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There is still an input buffer but its been altered from Ultimates. iirc there's still 4-5 frames of input buffer but no hold buffer.

@@automagic_fgc Thanks. I have one more question: How broken is the AI from level 9 CPUs due to this mod? Typically they can find combos but is that completely broken in HDR from your experience?

@@peamut547 AI hasnt really been touched from what I know so some characters are pretty strong and some forgot how to recover. Its something planned but not a priority rn

From what I understand, they are more based off of the Marvel vs Capcom iterations. It makes them feel unique from other characters so I think its pretty interesting.

Yea

I miss it already :(

And ill do it again

deserved

Bomb Rush Cyberfunk. I had to look it up cause it looks dope

Bomb Rush Cyberfunk, super cool game, I highly recommend checking it out

It took like 20 minutes 😭

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

Weird comment to leave on this video specifically. I think if you don't appreciate the level of depth added to a game by giving more movement options (both offensive and defensive) it might just not be for you, but most people appreciate that

@@reganverses3003 No shit it isn't for me I just explained exactly why

@@maxieprimo2758 I don't think your reasoning (as in, your analysis of HDR) is great, but the "isn't for you" portion of my comment is mostly "I get what you are saying but most people who I have seen talk about this feel differently," which matters in the context of "this is a video that's explaining the mechanics and a weird space to talk shit about it"

Thanks for coming!

Its important to know that every characters optimal dacus/dacds timing will be different. Sometime you want to do the inputs as fast as possible and sometimes you want to wait until the timing window is about to end. Updates that change a characters dash attack or smash attacks may also effect if/how a character can dacus

I havent looked into the code directly but from what I understand, the most likely case is it checks if there is any ground/platform within a specific range below the players ECB during an airdodge and snaps them to said ground/platform. This is regardless of direction so you can waveland onto a platform by airdodging straight up. I believe it was done this way to get max length horizontal wavedashes to be easily accessible like in rivals and slap city, but I'm not sure if upwards wavelands were intentional or an emergent consequence of how it was implemented.

I’d say project m. Don’t get me wrong melee will always be the goat but for newcomers its off putting because of the tech, limited character selection, and how only like 6 characters are viable.

Melee has l canceling and tap jump is always on. Melee also doesn't have based hitfalling incineroar. So nah.

@@Amoro22 if you’re gonna come in with an attitude, then leave. melee has actual good online netplay, and fun tech that this video adds as a “mod.” None of which ultimate will ever have. The game is still played after all these years for a reason.

There's no L-Cancel in HDR

@@automagic_fgc Free! My boys and I wanna join you guys!

@@bluexco discord.gg/hdr

Its nowhere near as good as it used to be, so palus tend to save it for ledge traps. I don't know the mu that well, but spindash may also just break through it.

Thx for the comment! I'll take more consideration on the title cards for when I get around to my next video.

Happy to help!

It should be there by 2025 at this rate. Looking forward to it

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Funnily enough, going thru character changes was the video I had planned on finishing next. I would most likely break it up into multiple parts though. And I do agree that it is frustrating when people say 'just play X game' but that usually comes from a place of ignorance so I try not to get upset.

I hope so as well

I feel like you have to major misconceptions about the project as a whole. Firstly, it is objectively true that adding mechanics to an engine that offer new options in facets of play like neutral and punish game do inherently add depth, just by the pure nature that both players are allowed to make more nuanced choices. It is true that since many of the options added are movement based, faster gameplay will be brought out as a result, but that is more so due to people having more ways to play. What I mean is that if you look into HDR tournament footage, you will still see many slower paced characters doing very well in the meta. Faster gameplay is more accessibly viable because the new options allow it. I also would like to note that this does not mean that Ultimate is a shallow game. I competed in Ult for around 3 years so I understand how difficult competition in it can be, and how nuanced decision making has to be to succeed. However Ultimates depth comes almost entirely from its mindgame aspect (prevalent in all competitive games) than any system within it. Ultimate was made to be as accessible as possible to as many people as possible by streamlining many classic parts of smash (shield drops, for example). Secondly, HDR is not trying to be Melee or PM again. I understand that it is very easy to see it that way, and even I liken it to PM when explaining it to newcomers, but HDR's main philosophy is to create a collage of the best aspects of every smash game. The developers want to make every character the most enjoyable version that they can be, which often means borrowing from older titles. But even the characters that are similar to Melee and PM counterparts still vary in many key areas. Falco for example has his Melee style down-b and laser, but has a different up tilt and forward air. This as well as stat changes on other key moves make his playstyle only resemble his older counterparts on the surface level. At the end of the day I recommend everyone give it a fair shot. It may not be very similar to ultimate, but its also not very similar to any smash game. The devs pay constant attention to community feedback to make sure the game is as enjoyable as possible. If you give HDR a fair shot, and its still not for you, thats fine too. I can respect that other people may not enjoy what HDR has to offer, an would prefer a different experience. Not every game is for every person but as long as we are all having a good time then thats all that matters :)

Is this a copypasta?

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I like how no matter the smash mod OR smash clone, everyone agrees ledge trumping is wack and deserves the shadow realm 😂

I actually prefer it over ledge hog. Especially in HDR ,where recovery is non existent. Ledge trump creates another option. Characters without an attack are at a severe disadvantage with ledge hog. You can't really recover low without being punished. ​@@treehann