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Aloha, I would say a slight force over. You are just trying to get the disc edge up . Not try to turn the disc. So it would be 30 ft putt. 20 ft on force over, roll to flat last 10 feet hit chains. If you try to putt flat it just rolls to hyzer to fast. I have newer putting video and I'm going to be releasing my 7 video series prity soon . So look for them. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Thanks. Trying to keep it simple and informative. Aloha Michael

Aloha. Made a video will get out this week. The shoulder turn starts in middle of the x-step. Come into x-step, shoulders turn , leg strides out landing perpendicular, which locks in your coil from shoulder turn. Body shifts to front leg to make the throw. Then uncoil on release. Watch video because I think I got it explained really good. Need to hold your breath to hold your coil. Aloha Michael

Aloha, When I first started trying to putt harder I couldn't hit the basket. My form just fell apart. It really helped starting close then keep moving back farther. Aloha Michael

Aloha, I would love to putt a radar gun on the pros 30 to 40 ft putt. Would like to know how much speed they are getting on there putts. It amazes me on how far out they can putt flat. Aloha Michael

I think they need wind socks on baskets in Kansas 😆

Aloha, ya that could help. You would know what angle to set the putter on. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Well it's been tested in 20 mph here. lol. Aloha Michael

Aloha, This is just about using your putting style and learn to putt harder. When I first started to practice 30 ft to 35 ft my form was the first thing to fall apart. It took some work to get to putting harder and not having my form break down. I do have a putting series I'm putting together. Hope to get out soon. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Ya KCC is fun course but Poli poli is the spot. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Thanks . Michael

Aloha, Thanks Michael

Aloha. Ya takes some getting use to. But it will help you have better balance on your throw with the leg behind you. Shouldn't pole everything to the right as much. Aloha Michael

@DiscGolf101 I'll bust on that 12lb wall ball in the morning at the gym on one leg then 😄

Aloha, just be careful. Aloha Michael

@@DiscGolf101 I'll keep the bad habit for bending around a tree here in Emporia ks

Aloha, I drove thru your state two weeks ago. Nice looking state. From my car. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Ya it seems easier to learn something when you have a idea of what you are trying to do. But the throw is all about developing the wrist. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Thanks Michael

Aloha, I mess around with this all the time. I have noticed from a tighter grip I also get better spin on the disc also. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Thanks, I'm glad the video helped. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Ya it really helped me put straighter. Takes a little to get use to. Hope it helps you. Aloha Michael

Aloha, years ago I watched a video and the guy said " when I do everything correct, I can throw really far" I have always remembered that statement. But I find the smoother I get with my throw the better I throw .It sounds to me you are thinking through everything correctly. Aloha Michael

Thanks for your reply. I have enjoyed your videos and your insight and instructions. Your tips have been very helpful in my journey of improving my throwing skills.

Aloha Thank you. Just remember to have fun. Don't rush anything. It takes time to put it all together. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Thanks Michael

Aloha, You better inform all the pros they don't know how to throw correct. Also I don't teach throwing a force over as your main throw. I teach flat to hyzer. Flat shot your head is on top, you drive off back leg to front foot to throw the disc. Ask whoever you watch to do some hyzer videos and you will see you can not throw a hyzer from a force over run up. You need head on top. Aloha Michael

@@DiscGolf101 they don’t throw like you. Most of the best pros generate power with their back leg

Aloha, I have been playing disc golf for 19 years know. I know what I'm talking about. But it's all good. Thanks for watching and commenting. Aloha Michael

@@DiscGolf101 you’ve been playing 20 years and you can’t throw 500 feet. Maybe you’re doing something wrong??

Aloha, there was some poling done by a disc golf company on how far the pros throw there disc .on average. Think it was disc golf world. There data shows that only 2% say they throw 450 ft to 500 ft . 8% are 400 ft to 450 ft. 22 % 350ft to 400 ft. So by this data I am in the 10% of pros that can throw over 400 ft. Not to shabby I would say. 90% of people can't throw 400 ft. So throwing one time 500 ft into a heavy wind with a understable disc doesn't mean you have a 500 ft arm. I'm doing 400+ with my Destroyers like the pros. So I'm good with my arm power. Thanks for wrighting. Yes you can look up this data on your phone. I made a video on it. Take care. Aloha Michael

Aloha, So first thanks for wrighting. Sling Shot guy teaches (what is called a force over throw) . I teach this shot but as a specialty shot with a overstable disc. He is teaches this shot as a this is how you throw all the time. The force over is throw standing up right so you can get the outside edge of disc up to force it to turn to the right. Kinda like a anhyzer throw. Because you stand up right to make the throw your back leg will come around on the throw to the front. Being up right you can't stop your forward momentum. I teach how to throw straight. Or straight to a hyzer finish just like how the pros throw. This is your bread and butter shot, throw straight. When throwing straight your head is on top , shoulders rotate up. You are bent over this alos you to stop your forward momentum and leg stays behind on this shot. So we have two different shot being tought force over, me a straight shot. So ask Sling Shot guy to make videos on how to throw a spiked hyzer. His back leg will stay behind. Or try yourself throw a spike hyzer see what back leg does. I've been playing disc 18 years and I can throw my Destroyers over 400+. I don't need understable disc to get distance like Sling Shot guy. I hope this help clear up some stuff. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Just dropped 10 lbs. 215

I'm 25lbs lighter after the gym and disc golf,but this snow cramps my tree killing in Kansas till it melts

Aloha, lived in Oregon for a while. The cold finally tired me out. Moved to Maui. Know I'm warm . lol. Take care , stay warm. Aloha Michael

Aloha, so first you want front leg bent, or popped. Not straight. You want a athletic stance when throwing, leg has a bend. The other people doing instruction are teaching to throw a force over throw. On a force over you stand straight up. Legs are straighter. You can't stop forward momentum so back leg swings around on the throw because of your stance. This puts disc on a right turn out of your hands. Not sure why they only teach a force over throw. I have videos on how to throw a force over throw. Difference is as a specialty shot. I teach head on top, shoulders up on the throw. For a straight shot , or straight to hyzer flight. Standard throw everyone does.

Aloha, ya my bag is prity much set for the two course's here that I play. I really like the disc set up I have. I got my wind disc for are one course. Then I have my mountian 4500 ft level disc. I use to mess around with different disc but know (18 years DG) my bag is prity much set.

Wow so throw it more will break it in? Thanks man

Aloha, ya but once you get that DX plastic beat in. They are really fun to throw. Just don't throw it into a tree at high speed. That seem to be my thing. I have broken a few putters. Aloha Michael

@ it’s either gonna be the tree or the disc. Sadly the tree wins 99.9% of the time.

So true, lol

Aloha, my favorite mid-range is the Roc. Just a great flying disc. Aloha Michael

Aloha, So snapping the towel I am trying to throw straight shot to get the snap. That is why arm up higher. Never tryed snapping on a hyzer. My be I give it a l try. That is why arm is up, but there is no why you can round off the throw (towel) and get it to snap. I recommend doing a straight shot to do towel drill. I grip the towel just like a disc and hold on tight. Aloha Michael

@@DiscGolf101 I understand the concept. My point is, in your video, your arm is rounding on the towel pulls that do not snap. It has nothing to do with hyzer. When you keep the hand close to the chest and pull through the pocket, you snap. When the arm extends away from the chest and rounds, it does not snap. Just a comment. The theory seems sound, and I plan to try it.

Aloha

Aloha, Thanks. I'm glad the videos are helpful. Take care. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Thanks I'm glad the videos are helpful. Michael

Aloha, Correct if having trouble getting nose down. I watch beginners here throw there disc 30 feet up in the air all the time. They got to keep it lower to learn first. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Thanks Michael

Aloha, Thank you very much for your comment and I'm glad this video was helpful for you. I try to make explanations as simple as possible so it's easy to understand and implement... got a lot of videos out and more coming so hope you stay tuned. Best of luck with your game and excited to hear how you do. Aloha Michael

Aloha, thanks for letting me know. Ya I will see what I can do. Didn't realize this so appreciate the feedback. Happy new year! Aloha

Aloha Wilfredoriverajr, Thanks

Aloha, thanks! Ya so sounds like youre standing up too tall walking into the throw. Try the "athletic stance". So to walk into the stagger.. I would try starting by walking in slow. Make a deliberate step out. Also walk in with your head on top, with a slight lean. This will help you to step into the step out easier. Walk in with a bend in your legs. Will also help you step into the step out. Let me know if this helps! Aloha Michael

Aloha, So back leg is on the ground when you throw forehand. Sounds like a weight shift thing. When you run up x-step or just walk up to throw you need to make sure your head is on top or in front of your front leg. This will unweight the back leg and let it come around. If your head is in the middle you will have trouble because you are evenly weighted on both feet. So get your head on top of your front foot. Also make sure your front leg is open on the throw this will help you to spin on the balls of your feet. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Happy New Year to you as well. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Thanks for writing. I am glad my videos are helping you. It sounds like you are putting in the work and I think it's so cool things are clicking. If you ever have a question plase write and we can talk. Once again great job. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Grip it with the wrist down.Then throw. Repeat

Aloha, Thanks for watching. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Ya just something to pay attention to. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Ya no greatest hits videos yet. lol, Aloha Michael

Aloha, I like the grip it gives. Feels like I get a better release. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Ya that was a good movie.

Aloha, I have hurd of people trying to wear a glove. Not sure how well it would work. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Ya whenever throwing soft keep that foot. Makes big difference. Aloha Michael

Aloha, Even after all these years I still have days were I get up set at myself. But in the end you need to have fun. Let me know if ever have questions. Thanks for watching. Aloha Michael

also, when you coil, i have an issue knowing how far away from my body the disc should be. it sort of looks like your arm is tucked in close under the chin.

turning your shoulders creates more upper body tension, and keeps you from swaying.

Aloha, The old school word "reach back " it makes people think you just stick your arm out backwards on the run up. So they are not thinking coiling, body tension. The more modern word "shoulder turn" is being used because when you turn your shoulders you can't help but put coil tention in your core. So people do it by default. The better coil the faster you can turn back to the front. The front braced leg helps keep the tention in your body from the coil. If you spin on your front leg you will release the coil tention. Stand with front leg perpendicular, coil you'll feel tension then open front foot you you'll notice the tension goes away . Spinning is from standing up to straight. You can't stop your momentum if you stand up tall. Head on top you can stop behind your braced leg.

Aloha, So old school they thought arm down your body line. But you would hit yourself in the chest on occasions because disc is too close to the body. Today guys are about one disc away from body . So the throw is kind of a out to in throw. Out from body on reach back then pull under face to release. This way you don't hit yourself in the chest anymore. Aloha Michael

Aloha, the thing is by turning your shoulders You build body tension without knowing it compared to reaching back and not building body tension. Aloha Michael

Aloha, I think it's a better way of thinking about coiling. Aloha Michael

@@DiscGolf101 Seems to me keeping the disc close to the body and letting the stride give u the reach back and focusing on giving the disc spin is more consistent. Maybe if your an advanced player you can add a little extra reach back. Thanks for the tips and insight.

Ya I agree, I really like just thing shoulder turn . Then pull. Aloha Michael

Aloha, I will try to put more me playing the course this next year. I liked making that video. Thanks for watch Aloha Michael