too. The board is available with tracks or Tuttle or both and colour scheme of your choice. www.groovekiteboards.it/ fb.watch/nTrFvq0hta/ instagram.com/groovekiteboard?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

@@stevefollis9454 thank you 🙏

- There isn’t a massive difference between the Mode Pro and Mode, which is good as I really liked the the 2023 Mode. Having said that, every small change they have made is positive. It’s also worth noting that I did not experience any significant bagging out with the previous model and used mine quite a bit. - Power wise, it’s very similar. - It’s faster to inflate as the LEI and centre strut are smaller in diameter. - It goes up wind a little higher (probably because of the smaller LEI diameter) - Frame seems very ridged and canopy material is defiantly stronger and a little flatter. Negative: - The windows are not an optimal position, nor where the ones on the previous model. - I’m not a big fan of the valve connection as you have to pre twist the hose so it doesn’t pop off when pumping (same as previous model) - it’s a pity you can’t buy just the silicone seal inside the valve (these can sometimes go missing, so be careful when deflating). If you loose the silicone seal you must buy a new valve! - Too early to say at the moment, but with the original Mode too many punctures to the centre strut where experienced by myself and other users I know of (probably caused by the handle mounting plates pinching the bladder during storage/transport)

For large wings I have only tried the 8.0m F1 Strike and 7m North Mode ruclips.net/video/wB_ntoZ6FMU/видео.htmlsi=sIFHAwdAoK0opdLM and 7m North Loft. I found the loft best low wind wing out of the 3, yet still felt fine in 17kts of wind. I think your board choice/design and foil choice will be more important than which brand of 8m wing you go for. The 8m North Loft will be amazing but unless you have a decent foil and board you may not see the benefit.

⁠@@stevefollis9454thanks! I have a board with 138L and a big 2200 frontwing. So that should work. Nice Videos btw thanks!🙂

@@a.n5414 you should be able to drop down to 120L (weight in kg x 1.1 = perfect board size for all round foiling). Regarding front foil you may find the 2200 a bit tricky to control, possibly something closer to 1750 will be better. Enjoy and let us know how you get on 🤙

It’s the same a dedicated groove pump but with inserts so straps can be added and used for kite foiling. Size is 100x43cm. The groove skate is thicker and has more rocker. I find the dedicated pump board 30% better/easier for pump foiling vs the skate.

@@stevefollis9454 thanks 👊

800 Mikes Lab Foil on a 75cm Mast

Depends how big your bank account is 🤣

@@stevefollis9454 🥶 what do you do for a living?

I also have the new 6.8 mode pro which I suppose replaces the 7.0 mode and not the 7.0 Loft you see in this video which belongs to my friend. The loft is definitely lighter and feels smaller than the 7.0 mode. The Loft seems to generate more apparent wind but expect the 6.8 to be even better (will try it asap). The Loft does not flutter when overpowered and has a huge wind range but so does the Mode. The Mode 7.0 is still a very good wing and have won more races on that wing vs any other wing. The loft does have a different sweet spot for tacking, but got use to it after 10mins. I expect the new Mode Prob 6.8 to be better for racing vs the Loft, but if I just wanted a light wind wing machine I would choose the Loft.

@@stevefollis9454 thank you for response 🙌 I bought Loft 8m but never used Mode. With possible future board upgrade Kind of downwind style, I’m thinking about what maximum wing I need for light winds in 10 knots. Currently my minimum is about 13 knots with loft pro 8m. With 5.0 98l seeks v2 and ma1200