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extended, opinionated, and potentially not-so-agreeable thoughts as a player since EA playtest #2 (late October 2022): happy to hear OCE is getting some love. TL;DR - it's a matter of expectations and probably not much fun unless you're a masochist, or you're perfectly content just casually hopping on to goof with the lads, and lack any further interest or aspirations beyond spamming goblin dance or fart emote in a dungeon with reverb. plenty of good, clean shenans to be had. DaD creator perpetual cycle of frustration: want money 🦍 make wideo about "broken" build to roll die on riding the algo wave -> everyone copies, dumps gold into gear and starts running build -> same streamer and co. whine about the plague that develops -> class gets nerfed into dirt for the wrong reasons -> make another video for more market stonks 🔁 Dark and Darker is a niche game with enormous potential, it's Tarkov with a DnD coat of paint that is sadly restrained and suffering from back to back poor kneejerk choices, listening far too often to incessantly vocal whiners and streamers, and lead developers missing the first clue how to "balance" core class abilities and perks with respect to anything but 3v3 matchmaking, where people often spend more than full time hours going "alright fellas, tonight we're gonna tilt queue trios until our stashes are empty and we have to sell our bags, then go back to ratting in solos". if you are a seasoned player reading above and somehow convinced yourself you're any different, i urge you to please link gameplay clips demonstrating the absolutely gargantuan skill gap between you and the average buffballer trio in HR. i'll wait! important note - most players are solo, and do not have a dedicated 3man to play with every day, yet the game is supposedly only "balanced" within that context. i'm not saying it shouldn't be; there are still zero attempts made to mitigate the issues caused by this choice, shoving most new and daily solo players through a horribly steep and punishing learning curve. the alternative for most of them is to rat out of their mind or team with other solos, another highly divisive topic within the community. even in a vacuum where 3v3 dungeon crawling is somehow perfectly balanced, you still get third/fourth partied and a druid in rat form makes it out with all the loot after picking your kills clean. DaD gets so many things right and can be viscerally satisfying - but that is sadly not the average experience. it's an early access PvPvE game that lacks any reliable way to stratify and determine player skill level. most of your deaths will feel very gimmicky and helpless without offering many real lessons until you learn how to walk the walk, several hundred hours later. success in DaD is primarily a function of time played, determination, and adaptability at best. i'll touch on this later, but the HR leaderboards are a joke. demigod rank is an entirely lateral slog that makes you very little gold and mostly frustrated - most demigod aspirants in a bind resort to VOIPing "hey man, just farming AP i don't wanna fight!", since death destroys your progress. sometimes, successful extraction is a net AP loss because you didn't tap enough chests or kill enough mobs. are you willing to suddenly reroll and spam a new character specifically for one pervasive, overtuned build - only to enjoy a one or two week unchecked rampage? would you be willing to immediately jump in the tank and develop a counter to that meta? this might be the game for you. the amount of prerequisite knowledge and quick execution required to survive >50% of matches is staggering (unless you prefer to AFK in dark corners listening for steps, a widely prevailing strategy). it is highly contractive and feels very zero-sum in the beginning. you will be stomped by toxic sweatlords, shamelessly & often hypocritically abusing every unintended interaction, meta, and exploit possible - until you either join them or uninstall. this is the nature of multiplayer PvP gaming, once everyone managed to convince themselves they have to "get good" at it. DaD also likely competes for the worst new player experience within its genre - it sports very low TTK on average, it has moderately esoteric combat and movement/hitbox manipulation tech, and a core gameplay loop that's almost entirely predicated on player market crawling to sell stuff you find in dungeons - that is, IF you manage to survive an environment where most human combatants you face have played the game for hundreds if not thousands of hours since 2022-23. they already know all of your possible spawn points, how long it takes to clear certain modules, where you'll likely be in relation to them after a certain amount of time has passed, and know exactly when to stop making noise, listen for steps, and set up an ambush - unless of course, they decide to W key to your spawn room and emote on your corpse before you've had the chance to kill the spiders and zombies chasing you since you spawned. the corollary and most common strategy is "kill PvE fast, and never be the first to aggress" and it's unbelievably boring. the metas that have developed feel pretty bad to play against constantly, e.g. • "Door and Doorer" - the dance of slamming doors behind you on enemies in long (sometimes more than half the length of a match), drawn out attempts to find only the perfect window to engage, poking with throwables and bows the entire time • movement speed is king; always refuse to commit until you've spammed ranged enough or they get thirded. you see players? immediately 180, then W key through a route of open doors until we're confident they can be stomped easily • every fighter, rogue, and bard is just a ranger with more and better utility • every class is actually just a ranger until their hand is forced otherwise at some point last year, it became clear that IM's most prominent issue in development cycle is the inability to identify the problem in their first or second swing at it. this has not changed. classes will receive sudden, large, blanket nerfs and buffs to abilities & perks that nobody even uses, resulting in even more nerfs once the error's been circled red for them. kneejerk begets more kneejerk, more crying, and so on. there are too many obvious "mandatory" perks that are too good to ignore no matter the scenario. the class interface is bloated by the illusion of choice, and still lacks the in-depth training (and subclassing) system we've been hearing about since 2022. sure, you can try off-meta builds, and you might even make it out often enough for you to falsely attribute your success to skill. i'm not saying they aren't making a good game, i'm saying those responsible for creating solutions to shortsightedness don't draw conclusions from informed feedback, or play the game enough to know left from right in a PvP context. just so we're abundantly clear, this is an issue present in many other games and nobody's saying otherwise. such issues are more deeply felt and resented in games like Tarkov and DaD.

would be my DAILY GAME if it didn't make my eyes bleed (not because its bad its the fps.)

This game is unforgiving, but amazing when y start learning like LoL or Tarkov. The problem right now is that they had to cut A LOT of content because of the lawsuit.

the update was disappointing .

An unforgiving game for sure, but rewarding for those who persevere

Loving it, so hard so painful so good lol.

Not enough movement options, love the art style though. Voice is kinda annoying to and the dialogue is captain do right with no personality.

Amazing art style, and I might be spoilt, but just from watching I feel something is lacking - a depth that they are trying to incorporate with story perhaps? Not sure. Thanks for sharing though, good to see what games are coming out and if they're worth getting 👍

getting better? Are you comedian? lol

What is your favourite metroidvania?

The boss looks like a Nephilim, game seems worth a try.

Love the thumbnail.

Looks like some cool combat, and the graphics are superb!

This guy is awesome! Those orbs...super cool 😎

Looking forward to seeing the new monk!

How are you feeling about Vessel of hatred?

I discover and unlock the defect robot at 15:19

I like the animations.

I like McGinnis.

These kinds of design trends need to go, or games will follow that new one Concord. Like they made a character with a gunt or a gick I can't tell the gender of it. Looks like something you would aspire to be? A giant fat unhealthy blob, you want that for a partner in a battle? Or would you prefer someone fit and capable. Gaming fantasy guys and girls its not suppose to be reality, we play to escape that....

Ty for such a quick and straight to the point video man 😇

Yamato is getting a redesign.

Ranger looks good, but it would be a tough pick between him n elementalist 🤔

Oh my goodness, the football at the end had me in hysterics 🤣🤣🤣

Man, that was a rough match for the other guy - didn't even need the nuke 🌋

Well that was an army and a half on both sides! Nice match - GG

Hahaha! The en masse of swarming units was hilarious! Poor guy 😅

I think that's the first time I've seen you use Sandworms 🪱

Thanks for the upload.

"Pretty good comeback" 😂

That game was hectic!! 👍

"Now we're cooking!" 🔥 😆

Thanks for the vid. I miss the skits btw, they were funny!

So true😅

Love it❤

Ill re uplod this, the audio is terrible.

I hope I do not get gout again, I shall try and lose weight again.

Good job

I really did wait.😮

Yeah, you’re right, What a ripoff!

I want one!

Cool info, you make it look easy , I will try this! 😮

A shocking illness, extremely painful and exhausting.

It's hard to watch the actual gameplay now in my opinion. Before it was edge of your seat excitement. Such a shame 😞

Oh my goodness, what a nail biter. Imagine being the other guy on 8 health 😅

Helpful info, thanks for sharing 👍

Nice comeback and well played 👌

Those Melting points 🥵

Holy crap! What a turn of events 😅 Thanks for sharing, that was crazy!!

Youre a bit of a firecracker on coffee 😅 GG, well played 🔥