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One scenario where you definitely don't want any lines on the sides of the boat is during wet reentry. Keep all lines to an absolute minimum. If you have a bow bag, you don't need a bow line. Good talk!

I just ordered the Anfibio TXLB+ self-bailer. Can't wait to try it out.

NRS has come out this year with their new packraft boats Nd they are all SBs at least the ones for ww.

Thanks for this video!!! I just ordered a Wolverine SB and was wondering today if I made the right choice or not. I got the SB for a lot of the reasons you mentioned and you mentioned a few more points I hadn't thought of. Additionally, it's nice to hear from someone with experience with both a decked and SB boat and how admit you are that you prefer SB. You've added confidence to my decision, thank you!!!

Hello, and sorry for my English (auto translation) I just browsed your word press and several videos! It makes me ask myself even more questions and your vision joins the vision of several packrafteurs with whom I was able to exchange (auto bouncer). It's a pity the exchange section on the equipment does not work. I will have a question, what is your opinion on the Packraft auto bouncer of the Mékong brand? Thank you very much for your involvement and help and surely see you soon on one of the French rivers :)

Thanks for the video !

Great video, what do you think of using a self bailing boat with a removable white water deck?

Thanks for the tips!

To prevent punctures and rips on sharp rocks and debris, a less inflated boat helps in those situations. My multi day trips don't want to include backcountry raft repairs.

Splash your boat with water before you start to paddle. This will help to temper it so you should only have to fill it up once after initially blowing it up. Also, watch out for the smnall round gasket that is located in the valve cap, they can very easily fall out and that will cause you to loose air over time.

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Which kokopelli raft is this? Looks sweet!

Thx for sharing! Didn't realize the tigh straps can be used to get back in the boat :) I guess this is safe to do from a boat damage perspective? :)

Recently got into packrafting and your videos certainly helped a lot!

Thanks for the video. I will follow this channel. Started packraft this year so I have a lot to learn. John, Norway.

cool video😎 beautiful creek, we were there in July, unfortunately we did not have so much water and could not go Guil, but for that we paddled Ubaye, Durance, Guisane and Iser... ...next time I come earlier in the year...😅

I have more like universal touring packraft (MRS Adventure X2) with no internal storage system (thought it will be more reliable and simple) and I have just two ropes on bow (both going from left side to right side) and they are little bit loose. I use them to fit backpack on bow (using one luggage strap) when using boat as two-person packraft (canoe style) on easy rivers. When I use it as solo packraft (kayak style) I put my backpack in front of me into the boat. I sometimes run some small creecks which are not really white water, it has like max. class 2 sections, but they can be full of fallen trees so I did not fit any rope on stern. I thought I do not need rope there and it just adds danger of being stuck somewhere.

Have them both, and I love my self bailers. Awesome for portages and scouting also. Probably won't go back to a deck raft again.

Nice Video. Greetings ronactive

That backband is the biggest hazard on your boat, kokopelli should be ashamed of designing something so completely unsafe that serves no purpose beyond being to cheap to put on a d-ring in the correct place.

When your paddle stroke is on the rigth side, you push with you left leg and not the rigth.

It is nothing to see...this video ist worthless.

One more thing, the holes on the floor sometimes get caught by stones and SB floors rip easier than without holes in it. But the materials are quite strong today.

I partly agree! Selfbailers are easier to handle, after falling out, which makes them safer and easier concerning wet-reentries. Especially for beginners, mid-level paddlers. But always keep in mind, that a Selfbailing Packraft will by definition be a little slower. Especially when breaking through bigger holes, or boofing you will be slower and will need more force, so I think the risk to get caught in a rapid, is a little more pronounced with SB PR. Always think about the drainage time as well. So I prefer paddling with spray deck in more difficult WW, especially with higher flows, where rolling the Packraft is the way to go after a flip. This needs some training though. In shallow, more easier rivers or when giving instruction course a Selfbailer is the better choice. Best regards Tim Current-raft.de

Thanks Mate!

I second the part where thigh straps slip away under the spray coat after specific manoeuvres (even with the 4-5-point ones). It was always a hassle, and I was happy to do without in a self-bailer. That having been said, no plus without a minus (more water inside= less flexibility in the moment and it can get a little chilly in colder temperatures as John has described:-).

Very satisfying listening to your comments. Keep making contents.

Finally!! I found very helpful channel as a beginner. Thanks a lot for the explanation.

6 tips thx :) great channel

Watching this video made me realize how much your comments made sense as I progress more into challenging whitewater. At the end of the day the self bailer is more versatile for sure having a WW deck Gnarwhal at the moment which is a bit of pain. I have a self bailing kit on the way and have removed and sold my deck. I live in NW Canada but I can see why Alaskans liking the WW deck.

@Caj Koskinen maybe you could weigh in since you have had your self bailer Wolverine for a while.

Great vids! Please continue!

Bang on, I have never understood the "cold feet" in a self-bailer argument either, usually from those who've not paddled one! The the self bailers.

Awesome man. Would love to see videos like this, but first we watch it at speed. Then, perhaps slowed down with verbal commentary and analysis. Thanks for sharing!

Is the back of your shirt attached to the packraft? Isn’t that a massive safety hazard?

Price, weight, packing size are another advantages of SB

Good stuff bud

What do you all think of SB's when the water starts getting thin and you start dragging bottom..TIA

Nice one Max ! With these travel restrictions Looks like we’ll have to wait until September to paddle with you ☹️

Thanks for taking the time to share the info., excellent analysis.

Well done. A single concept in a short video.

Nice ferry

What kind of knot did you use?

I’m interested in the best way to tie up a backpack to the raft so that it isn’t a hazard

Hi,where you go in the river and where you go out?

I do not doubt the advantages you mention. But how is SB to paddle? How is it to boof when it is half full of water? Don't you miss a whole lot of fun because you are not riding high on waves? Alpacka does not recomend the SB Wolverine for padlers over 70 kg, incl gear. This is why I have ordered the Wolverine white water deck. BTW the Wolverine SB is 200 Euros cheaper than the one with skirt at Packraft Europe.

Nice! Would love to see a longer video walking through the technique differences between rolling a pack and a yak

Thanks, Max! Love the enthusiasm. Perhaps next time you can show us a few examples in the water...would love to see this discussion while you float a Class III! You know, for educational purposes. Thanks for the video

Nice video! what raft are you using?

so silly question I notice your by yourself. How do you get back to your vehicle? Do you just walk back up stream do you have some one meet you? Just curious as im new and I don't have any one to go with me or to pick me up.