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I agree it's overpriced. Hard to put a price on something like this but I agree. I will say, it's built extremely well. The fitment is perfect.

@thetrailaheadofus it's just a piece of bent metal

Thank you for the words of wisdom.

@@thetrailaheadofus yeah you only used that in how many videos titles?...as said, laughable

Agreed. I still have no issues with their products. And their customer service is off the charts.

This one is the Khaki.

Ya, def was such a good song to hear live.

They were great, live.

@@lynnfarrell4166 I was terrified. Some of those drop offs were 2,000 feet.

That's definitely unfortunate. Are you able to reach out to Genesis? They also sell batteries on their site.

Thanks for the info. It was a mess for sure. A lot I wasn't aware of and had to work through. The pictures didn't do justice for how bad the threads were. Just totally gone. But I see your point. Hopefully, no issues moving forward.

@@thetrailaheadofus yeah man 👍 my metal cloaks arms wore out in 2 years. They sent my new tie rod ends no problem, but I got a terraflex set for free and found the alignment was easier to set and the joints are adjustable and replaceable (snap ring) so I keep a extra joint in case I bust one in the trail. The metal itself is forged and feels heavier then the metal cloak. I’m happy with both. And both companies helped me out with parts without charging.

@@WolfOverland Damn, two years? I guess a lot of depends on use. I live in Florida so use is light even on our Fire roads. Different story when I'm overlanding in the mountains. I was and still am, a huge fan of TeraFlex. I think I like the Gold Zinc on the MC just b/c I live in Florida with so much humidity and salt air. They seem to be holding up so far. But then again, I'm washing the undercarriage, regularly. lol

Yes, I wanted to keep the TF stabilizer factory, including mount and thankfully, it fit perfectly.

@@thetrailaheadofus good to know, thank you. I have the axle mounted style and purchased the tie rod mount to switch it out. I also got front and rear MC end links, MC track bar, tie rod and drag link. Should make for a busy weekend 👍🏻

@@camaroboi13 def a busy weekend but a good one. They do make the larger mount for the stabilizer as well. MetalCloak that is. Just in case…

@@thetrailaheadofusI saw tyat too but I also heard love of people preferred the TF mount over the MC mount. I got the TF mount on Amazon so if there’s any issues I can return it.

They were highly underrated. Amazing to see them in person.

@@thetrailaheadofus Twice, always an energizing show and spot on musically. 👍

​@@thetrailaheadofus there's nothing underrated about them they were in fact underappreciated.

@@tamparocks better choice of words.

@@thetrailaheadofus exactly.

Thank you for the comment. Being "this guy" I actually do know what ball joints are for and how they work. As I stated in the video and in previous comments, what I experienced wasn't something I had seen or dealt with and was very honest about not knowing how to resolve it. The shop I work with also mentioned not seeing this before. Oh well, things happen and in every video I post, I make it clear I'm learning these things as I go. It's my experience, my efforts and my mistakes. I'll keep posting videos. Have a great week!

Yes. I originally was told the Optima battery I had would fit but it wasn't even close. The Group 34 batteries are not cheap but fit perfectly. I haven't had any issues with these batteries so far.

Group 25 for the JL models.

NO complaints. The only thing I'll say is, I live in Florida and I knew the salt air and humidity would play a factor. The Gold Zinc has faded a bit, but I guess that's to be expected? Not sure, but they've held up well and still look great.

@@thetrailaheadofus So you can adjust them on the jeep with out removing ?

@@dunnoyolo2238 You can adjust the end nuts a bit to make sure your spacing is correct from driver side tire to passenger. And adjust the steering knuckle as needed.

I totally agree. I wish I could do more, especially with wiring, but this was a bear of a project and I still feel dumb about the mistakes I made. lol Thanks for sharing, I do love the system and setup. Any time something can be clean and organized, count me in.

Thank you. I was mainly worried about slipping while climbing in and out. So far, that hasn’t been an issue. Time will tell. I do need to go back in, on the driver side and rework all the wiring coming through the firewall. It’s been on the list of things to do and this install reminded me, it needs to get done. lol

I will say, from the events I’ve been to, ArmorLite usually shows up and has good deals at the event. If you decide to go this route, maybe catch them at an event?

I have this product and it does absolutely nothing for water. The outside sides don't come up high enough so rain gets underneath the flooring. Wish I would've just did spray on bed liner like I was going to do. Unfortunately I fell for the hype at one of the shows.

@@ScottyP82 Damn, that’s unfortunate. I live in Florida and sadly, off-roading here is fire roads which are all muddy and clay. Which is why I avoid them most of the time, but still. I had hoped the one piece design would allow for easy clean up and water control. Thanks for the info, I’m always interested in what others have to say about these things.

@thetrailaheadofus I too am in Florida so I feel your pain. I am thinking about maybe trying some kind of silicone on the low sides to help with this problem. The flooring does help with noise and heat just wish it did better for water.

@@camarofix thank you for the feedback. I personally am always concerned I don’t use enough when it comes to recommended lubes for the bolts. I don’t feel I over-lubed but at this point who knows. I still feel strongly that Florida humidity and the salt air where I live wreak havoc. I have this issue in several locations on my Jeep. It’s a constant battle. 😒

Thank you. Ya, there were a few spots I didn’t video as well. It had rained a few days before. Be curious to see it now, since we are in the start of our rainy season, here.

I sub’d your channel. Looking forward to future content.

Yes indeed it is.. lol

How do you like the Moog? I’ve heard mostly good things.

@@thetrailaheadofus the only issue was the drag link adjustment sleeve was faulty, the last 1.5” or so was not threaded properly (burred/flattened), so I could not adjust it (pitman side tie rod end) properly, stopped when I needed another 1” of adjusting my steering wheel. I ended up using the one from the Mopar unit I replaced, and they would not let me send that part back alone for a replacement, all or nothing, so I just said forget it and kept the Mopar sleeve on, works perfectly, just an issue with Moog’s Quality assurance process. It’s literally a $20 part, but they should make it easier to replace a faulty part. Other than that, a decent tie rod and track bar.

@@TheSchmed Ya, I totally understand. It bothers me when an industry that’s skyrocketed recently due to how popular overlanding has become, that companies are still being like this. I’m glad you worked it out though..

That is also my understanding.

@@thetrailaheadofus yeah, I put the front one in, got my rear one on order.

@@queensapphire7717 Awesome, can’t wait to see the results.

@@thetrailaheadofus yeah, like you by the ocean, a bit north though, Long Island, NY.

Thank you sir, for all your help. Glad you made it!

Thank you, that’s great to know.

Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback. It helps me learn along the way, during my build.

@@thetrailaheadofus good luck along the way! It’s fun to build it out the way you want it. I just got mine all buttoned up this week.

@@msmliars908 Thank you, I really appreciate that. It’s definitely a challenge in wanting to do it the right way, the first time. Add in, learning as I go… lol And that’s awesome. I’d like to see the build.

Thank you!!!

Thanks again, Sub’d your channel.

Thank you, much appreciated. Learning a little more each time I I get in there. Glad to hear a similar story. And yes, building my channel one great person at a time. I’ll check yours out. Have a great weekend.

Thank you. Still working on fine-tuning.

Hello Shane. I haven’t had any experience with the SteerSmarts products. I’ve heard good things, but can’t give an opinion on this. Maybe someone else can. I don’t think any of these brands are bad or not beefy enough. I had liked the TF (and still do with most of their products) and based on some feedback from friends, decided to go with MetalCloak products. And I can’t complain about any MC component that I’ve installed so far. Hopefully, someone can speak to the SteerSmarts. ✌

@@thetrailaheadofus people push the TF stuff, but to me, they are only slight improvements over stock. Would not touch them.

@@shanec.7105 I understand. I do think their Adjustable shocks are great. I’ve loved them since install. But, like I mentioned, I’ve been super happy with all the MetalCloak products I have.

Everything was so rusted and corroded. That TeraFlex unit didn’t make it one year here in Florida.

Hello, thanks for reaching out. I've struggled with steering since upgrading to the lift and tire. While I try and do one upgrade at a time so that I can see what differences it makes, in this case, I swapped the drag-link and tie-road out at same time. My JKU didn't pull as much afterward. However with my suspension, springs and rear track bar swap, is when I noticed a huge difference in steering. None of this stuff is cheap and while in my case, the drag-link alone didn't make huge differences, I felt more comfortable knowing I had done that particular upgrade. Hope this helps in some way. Let me know. Have a great day.

Are you calling the bottom hinge with provided bolt the knuckle? I mentioned in the video about it being drilled out.

@@thetrailaheadofus nope… but I figured it out. The drag link *flip kit* is what requires drilling out the knuckle. Now my link is inserted from the top, not bottom, keeping it more parallel to the track bar after having lifted it 4.5”… with no drop pitman arm. But yeah to flip it you have to drill out the knuckle. Felt like another “point of no return; full commit” step on my all-Metalcloak project, but working out well so far. lol

Sounds like you're figuring it out. I go through the same thing often. Thankfully, you've got it. @@DrJosh2

A few boar and deer. Cows don't count, lol. It was relaxing, had a good time. Not much water but a few easy crossings.

Hence my saying they didn't provide anything within the box. In my opinion, something this expensive should have come with directions inside the box. Thanks for the comment.

Hey there. Ya, I'm still loving all the MC installs. I have the Apex wheel valves and love them. They are so amazing. Thank you for commenting.

Just for some back-story here, the TeraFlex Drag Link and Tie-rod were installed by a shop.

Thank you. Glad to be a part of the MC family. Your customer service is amazing!!

Thank you for the feedback. I’m learning as I go and I’ve been so impressed with MetalCloak and their customer service, so far.

Yeah, they're a quality company

@@jedwheeler2728 thanks again. Always appreciate interaction on here.

I appreciate your input. I always struggle with what type of music, how loud and what vibe I’m going for. Also don’t like the sound of my own voice. lol It’s a real struggle. lol 👍🏻

It really is amazing. I try and go every year. It's always the week before the Rolex 24. Which I'm also attending this year. Definitely go if you ever get the chance.

I'm sure it's bad there. I wasn't comparing to anywhere else, just sharing what I was experiencing, living near the coast in Florida. I've noticed a huge difference since moving here.

Thank you. It's definitely a work in progress.

This is part of the Ocala National Forest system. After doing the Jeep Badge of Honor: Tread Lightly trail, we decided to go back and explore more of the area. Here is our start point that day. 29.146453, -81.631592

Thank you. Much appreciated. I’ll have to take a look and see what you are referring to. Thanks again!!