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Rivals 2 - Is Crouch Cancelling Too Good?
Is crouch cancelling BROKEN in the Rivals 2 beta? Or are we all just bad?
My magnum opus. This video is the largest creative project I've ever made. It ended up being way bigger than I expected. It turned into quite the project - a video essay, tutorial, critique, defense, AND an ad - for Rivals 2. I think you can tell that I'm really excited about the game.
I hope that this was informative and entertaining. I probably won't make a video this long ever again, but I do plan on making a lot more stuff for Rivals 2! I also plan to stream a lot when it comes out :)
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0:00 - Intro
1:57 - PART 1: System Mechanic...
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Видео

Project M Tutorials: Lucas - Instant PKT2
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This used to be much, much easier in 3.02. The timing is now frame perfect in 3.6. Music: Super Monkey Ball 2 - Monkey Target 2 ruclips.net/video/mCVI95S1t9M/видео.html
122 Multimagnets
Просмотров 3,7 тыс.7 лет назад
I can probably do better.
Project M Tutorial: Types of Grabs
Просмотров 7 тыс.7 лет назад
There are several advanced techniques that can be performed with the three types of grabs in Project M. Here's a tutorial showcasing them, and all the various ways to perform them. I'm assuming that Zero Suit Samus doesn't slide when you do Grab then Turnaround because she used to have a tether. Likely an oversight by the dev team. This video was made largely in response to a thread I saw, wher...
Hyperquick (Hi T3ch: Tech Skill Entry)
Просмотров 11 тыс.8 лет назад
My hands hurt. Song: Flite - Dive
Project M Menu Tech Skill
Просмотров 9 тыс.8 лет назад
Kappa The perks of being a former Netplay warrior. Reddit thread: www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/4330cj/hyperquick_hi_t3ch_contest_entry_tech_skill/
Project M Tutorial: B-Turnaround, B-Reverse, and Wavebounce
Просмотров 10 тыс.8 лет назад
Here's a quick tutorial on B-turnarounds, B-reverses, and Wavebounces. Utilizing these techniques efficiently can make you extremely unpredictable. Use them to your advantage! Not all moves are affected by these techniques! Experiment. I suggest watching 0:30 and onward at half speed if it's too fast. Ignore the grammar mistake at 0:53. I covered it up with annotations. MUSIC: Amphibious - Chil...
Super Gourmet Race Bros.
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I don't even know. Matches were recorded on Netplay. Come join the fun: www.smashladder.com

Комментарии

  • @vivikins837
    @vivikins837 21 день назад

    i like to hold down

  • @TheFirstSangoTheCat
    @TheFirstSangoTheCat 26 дней назад

    Please make more videos like this ❤ Super helpful as someone trying to get into Rivals to see all these comparisons.

  • @ThatSkiFreak
    @ThatSkiFreak Месяц назад

    do you have some kind of fancy tool for automating the rectangle backgrounds for text and the motions, if so where can i get it xd. or did you just spend forever on it

    • @imHyperflame
      @imHyperflame 19 дней назад

      Nah, I just spent forever on it. A lot of copy paste + manual adjustments.

  • @OfLastingThunder
    @OfLastingThunder Месяц назад

    This looks like a proper implementation of melee mechanics without tracing everything 1 to 1. I'm super excited to have something to play with friends that hate melee.

  • @mariuswold8032
    @mariuswold8032 Месяц назад

    great video

  • @bobpie7
    @bobpie7 Месяц назад

    great video!

  • @dirtydard4870
    @dirtydard4870 Месяц назад

    Easiest way to think about cc is just blocking instead of shielding

  • @curse5697
    @curse5697 Месяц назад

    Excellent video man, i hope this game blows up when it launches, or at least overtime. The best platform fighting game of the modern generation.

  • @mattsheehan3604
    @mattsheehan3604 Месяц назад

    "hyperflame... Why does that name sound familiar" *sees lucas and gets activated like a sleeper agent as a hundred hours of pm combo videos flash before my eyes*

  • @Steak1ey
    @Steak1ey Месяц назад

    great video, I loved your Lucas back in the day.

  • @1times1
    @1times1 Месяц назад

    Bro came bsck from 7 years of dormancy just to talk about crouch canceling. Thats so base😊

  • @ramennight
    @ramennight Месяц назад

    Man fighting games get so crazy for the fast reactions and decision making you need at high levels. Makes the twitchy side of LOL look chill. I'm probably too old to get very good at Rivals 2, but its the 2nd fighting game I'm going to get into. Played some version of super smash bro's super casual when I was a kid.

  • @sunfire65ph
    @sunfire65ph Месяц назад

    This is so helpful, thank you.

  • @socialrhombus3288
    @socialrhombus3288 Месяц назад

    Ohhh so it’s like overheads and high or low blocking in traditional fighting games. That’s pretty cool.

  • @XGDragon
    @XGDragon Месяц назад

    this is too complicated for me, but I'm glad people care. I was wondering though, what if in addition to teching, characters also have a special tech that specifically counters techchasing? It would be a tech that, if no chasing happens, is vulnerable to any other move.

  • @ccs8847
    @ccs8847 Месяц назад

    i say this as someone whos only really played killer instinct, rivals, and guilty gear (and yomi hustle lol) as the only fighting games for a substantial amount of time, i just dislike cc conceptually cause being negative on hit feels AWFUL to me and i cant imagine it feels good to a lot of other people either, it definnelty is just a skill issue but i just hate the feeling of i

  • @punkypony5165
    @punkypony5165 Месяц назад

    Great video subscribed.

  • @jenniferjones9695
    @jenniferjones9695 Месяц назад

    His hair looks like a Lego peace

  • @environmentalhazard3478
    @environmentalhazard3478 Месяц назад

    If cc is removed when hit midair or by multihits thats removing a bunch of depth imo, just let cc be hard

  • @Dewkify
    @Dewkify Месяц назад

    great vid kudos

  • @scrapinator8898
    @scrapinator8898 Месяц назад

    its not rivals 1 at all so its not for me i just like nothing about it to close to smashbros for my liking hope others can like it!

  • @Ton1MOOSE
    @Ton1MOOSE Месяц назад

    You scared the shit out of me when you said you needed to talk about alternet universes

  • @akinoriade
    @akinoriade 2 месяца назад

    is there DI'ing in rivals 2 as of currently?

  • @ZeroJanitor
    @ZeroJanitor 2 месяца назад

    Easiest way to balance crouch-cancelling is to give every character Peach dsmash

  • @watotodile
    @watotodile 2 месяца назад

    This video honestly explains so much as to why I struggled with low percent combos as Wrastor when I first played the game. After playing for a bit I started to realize how to counter it, but off first impressions this explains why starting a combo felt so much harder without taking advantage of grabs, thanks for the explanation!

  • @AtomToast
    @AtomToast 2 месяца назад

    I am way too Street Fighter 6 pilled right now. My mind immediately went to crouching medium kick driverush cancel

  • @Lobooo
    @Lobooo 2 месяца назад

    wow. just wanted to say that this video was put together so so well and organized and this is the most gameplay ive seen from the game. looks super good and cant wait to get my hands on it. very very exciting. well done again on the presentation

  • @braydoncameron8122
    @braydoncameron8122 2 месяца назад

    very nicely done

  • @YangyChaddyDad
    @YangyChaddyDad 2 месяца назад

    Just fought you in rivals 2, You're nasty at button mashing :P

    • @imHyperflame
      @imHyperflame 2 месяца назад

      It's what I'm known for :p ggs!

  • @Kade503
    @Kade503 2 месяца назад

    CC and floorhugging are one of the many techniques that has given Melee and PM/+ the extra depth to still have an active competitive scene after so many years. It became OP in the last Rivals 2 beta and the knee-jerk reaction of people straight up calling the game a failure was just sad. It made no sense to attempt to change it mid beta weekend since as this video showed, there's a lot that goes into it. This is a beta that they are very much listening to the feedback and I enjoy being apart of playtesting and attempting to give feedback to try and make this become one of the best platform fighters, all while continuing to remember the devs are humans(so treat them like it). Saying you don't like something without going into any depth isn't feedback. Just claiming the game is trash or a lost cause, especially because you don't agree with their design decisions is akin to a child throwing a tantrum in a supermarket. It's obnoxious and unhelpful for everybody, take a nap. This video is a great breakdown of a very complex mechanic. On top of learning new things there was a ton of stuff that, while I knew of it, I didn't really know all the hows or whys of it so it was really nice to see that in-depth explaination of everything. Fantastic video that I hope will help people realize the how much goes into a mechanic like this, why people enjoy it, and that the dev team is taking advantage of the BETA portion to experiment and fine tune this into a great game.

  • @0NIONBUBS
    @0NIONBUBS 2 месяца назад

    Holy... By far one of the best Rivals 2 videos out there to date. I love the in-depth analysis you do and then explain further using your own experience. Just, top notch stuff right there.

  • @NIMPAK1
    @NIMPAK1 2 месяца назад

    I'm not a competitive player by any stretch so take my comment with a big BIIIIIIIIIIIG grain of salt. Personally, what made the later Smash titles feel unsatisfying to me is how long it can feel to take down a stock, especially with floatier physics and better recovery options across most characters. It can help make for a more fair game, but not necessarily for a more fun game. Having a good grounded defensive option certainly isn't a bad thing. That's literally what shielding is. But from the sound of things, it seems like a universal super armor mechanic that could negatively impact character uniqueness. Simply tuning the frame data is probably the best solution, though one idea I had would be to add a sliding mechanic. Essentially it's knockback that sends you sliding along the ground instead of hurdling in the air. Not only would it be a way to differentiate itself from shielding more, add more branching follow-up options for both players and give heavy weights a buff by making them slide less who should be more defensive anyways.

  • @freetory
    @freetory 2 месяца назад

    Is this a game for non sweats as well?

  • @luna-eu1gb
    @luna-eu1gb 2 месяца назад

    all i took from this video is that platform fighters finally have overheads and i think thats a great thing

  • @sabotagefate69
    @sabotagefate69 2 месяца назад

    It only took 5 seconds for the guy to prove hes a moron and doesnt actually know what hitlag is

  • @sabotagefate69
    @sabotagefate69 2 месяца назад

    Oh no there are defensive options that only work at low percent, sooooo broken. You sound like a whiny melee player and its obnoxious. Crouch cancelling is literally your only good defensive option other than shield or not engaging. Melee without crouch canceling would be garbage.

    • @sabotagefate69
      @sabotagefate69 2 месяца назад

      And then halfway through the video he counters his own point by stating the problems isn't cc it's trash hit box values. Gamers are wildly low iq

  • @Kalani_Boi
    @Kalani_Boi 2 месяца назад

    This is such a good example of someone who actually knows what they're talking about when it comes to platform fighters, and not just yapping and throwing out opinions.

  • @focusfernand0
    @focusfernand0 2 месяца назад

    the backer tournament today I think confirmed that they're currently trying to implement reason #3 from your conclusion, or crouch canceling only being active during the full crouch. I really like the optimism in your video, generally I have seen a lot of positivity, but the top level rivals community has thrown a lot of shade around

  • @menderbugg
    @menderbugg 2 месяца назад

    youre the goat

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN 2 месяца назад

    interesting

  • @yungratpoison
    @yungratpoison 2 месяца назад

    seeing a 3d rivals of aether game in 2024 after my last interaction with the game being oris release is genuinely the most unexpected thing i couldve thought of to see this year

  • @lordtraxroy
    @lordtraxroy 2 месяца назад

    also forget about the compettitive side just focus on casual first at somepoint i dont like melee players who are oppsessed with competitiveness to a point that any new game doesnt feel even finished or is just another clone from the start

  • @lordtraxroy
    @lordtraxroy 2 месяца назад

    hopefully this game is not an melee clone again and we see why melee clones fail lack of casual content that is interesting

    • @Kalani_Boi
      @Kalani_Boi 2 месяца назад

      I put in 20 hours into the betas and can confirm it is not a melee clone. Just borrows mechanics and has wildly different game design philosophies.

  • @GabrielLeClaire-ix2ts
    @GabrielLeClaire-ix2ts 2 месяца назад

    I can see how its a good defensive option to help stop spamming but wouldn't it almost makes certain parts of characters kit useless if you can't even pop an enemy into a combo until 170% damage, that is just ridiculous.

    • @GabrielLeClaire-ix2ts
      @GabrielLeClaire-ix2ts 2 месяца назад

      also speaking from a very casual and not very good platform fighting player, (and after watching the complete video and seeing that they are actually working on it) , if its so easy to do couldn't that lead to essentially a skill check or skill floor where you have to be able to deal with CC or floor hugging to have any sort of success online if you opponent if area then can just hold down on the controller during lower precents. All this is coming from a very uneducated fighting game background and merely questions on how it could negatively affect players with lower skill or those who have not played fighting games with this mechanic at a pro or highly competitive level.

  • @xSABRET00TH
    @xSABRET00TH 2 месяца назад

    take that shit out the game. aint no scenario i win neutral and get punished a good one.

    • @duffacy123101
      @duffacy123101 2 месяца назад

      You not really winning neutral if someone is preemptively crouching to bait you into hitting them. Though i do think it’s way too strong. CCing any attack besides a jab past 50 percent is crazy

    • @xSABRET00TH
      @xSABRET00TH 2 месяца назад

      @@duffacy123101 it should not be a thing. that is one thing i think rivals 1 was going in the right direction.

    • @xSABRET00TH
      @xSABRET00TH 2 месяца назад

      like a parry i can understand in a game like 3rd strike. far as risk reward its not exactly easy to do. aint really no risk in ccing?

    • @duffacy123101
      @duffacy123101 2 месяца назад

      @@xSABRET00TH the risk of CC is youre opening yourself to free damage, and if they space themselves with a safe move it’s even worse if you don’t get a punish. youre also open to grab and moves that break CC. They need to nerf it more but once they do, you will have to choose carefully when to CC because you could just end up opening yourself to a free opening

    • @duffacy123101
      @duffacy123101 2 месяца назад

      @@xSABRET00TH also in games like melee there are multi hit moves that do more damage and connect better if you CC it, so some matchups you basically are putting yourself at much more risk by CCing. So I wonder if there will eventually be the same in rivals

  • @Valnoir_
    @Valnoir_ 2 месяца назад

    It’s been 7 years…..

  • @gnice42
    @gnice42 2 месяца назад

    Multiversus scumbag here lol I know 2v2 isn't a normalcy in the platformer genre, but is there any plans of them incorporating a 2v2 matchmaking option? First time seeing this game and the skill gap seems like something I'd actually love to try with my brother who is a Smash genius.

    • @garf6748
      @garf6748 2 месяца назад

      There already is actually

    • @gnice42
      @gnice42 2 месяца назад

      @@garf6748 Good to know, thanks for the reply!

    • @duffacy123101
      @duffacy123101 2 месяца назад

      2v2 in rivals is gonna go crazy

  • @funstorm1789
    @funstorm1789 2 месяца назад

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY TRIED TO MAKE TECH CHASING NOT HAPPEN AS MUCH BRRUUUUUUHHHHAAGHAHJGAGAHAGAGHGAJHJH

  • @funstorm1789
    @funstorm1789 2 месяца назад

    I had hope but now im going to fugging commit not live cause all combos will be the same lame regrab to 60% FUKCKKKK

    • @garf6748
      @garf6748 2 месяца назад

      Uh he mentioned that cc is gonna get gutted

  • @funstorm1789
    @funstorm1789 2 месяца назад

    NOOOOOOOOOOOO