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Keep practicing, im an 8th grade percussion student and have my doubles at around 150-160 gotta keep up the grind

“It’s too hard and I don’t want to practice”

@@beezymeech exactly :))

Yeah I get the confusion. I think the real answer is just that it's a really compex technique. There's a whole bunch of different ways of playing doubles but experimenting with different techniques and exercises will get you closer to the sound and feel you're looking for. It sounds like you're getting caught up in how many different ways there are to play them but just focus on one at a time or whatever makes the most sense for you. Taking a lesson with someone in person would probably help as well. Hope that helps!

Yeah the left hand is super frustrating. It may be that you're holding the stick differently but technically people that play with traditional technique also hold their sticks differently yet the can get killer doubles going. You can experiment with different strokes but I think generally it just comes down to how much you practice them. I guarantee if you played through a book full of snare solos your doubles will get better no matter what. I'm still working on my left hand all the time though. It's a constant battle!

Yeah it's really tough to get used to and we all start where you're at. I think focusing on getting that second stroke in rhythm helps a lot. Also reviewing the part in the video where you just let the stick bounce gently will help you really get the feel of the rebound (at around 0:50). Since it's such a small thing to get the hang of, it takes some time. Just try to work on it a bit regularly and it'll get better!

If that's what works for you then keep it up! I never meant for anything I in this clip as "the only way" to do something. It's just general advice that I find helps. If you're counteracting the accent via other methods then I'm sure it sounds great.

@@rqdrums Thanks! Great advice you've given 👍

Thanks a lot for the comment. Glad it's helping you out. Keep making those gains!

Thanks a lot!

Thanks a lot for the kind words!

Hey, doing so makes it easier to make use of your back 3 fingers

I think I do that because as my technique has evolved my index finger mainly stabilises the stick. Sometimes it's pretty active but with doubles it's mainly keep control of how the sticks bounce. Not sure if that's clear :/

Agree

Wow! Thanks a lot. Glad you think so :)

I actually learned doubles initially with only using a push pull technique and it's a very useful technique for sure. I just think they're harder to get really consistent if you rely on push pull too much. Most classical snare drummers never use that method and they have some of the cleanest doubles around. But if that's what works for you keep it up! Everything is worth exploring

@@rqdrums Let me qualify fy this statement by saying I'm primarily a guitar player so I could absolutely be wrong. I found that practicing extremely exaggerated full stroke push pull doubles helped with the consistency part. But you likely already did that as well and still came to the conclusion that you did. But I absolutely agree with you, Ive found with guitar and drumming that the more techniques you not only know but can play fluidly the better your playing as a whole will be. I'll take this as a sign from the universe to beef up my traditional doubles and try to rely a little less heavily on push pull and moeller doubles. Thanks for the insight!

@@rqdrums Well I found this surprising and interesting. I was doing my practice on the kit just now and I actually stoped to think about what my hands were doing. And I realized I've subconsciously combined the push pull technique with the regular finger and wrist doubles. In other words they all fluidly interchange depending on what is nessesary for the grove. Sometimes it's full push pull and other times it's full finger controlled or wrist controlled doubles. But the cool part is the in-between of those. Ive got it worked out where there is just the tiniest bit of push pull because my hands are accustomed to that and can very quickly transition in and out of doubles that way. So it's like a very scaled down push pull with much more control of each hit/stroke. I remember trying to learn doubles as a beginner and they felt much clunkier and slow so I think I can stand by my initial comment that, for me at least, learning push/pull technique and getting very good at it significantly helped my regular doubles as well. So it's not limited to just the typical push pull stroke most people associate with the technique (very quick but with little power). For me getting the dropping motion of the "push" down really well has helped with all my doubles. Just like how we are taught the three main stickings as beginners then quickly learn to move between them fluidly depending on what the situation calls for.

@@michaelinglis567 Exactly what I feel like I do as well! Once you learn a technique and it really becomes a part of you, you'll just switch between them all seamlessly. Every drum/cymbal has a different feel so it makes sense to have to change how you're playing depending on what sound you wnat. It's a deep rabbit hole!

@@rqdrums Isn't 1.33 "#3 use your fingers" push pull? You don't show any other technique in this video or I'm not getting something?

> is accent. (hit it harder on the back beat). o is open the hi hat. + is close the hi hat.

Any practice pad by a reputable company I'm sure would work fine. This is an Evans pad but there's loads of other options as well.

O yeah! Your non dominant hand takes a lot more work. You just have to make a habit of spending some extra time on it regularly and be patient.

Glad you liked it! I think I was just using kind of bargain bin stocks here. Generally I use 5As for pretty much everything but if I need something heavier I use bigger cheap sticks that I dint kind beating the heck out of. I'm not picky when it comes to gear at all haha

Oops and the kit I'm using is Pearl Export series kit!

Thanks a bunch! This actually isn't my studio that I record in but it's a Gibraltar of some sort. Looks like a Gibraltar 9608 or something similar. I just like anything that is height adjustable and not too hard. Aside from that I'm not very picky. Hope that helps!

Thank you! Cheers!

A drum roll is different from a double stroke roll. A drum roll is normally referred to as either a buzz roll, multiple bounce roll, or orchestral roll. In those rolls you cannot hear the individual strokes and it becomes a solid stream of sound. So you can look up videos on those if that's what you're looking for. In a double stroke roll you can hear the RRLL clearly and they're played like that intentionally.

@@rqdrums Roll is roll....telling double stroke roll isnt roll doesnt make sense...You have multiple types of rolls...single stroke roll,double stroke roll, buzz roll ... but each of them is roll. Roll is consistency sound...You have to listen guys like Tomas Pridgen, Gergo Borlai, Benny Greb, Eric Moore or Dave Weckl how to play double stroke roll...I'll bet you youwill not listen each strokes. Doesnt matter if is double stroke roll or single stroke roll...what you say is fairytale...roll have to by roll. Mainly if you teach how to play roll....maybe if you say "fast double strokes"...but this is not diuble stroke roll

@@Drumchannel1 I wholeheartedly disagree and if you played what I do in my clip at an audition when asked to play a double stroke roll it would definitely be acceptable. If I thought what you're talking about was a necessary aspect of learning doubles, I would have included it. I urge you to make your own video so you can show the world the true meaning of a double stroke roll.

I've done that sometimes but if possible I much prefer trying to touch on most of the things I'm prioritizing every day. I find if I split them into two or three days I'll end up neglecting something if I miss a day for some reason. But I'm sure that works for some people and that's great !

Thanks!

Thanks a lot. Glad it helped!

The first tip focuses on rebound yes but later I show that using your fingers can help drastically. I also later suggest playing doubles on a pillow so that you're ready for any kind of surface. I mainly use fingers on surfaces like that personally. Hope that helps!

Thanks! Glad you like it👍