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@@staceymangham buckle up and put your ears on here we go.🙂🎧

Hi, Yes, absolutely. They would work fine in a room that size with a sub. The wonderful thing about them is that they are so small that they literally disappear, projecting an amazing sound stage.🙂🎧👍

@clickbeetle2720 No, I never got a chance to. Thanks for the tip, man. I'll check it out.👌🎧🙂

@raphaelmeillat8527 Hi, welcome aboard🙂 Now to answer your questions. You would have no problems being 3 ft away from these. They really are designed as a desktop near field speaker. I was reviewing them from some distance away, I'm sure they are not really designed for listening at that distance, but in saying that, they totally impressed me in the positions I had them in. I did listen to them up close around 3 ft away on some speaker stands, not on camera, though. They were equally as good at imaging and soundstage in close. They are as most small speakers are fairly inefficient at around 85db 1m 1w. So some good clean current from an amplifier does them no harm at all, but they certainly didn't fall off a cliff in the lower octave when listening, at around 75db as most speakers this size do.🎧🙂👍

Thanks!

Thank you, Paul.🙏🙏🙏🙏 I appreciate the not so subtle reminder to your fellow subscribers and non-subscribers watching these videos😂 As you rightly say, it does take a while to set up and film these videos. But I love doing it for you all. The community that we are building here on An Aussie Audiophile is very special to me. It makes me strive to improve every day.👍👌🎧

That stack audio video dropped the other day on that vinyl channel

Thanks for your considered comments. I have been lucky enough to hear all of those speakers that you mentioned above. The reason I'm calling these the best in the world is simply because of their price to performance ratio, and they are smaller than the others you mentioned as well. But I do appreciate your commentary.🙏🎧🙂

@shanestephenson8423 yes I believe that's how I understood your review; not best absolutely, but price-to-performance it likely is the best. The delta between speakers of the past to now (even five years ago), the expectation to what performance to now expect, and the moving goal posts of greater quality overall at more affordable pricing, has been revelatory. I'm stoked that the current era of audio is being exploded in fantastic quality and variety at almost every budget, and that ultra-fi/summit gear directly influences the very affordable equipment and vice versa. Thank you for the awesome and informative review of the Klein!

@TheOneInYellow Yes, excellent points you make once again. Yeah, I think the trickle-down theory really is something when it comes to hi-fi equipment. It's a great time to be an audiophile. 👌🙂🎧

Yeah, I agree there's something in this very inert stone or slate construction. It really seems to work.👍🎧👌

@@VinylLatte hang on😁👌

@carminedesanto6746 Hi mate, I've normally got my stacks 9000 for critically listening to my recordings, but these are a set I dragged out of the cupboard. They are Sennheiser momentums. I forgot they're not too bad as all.🎧🙂

@@shanestephenson8423 For relaxing listening ..Sen’s 650’s …for the more attentive listening …AUDEZE LCDX 2021 Creators Edition. Bryston BHA-1 Headphone Amp. Denafrips Ares 12-1 DAC On the headphone set up its streaming and cd 💿 😎

@carminedesanto6746 This man knows his Cans👌🎧

@ Take it the for the double entendre’ .. but yes,I like a nice set of cans 🤣

@@carminedesanto6746 you get the prize mate😂👍🎧

Thanks mate😁

Yeah, mate, I haven't come across anything that sounds anywhere near as good as these given their size.🎧🙂👍

@wh0tube Yes, they are as good as anything I've ever heard.

You know what? I believe you! There are millions of claims on RUclips about the best, the only, the last, etc. But, with people like yourself, you can tell you genuinely believe in the product you’re reviewing.

@wh0tube Yes I know what you mean there are loads of lofty claims out there to get clicks, but my integrity is everything to me at the end of the day I'm not going to say anything I don't 100% believe in. I've been lucky enough to hear a lot of equipment over my 35 years doing this, and for their size and their price, there is nothing out there better that I know about.🎧🙂👍

@staceymangham Hi mate, yeah, I'm just rolling a few tracks out to let you guys know that I'm testing the stabiliser clamp now.🙂👍🎧

@@RennieAsh yeah it seems like a good material to use.👍🎧

I don't change my opinion, mate, until something better comes along, and then I'll explain why it's better.

Stay tuned, brother. I'll have some floor standards in for review in January if all goes well.🎧👌👍

Hi Dan, let's go through your questions with answers. I measured the Klein's with and without the stack audio isolation under them on the entertainment cabinet. The measurement I quoted in the video we're with the isolation under the speakers. Without the isolation, I got down to 53 Hz with roughly the same roll-off -2db. When I had the speakers on the Wilsons, they went down to 58 Hz with basically a flat response (no roll off). I preferred them on the Wilsons, sacrificing a little bit of low-end extension because the payoff was a wider, more dimensional soundstage. It wasn't much, but it certainly was better. The high frequency response was brilliant, with no roll-off at 20,000 cycles. I agree with you. I think the secret sauce here to their quickness is their driver size and quality and the material the cabinets are made from. I did isolate the crossovers. There was no measurable improvement and nothing I could hear when testing the speakers in the room. But I would certainly decouple or isolate the crossover network from any potential vibration if I owned these speakers. Good questions, Dan .🎧🙂👍

Fantastic analysis, Shane! Much appreciated!

Or the cost in Australian dollars..

The recommended retail price in Australia, I believe, is $6,800. And I think it's around $4,000 US, but you would need to confirm that with Mikey.🎧🙂👍

@Shane The F&F SN70’s go for USD4500 (likely without stands). The Kleins are likely USD3000 (again without stands), but folks would need to inquire with the US importer/dealer who shall remain nameless. 🤣

Thanks for the info.

Hi from Australia. Fischer & Fischer is the speaker brand. They come out of Germany. 👍🎧

I’d recommend the F&F SN1000.1 AMT 4-way, tri-wirable, the F&F SN770 AMT 4-way, triwirable, or the F&F SN670 3-way, bi-wirable. In the US, the respective prices are $110k USD, $42.5k USD, and $35k USD.

@ problem with the 1000 is I must check my floor resistance to weight…

@ Yep. They are heavy.

I couldn't put it any better myself.

@awanderlustseoul I feel your pain of space constraints, as I’m similarly positioned. From the experience of OCD Mikey showing the F&F SN470’s and F&F SN70’s in the hotel room space at the Capitol Audio Fest in 2023 and 2024, respectively, he suggested the bigger floor standing speakers overloaded the room while the smaller monitors hit the sweet spot. I’m considering this F&F speaker choice as well, as I can’t devote too much space to my audio system in my listening space.

You make some very good points there that definitely need to be considered. I wouldn't rule out these speakers I've just reviewed with a small sub. If I were in that kind of listening environment, I would have no hesitations to go this way. You would have a lot more options for positioning. They really are amazing for their size. I haven't heard the SN 70s yet, but I'm tipping they will probably be slightly slower in their response than the Klein's, if for no other reason than the size of the drivers. I will probably have something the size of the SN 270s in my room in January for review, but I can't guarantee that at this stage. I would certainly not discount the Klein's for your consideration. My best advice would be to try and do an in-room audition of all of the speakers you're considering before pulling the trigger.🎧👍🙂

@Eric-q9n Hi Eric, I don't think they do but a little 8 inch sub would be perfect you want something that is small and quick so it can keep up with the pace of these little speakers, but a little sub like that would be all you would need for a full range presentation that would sound killer. I did talk them up with my 12-inch Wilson sub, but it was a bit difficult to get the balance right.👍🎧😁

@ramlord6669 Hi, I will actually be getting a pair of floor standards in for review in January if all goes well.😁🎧👍

@@shanestephenson8423 Yeesss man 😛

You are welcome mate, doing this review was my absolute pleasure.😁🎧👍

Hi Eric, yes, these for their size were the most impressive little speaker I've ever heard.👌👍🎧

@clickbeetle2720 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Thanks for your insight and commentary it's much appreciated.🎧👌👍

@ryanford495 Hi Ryan, I think you could fit 4 of the Klein speakers in one of the Titan Elite cabinets just to give perspective to the size we're talking about here. I'm a fan of the Osborne Titan Elite speakers. Greg uses timber in his cabinets, and he managers to do that with minimal cabinet resonance, but Fischer & Fischer use slate which is more inert and seem to have no cabinet resonance that I can hear anyway. That, in turn, seems to amplify the lower octave produced by that little 3 1/2 inch midbass driver to almost unfathomable levels. The Klein speaker is more coherent. It is extremely difficult to hear what is being produced by each driver in the slate cabinet. I think some of that is due to the independence of the crossover network. So because of those reasons, it is a more evolved loudspeaker.👍🎧

@@shanestephenson8423 Appreciate it. Thanks for the detailed reply.

@OrazCostanzo I'm not sure what you mean. Could you be a little more specific.

@@shanestephenson8423 Oh sorry mate i meant the link directly to where they are for sale i checked heynowhifi and i couldnt find them

@@willowwale2000 Maybe, maybe not.

@bradessendon05 Hi, yes, I have heard the SN 470s, and I will have some floor standards coming in for review early next year.👍🎧

@@shanestephenson8423 Will be great to comapare with the Wilsons.

​@@shanestephenson8423Nice!!! I maby planning to buy the sl470m. I have not a big room (24m2) do you think they will be to big for the room?

@davidpaabor1382 Hi David, Yes, I do.

@@shanestephenson8423 Cheers mate!

@wernerschroer6138 Where in that video did I say I had heard everything. I have heard anything that is comparable that is worth hearing that I am sure of. They are the best I have heard. They are worthy of an audition, and it's a headline, mate.

How about you prove that they aren't and give us a list of miniature speakers that have these credentials. Outboard crossovers very heavy dense slate enclosures top quality cabling that connects it to the outboard crossovers. Lastly have you heard any of Shane's videos demonstrating this masterpiece and -2 db at 50 hz in room speaks volumes. Shane's entitled to his opinion which I agree with and has the credentials to form this opinion and time spent listening and demonstrating these speakers

@staceymangham Thanks, mate. I had a feeling that headline might generate some pushback, lol. But if it gets more people to watch that video and go out and audition them, then I've done my job.👍👌🎧

Also have you even watched this entire video or just read the headline and drawn your gun out of the holster and fired

@KennysHIFIdownUnder1 Thanks, Kenny.👍👌🎧

Yeah, mate, it really does shift the standard now of what to expect from something this tiny.👍🙂🎧

@staceymangham Yeah, the yardstick is certainly changing.🎧👌

@georgecav That's awesome, George. I'm glad you tried it then.🎧👌

@carminedesanto6746 Hi mate, yeah, wonderful is the word.👌

@staceymangham Lol yeah, Stacey, I'm using the bottom part as a speaker stand with the Auva 100s underneath they're. The most expensive speaker stands you'll ever come across for a little desktop monitor like these things, but they sound amazing sitting on top of them.🙂👌🎧

@@Yanks9698 1st

@ernestporee3697 Hi, yes, good point. My cables are well and truly within the context of my system as far as pricing goes. It's one of the things that I often speak about.

@dragocelander6671 Yeah, I agree, Dan. I'm glad it's translating.👍🎧🙂

Thanks Dan🙏👍🎧

Yes, these really are something special.👍

Yeah, mate, they keep surprising me.👍🎧