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Indeed, fantastic headphones that sometimes don't receive the appreciation they deserve! It's good to know my basic iPhone mic, without editing, makes amazing soundstage testing videos, lol.

The foam tips also do the trick on the ie200 to remove the sibilance.. perhaps 90percent of it.. shoutiness cannot be removed on the ie600 though.. the sound is simply too delicate and sophisticated to be messed with į feel.. even the foam tips removed some of the magic.. so some shoutiness on certain tracks is just the price ill have to pay for an otherwise very unique and engaging sound..

That's a great question! While I haven't tried them in pre-amp mode, I can say that the 8300A is definitely a noticeable upgrade compared to the 6000A. It stands to reason that the pre-amp section would also be improved. However, without actually hearing them myself, I can't say for certain.

Thank you for your kind words regarding my reviews of the 8300-series. I'm happy to hear that you're considering upgrading to the 8300A paired with a Denafrips Ares 2. To address your question about whether the 8300A matches the musicality and engagement of the 6000A, I can confidently say both amplifiers have their own strengths and weaknesses. The 6000A typically offers a more musical and relaxed experience, while the 8300A leans towards accuracy and detail. Personally, I appreciate the more mature and resolved sound of the 8300A. Audiolab’s unique sound creates a relaxed sense of space and weight that I haven't encountered with other amps, ensuring musicality is present. It's worth noting that the DAC plays a crucial role in this musical element; the 8300A is a neutral amp that will accurately reflect the DAC's sound without any colouration. I use a Mojo 2 and absolutely love it with my 8300XP. In my opinion, the 6000A might not do justice to the Denafrips Ares 2, so I would recommend going with the 8300A. And then, of course, there's the speaker selection... I really enjoy this hobby! Ultimately, the best way to figure out which amplifier suits you best is to listen to both and see which one resonates with you more.

Thank you kindly sir for your extensive response, as an Audiolab enthusiasts I really appreciate this. By now I am in the process of making a purchase of a reasonably priced demo/open box 8300A model, so I am eally excited! In a month time a will leave an additional comment for future viewers. All the best! Gerlach Sven.

@@gerlachsieders4578 That is great news, looking forward to hearing your feedback about the 8300A! Happy listening :)

@@EdBenji thanks Benji

Hi, the Mojo 2 is far more customisable. The Gryphon bass feature is pretty special though. I think it uses an analogue circuit to improve the bass and it feels very natural. Not as strong of an effect as the Hip Dac as far as I can remember. IFi's xBass is well known for it's quality. The Mojo 2 sounds better all around, and it's a lot more adjustable, including the bass. Bass and power wise the gryphon might have a slight edge.

I use the Audiolab 8300XP, and it is lovely! The best sound ever: smooth, open, punchy, tight, and very engaging. I thought I needed new speakers but I actually needed a new amp. My RX1 has never sounded this good!r sounded this good!

@@PartySpock I’m fully used to the UI and I like it! The sound is amazing, and even better with an external amp! Nothing else I tried matches quite the level of musical engagement I get from the Mojo 2!

@@chrisrolandminall Hi I’ve had it for a couple of months now. It’s still available at several places here in the Netherlands, including Audiolabs own site :)

@@carlitosgomez71 interesting analogy with the motor world! Who doesn’t like old cars? Thanks for the feedback

@@dmitriygarcusha3399 happy you enjoyed the review:)

@@FranzVonFitzenstrahl you’re welcome! Let me know how it goes!

@@SirMesko Ok, Im sorry to say this...but I bought the 8300A. Sold it after 2 weeks. Very mellow, boring and bland sounding. Not my kind of amp at all...

What amp did you buy after your 8300a?

@@FranzVonFitzenstrahl I’m sorry to hear you were not happy with the 8300A. It’s true it is not a shout in your face kind of amp, and I imagine it could come across as mellow and soft. For me it’s a beautiful sound that takes me away in the music. What speakers did you pair it to?

Based on my experience, the 8300XP offers a significantly higher sonic performance compared to the 6000A. If you're looking for a smaller option, the 8300A is also a great choice, almost on par with the 8300XP but with preamp features. Please remember neither the 8300A or the 8300XP have digital inputs, like the 6000A

I was running the 6000a in preamp mode with the xp and In a bi amp configuration for a while, the XP is two tiers above the 6000a in sound quality, it would drive most speakers with no effort and produce a beautiful, clear and low distortion sound. I would definitely buy the XP with the 6000a as an upgrade, especially if you can get a discount from your dealer

@carlitosgomez71 thank you. I did get a 3rd off the price at the dealer . And yes it sounds great am very happy with this setup 👍

Hey, you were totally right about the 8300XP! This thing is a beast! The sound is incredible - so smooth and powerful. And yeah, the build quality is amazing. It makes my other gear look flimsy in comparison! That's a cool idea about getting a second one. 480W per channel in bridged mono must be insane! I'm curious, what speakers are you using with it? I bet they sound incredible together. And yeah, I totally agree about old-school hi-fi. There's just something about it that modern gear can't quite match. Thanks for the welcome to the Audiolab family!

@@SirMesko I'm using whaferdale Evo 4.2 complemented with 2 rel 12in subs. They are part of the same sister company, maybe they where designed and used with the amps in mind for testing who knows? they are a great 3 way speakers, built well and sound excellent to my ears, they are good vfm, real wood veneer, double binding posts, curved design, heavy constructed large book shelf speaker's, bottom firing ports for easy placements to walls if you have little space in room and an Amt tweeter and domed mid range that is rare at these price ranges, highly regarded by many. You should review them and give us an opinion I think they surpass many speakers at double the price. 👌

@@carlitosgomez71 Thanks I might just do that :)

@@carlitosgomez71 The Whaferdale Evo 4.2 look pretty cool! I should try them! I do like the idea of a 3way speaker

Thanks for the compliment. I am glad you found it entertaining :) I'll make a note. I have had my eye on Rotel stuff for a while!

Good remark, seems indeed not available anymore...strange, they take away their best product 😅

Audiolab are bringing their new 9000 series which includes 2 new monos and preamp, they look tasty but power specs are less than than the outgoing 8300 series

I am very impressed with the level of control. However, it's not just the control. It's the presence, the smoothness and the gigantic soundstage! It seems your amp has much more power. You must be getting a lot of punch and dynamics!

Yes

If you like the Audiolab sound, I am confident you'll love the 8300XP!

I did stack the 8300A on top of the 8300XP for a few hours. However, that wasn't my intended use, so I haven't tested it much in that setup. For me, it was either the 8300A or the 8300XP. I'd like to point out that the 8300A does not have XLR outputs, so I'm not sure if it's designed for the 8300XP. If I didn't have the Aune S17, I'd probably use the 8300CDQ with the 8300XP in my setup.

@@robertwang7825 There is no doubt they are good speakers, and better equipment, especially a good sub, I have no doubt the sound would improve. It could have been a combination of factors but in the end I my heart was not sold and I could not fall in love with the sound from them on my setup. The Monitor Audio Silver RX1, though, what a little star of a speaker! Makes me very interested to explore their latest speakers :)

@@SirMesko I originally had them paired with a Sim Audio Moon class AB amp and a Matrix DAC , it was ok but not excellent , then I got the Denafrips Pontus 2 and Iris DDC , it was way better. Then I got the Willsenton R8 Class A tube SET amp with rolled tubes then that was game changing. Later I got the Eversolo A6 ME as streamer and that also made a huge difference esp with the Ifi LaN Silencer. Ofc with the Rel sub much needed. Well I have been looking at Monitor Audio spkrs but I want something even more sensitive. For it sounds fine. But it can’t go above 90dB atm.

@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh 1049 for the 8300A, 1099 for the 8300XP and 899 for the topping.

@@SirMesko thank you. Only to get a perspective. Would be nice if you could try the Nilai, seems like a very well regarded amp.

@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh the Audiolabs retail price is a bit higher than what I paid for them, I believe around €1200-1300. So they are a fair bit more expensive than the Topping, however, to my ears the price premium is worth it.

@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Nilai, let me investigate

@@SirMesko i can find la90d for 718 right now. Besides topping gear often goes on sale. Doesn't seem like a fair fight anyway. Unless you use 2 of them 😅 Nilai is an amp based on hypex modules, you can even find it diy and there are different builds from different brands.

but audiolab doesn't sound sexy