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@@logicallyspeaking1780 you’re probably doing db2 too late if it’s whiffing

@@Prinzeprincess could u share ur replay with command input display? Or if u could tell how long in frames u r holding back after inputting df 3 2

Thank you!! Honestly demoting is part of the process. Keep going at it and you’ll learn a lot along the way. Pretty soon you’ll reach GoD too. Thanks for the support 💜

Yeah! Ask me something more specific though so I can be of more help

@@Prinzeprincess wich launcher should i use when, i am kinda struggling with when to use combos

@@Prinzeprincess and what does the korean backdash give me

@@derfussminsister sorry I’ve been a bit busy but I’ll give you a write up hopefully by the end of today or tomorrow!

@@Prinzeprincess no worrys

Gang gang!

I’ve been thinking about it. I just wasn’t sure if enough people would want one from me because of other guides already out. If I get more request it’ll definitely come sooner.

Thank you for this!!

Thank you! So to answer your question, let's start with the ewgf comparison. Kazuya's ewgf is a fast (11 frames) safe (+5) launcher on normal hit that has the added pressure from the crouch dash mixup. It is a high but you're not usually ducking it but when you do the recovery is quick. That being said ewgf is an amazing high reward approach tool. Oh and it chips. Nina's qcf1 is a 14 frame high move that is only +1 on block that only launches on counter hit. Nina doesn't have the threat of wavedashing and at high ranks everyone hard ducks Nina. If they see you going for the crouch dash input, ducking beats a good portion of her options. Because it is slower than ewgf, it is more susceptible to being punished. That being said, it's still a good move, you just need to be more intentional using it. Think of it less as a tool used to approach but more so as a counter hit/frametrap tool. qcf1 tracks to Nina's weak side (the left) and also at wall if the opponent presses after, you can go for 23 (guaranteed on counter hit) into throw mixup for pretty big damage and depleting grey health. Also this video is a bit older now and I have some footage that I need to upload as I've been changing up my gameplan and exploring more options (like using qcf1 a tiny more after I realized what I just typed to you). Hope this helps!

@@Prinzeprincess amazing in-depth reply - thank you! (Subscribed)

@@sorenvenlau5012 I really appreciate that! I’m glad I could help 💜

Sorry for responding so late! Life lol. But it's Shattered Dreams from Tekken 5

Keep going. I'm at Kishin with Nina and believe me its to hard but i struggle and its work.

Don't stop! You have to learn to like losing. At those ranks, there's still so much to learn. It will feel so much better once you put in the effort and notice that you're not struggling against the same people anymore.

This game stresses me out too lol. I've been so close to god of destruction several times but something tilting happens and I demote down. I've started to end my sessions once I get the lose streak bonus so I am not playing on tilt.

Thank you so much!! Keep playing and your skills will develop, it just takes some time =)

Thank you so much!! To answer your question, it really depends. What is your opponent doing, have you conditioned them, where are you on the stage, can they break throws, are they in rage/heat, etc... There's no right answer and a lot of it is situational awareness. For right now stick with what you're doing and as you develop more game knowledge, you'll be more prepared in those situations.

Just go for a grab or a launcher if you dont want to get heaps technical, its as basic a 50/50 gets. Dont talk about high/low mixups because they can just be entirely crouched, mids and lows/throws. Highs are for the frame advantage.

@@zackariahp1873a good mixup for moving in outside of heatdash is her qcf 3,4 (extend with1+2 on hit confirm) and her qcf 3. I’d advise learning her sidestep cancels too. One you use them a few times you should be able to land her wavedash chain throws easier as its a mindgame if you’re even going for a throw then.

But yeah dont overthink the run-in after heat engagement, they have no time to do anything but duck or stand block. So just have a launcher and grab in mind, 50% chance it works the first time then its a mindgame after that, ninas lows dont tend to go anywhere unless they mash

Yeah… I find it more consistent to whiff punish with db3+4 but I’ve been trying to use b1+4 more because it’s faster, so it’s been very annoying missing some punishes. You just have to time it really well now

Also the range is deceptively short because if you miss the first part of b1+4 you get launched so that’s something to keep in mind as well

Please do! 💜

When playing against Victor, I like to sit back a bit and observe how they play. Victor's gameplan is pretty one dimensional but he can catch you out pretty easily. Make space and let the Victor player come to you, block/step and punish the running move, block the sweep and launch, know what stance transitions are fake, etc. Basically just sit back and let them make a mistake and punish them for it.

Thank you so much! That makes me so happy to hear!

Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying the content!

Honestly it's just practice. I've been doing the loops since Tekken 6 so it's muscle memory. I was thinking of making a butterfly loop guide though

@@Prinzeprincess I would appreciate that

Thank you! Honestly, it's just hours of practice and even then there are times when I still drop it. You just have to keep at it.

GGs!

Thank you!!

Thank you!! I really appreciate it! The song is Jun Kazama (Super Ecology Mix) /Tekken 2 💜

Thank you! The moves I do change depending on the character I'm facing and how the opponent plays but in general these moves get used every match: df1 - really fast mid poke, one of her best moves df12~iws4 - after doing df12f, iws 4 is good at catching opponents who like to duck Nina's strings, very fast and only gets beaten by jabs ss1 - main wall pressure tool with cancels, makes opponents afraid to press because of mixup potential and potential wall combos, still good outside of wall pressure too f1+2 - blonde bomb is really good in this game, power crush heat engager and it's fast, use it as a read f42 - One of Nina's new strings, fast heat engager that is hit confirmable, can cancel the first hit into sidestep, also airborne so it bypasses parries, you will get floated by jabs and counter hit by lows so dont be surprised b22 - safe fast high homing move db2 - homing mid, a bit slow but counter hit launches, decent range, can high crush d2 - low that tracks a bit, short range, i like to mixup with db2 as the animations are sort of similar uf1 - orbital, safe, low crushes uf343 - can opener is one of my favorite round closers, very seeable though, use sparingly, can cancel into sidestep after 4 to make it somewhat safer df2 - 15 frame safe launcher, just throw it out as nina's combo damage is super high this game, you give up your turn but its not that big of a deal ws14 - catches opponents ducking in anticipation for the guns, you get a free follow up and oki, makes the opponent afraid to duck so you can condition for gun chip damage in heat db3 - somewhat fast low at least for nina 1+4 - looks linear but tracks a bit, good against evasive opponents (xiaoyu) db3+4 - my go to whiff punish b34 - hit confirmable, can combo at wall with db43 I hope this helps and is a good starting point!

@@Prinzeprincess Thank you <3333

@@ice_killer3055 Of course!

Thank you!! It’s much appreciated 😊

Thank you so much! So I watched a bit, and I can tell you're at the point where you need to study the game in depth. As you climb up, a lot of the stuff you were doing will get you punished. You have to be very intentional with your offense as NIna as literally everyone knows her strings at high level. I would recommend really going through her move list and memorizing it because NIna literally has every tool at her disposal, it's just difficult to know when to use what move but that comes with time. Also watch some combo videos and learn the hard stuff (butterfly loops and combos using db2) as the difference in damage and wall-carry between the hard and easy stuff is not negligible. Hayashida step is also more important now than ever. Set up some drills to do daily and you'll start to see progress; I would recommend at least an hour of practice each time you boot up the game. Simultaneously, you have to learn frame data for each character so you can punish effectively. I know this is a lot to take in and the advice I gave is time consuming, but I hope this helps if you really want to reach top level!

@@Prinzeprincess No I definitely appreciate all of it! The fact that you even watched and gave legit feedback is more than awesome, thank you! I’m definitely going to take it all in and learn. I definitely feel like I have a grasp for the game now, I just have to lock in 🔒

⁠@@deFINExGaming1 Of course! Can’t wait to see your progress!

Omg this means a lot! Your comment came at the perfect time. I really appreciate it!

@@Prinzeprincess 🥰i hope to see more from you

Yeah she's really hard and takes lots of practice. Nina is definitely hard to pick up but really satisfying to play. Stick with it!

@@PrinzeprincessYeah still working on her mostly offline. She’s fun to use. Would u wanna 1v1 someday maybe you got good back to back moves to add onto my own, if not it’s fine