Milan Gravier Coutelier
Milan Gravier Coutelier
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A look at Kiyoshi Kato work and some comparison with my own work
I have the chance to look with my own eyes and hands two knives from the famous Fujiwara Yoshiaki, a Japanese maker, licensed sword maker and maker of kitchen knives. Here are some thought about it.
Be welcome if you have any comment or question to type it in comment section.
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Видео

Entretenir son couteau de cuisine pendant son utilisation. Une alternative au fusil ou au cuir
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En essayant de trouver une alternative au fusil et au strop en cuir, j'ai commencé à utiliser une pierre tenue dans ma main pour raviver le tranchant de les couteaux entre deux découpes. Pas idéal, j'ai donc penser à fabriquer une poignée pour tenir la pierre et travailler confortablement. Que pensez vous de cette idée ? Et si vous essayez cette idée, merci de me donner quelques retours !
Sharpening your knife on the go. An alternative to honing rods and leather strops.
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I just built this little tool to try another way to sharpen my knives while I am cooking. Let me know what you think and if you build one for yourself!
Instagram Live 08/08/2024 First grind on the coarse stones
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Here is the instagram live I made beginning of August about shaping a bevel with coarse stone. Erasing a low spot and evening the bevels shape.
Sharpening a Nakiri
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Here is my full process. I use a 2k nsk oboro stone to set the bevel here but I often use the naniwa pro 3k for that too. I then use a coticule, a natural sharpening stone from Belgium, and I boost it with a little piece of coticule to make slurry. I finish on leather with nothing. I cut a piece of tissue paper to test the edge. Ready to go! Don't over sharpen your knives. Coarse stones can giv...
Instagram Live 17/04/2024 A first feedback about NSK Oboro stones
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Testing mostly 200 and 400, comparing to Hakuto line, to Venev stones and to traditional whetstone Imanish 220 grit. Please if you have questions about thoses stones, type it in comment, I will maybe make a shorter video to summurize my thoughts.
Instagram Live 26/02/2024 : Polishing tips for using harder finer natural stones
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Here is a little live video about stone polishing. I am giving some tips to better use harder and finer stones that are less forgiving with uneveness of your bevel.
Instagram Live 22/11/2023 : Final polish on a stainless steel clad
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First time I use this cladding for on of my stone polished knife. Here are the last step of polishing those bevels on stones. I use natural japanese stones for finishing the knife
Instagram Live 07/11/2023 : Tutoriel d'affûtage à la pierre pour les couteaux de cuisine
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Un live instagram que je publie sur RUclips pour vous montrer ma méthode d'affûtage et quelques astuces pour améliorer vos affûtages.
Using Venev stones for wide bevel sharpening, how to make them cut fast
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I am using more and more venev stones because one of their biggest advantage is that they almost don't wear being super hard. But being very hard, they also can cut too slow and you need to find some tricks to make them cut fast on wide bevels where there is a lot of surface to grind at the same time. Here is few tricks I have found, please share yours.
Quick Kasumi finish trick !
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On a well shaped bevel, you can go to 1k very fast to a fine mid soft natural stone. Just clean the steel (because natural stone won't be able to erase 1K scratches) with a 5k and then clean the iron 1k scratches with the natural stone using high pressure. You may not have perfection, but you will get a very nice kasumi finish.
Coarse whetstone review! some advises for choosing a coarse stone to shape your bevels
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Here are some review of stones I use for my work. This is the point of view of a stone polisher on mostly San mai knives. Those stones will be used for grinding, thinning, shaping your wife bevels on your knives
Instagram Live 21/02/2022 : Grinding a kitchen knife on bench whetstones
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Instagram Live 21/02/2022 : Grinding a kitchen knife on bench whetstones
Instagram Live 17/01/2023 : Stone polishing, a progression from 1k grit to natural stones
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Instagram Live 17/01/2023 : Stone polishing, a progression from 1k grit to natural stones
Instagram Live 20/10/2022 : Stone polishing, how to shape your bevels
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Instagram Live 20/10/2022 : Stone polishing, how to shape your bevels
Instagram Live 13/07/2022 : Stone polishing a kitchen knife with natural stones
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Instagram Live 13/07/2022 : Stone polishing a kitchen knife with natural stones
Instagram Live 12/04/2022 : Sharpening Class
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Instagram Live 12/04/2022 : Sharpening Class
Instagram Live 04/06/2022 : Pushing shinogi up
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Instagram Live 04/06/2022 : Pushing shinogi up
Instagram Live 08/07/2021 : Stone polishing, a progression from 400 grit to natural stones
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Instagram Live 08/07/2021 : Stone polishing, a progression from 400 grit to natural stones
Instagram Live 07/03/2023 : Stone polishing a kitchen knife
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Instagram Live 07/03/2023 : Stone polishing a kitchen knife
Straightening Ni Mai blades
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Straightening Ni Mai blades
Ueno, Japanese natural mid grit stone
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Ueno, Japanese natural mid grit stone
Atagoyama, Japanese natural stone
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Atagoyama, Japanese natural stone
Shiro Sunashi Suita from Maruoyama
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Shiro Sunashi Suita from Maruoyama
Narutaki Iromono, japanese natural whetstone
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Narutaki Iromono, japanese natural whetstone
Tamagoiro Suita Nashiji Sunashi from Maruoyama
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Tamagoiro Suita Nashiji Sunashi from Maruoyama
Japanese natural stone. unknown mine, tomae. mid hard, easy to use.
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Japanese natural stone. unknown mine, tomae. mid hard, easy to use.
How to do some maintenance on your knife ?
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How to do some maintenance on your knife ?
Maruo Tenjo Tomae
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Maruo Tenjo Tomae
Wakasa
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Wakasa

Комментарии

  • @JuaneDosesII-wj6dd
    @JuaneDosesII-wj6dd 14 дней назад

    Are they full tang? If you can’t use it to baton through an oak stump it’s trash. 😎

  • @sonkekoster3105
    @sonkekoster3105 17 дней назад

    Thank you for the nice comparision!

  • @naturalwhetstone8100
    @naturalwhetstone8100 Месяц назад

    Maybe interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?

  • @paweel2494
    @paweel2494 Месяц назад

    Greetings from Poland. I Watch your YT ❤

  • @jiahaotan696
    @jiahaotan696 Месяц назад

    Left my mark on the petition and may the algorithm discover you

  • @naturalwhetstone8100
    @naturalwhetstone8100 Месяц назад

    Maybe interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?

  • @naturalwhetstone8100
    @naturalwhetstone8100 Месяц назад

    Maybe interested in Indonesian natural Whetstone?

  • @kosmiksoul
    @kosmiksoul Месяц назад

    Kiyoshi Kato is a Master.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier Месяц назад

      He was making those knives very correctly and with clear view in mind, that really show when holding the knives. Surely a master of the craft.

  • @TCMx3
    @TCMx3 Месяц назад

    I have a Kato 240. Nice knife but... today I do not rate it above other great knives. It is still great, but so are other knives. At the time I got it though it was so different from other Japanese makers that were popular in the US that it was hard not to be blown away by it.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier Месяц назад

      My look on kato knives is quite separated from his fame, market price etc.. And the people who get them, paying the big tag price, pay more about having an object part of Japanese blacksmith history, than a very complex or refine build. The knives are well made, well grind, and made with a purpose. But they are still quite rough, rustic, and finished on machine, things that separate them a bit from their price tag

  • @KitchenKnifeGuy
    @KitchenKnifeGuy Месяц назад

    Excited to watch this later! :)

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier Месяц назад

      Thank you! Well it's not as well filmed and lighted than your video as I can see😅 I may work on it next time

    • @KitchenKnifeGuy
      @KitchenKnifeGuy Месяц назад

      @@milangraviercouteliergood content should always be the first priority 😀 people would rather stay for good content then a well lit scene with nothing interesting to hear.

  • @Racerchicken21
    @Racerchicken21 Месяц назад

    I want to see what you think after using them, really like how mine performs

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier Месяц назад

      This I will not know with those knives, unfortunately owner don't allow me to use them in the kitchen, only to have a look at them

    • @Racerchicken21
      @Racerchicken21 Месяц назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier That's sad, they are meant to be used, not like they are 1/1 pieces...

  • @andreb4125
    @andreb4125 Месяц назад

    Great video. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on those Katos along with your knives.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier Месяц назад

      thank you ! Glad it was interesting for you too ! It is great to look at other maker, and obviously a very well famous maker like kato

  • @transwerewolf
    @transwerewolf Месяц назад

    Awesome video! You should definitely compare with other makers when possible 😲

  • @dmitrybelyakov
    @dmitrybelyakov Месяц назад

    This is great, man - love the knew format. And thank you for talking about your work in depth.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier Месяц назад

      Thank you and glad it can be any good or interesting! I'll try make more video in the same style

    • @dmitrybelyakov
      @dmitrybelyakov Месяц назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier Please do! Always watch back the lives but these themed videos are also super exciting!

  • @dmitrybelyakov
    @dmitrybelyakov Месяц назад

    Hey hey hey!

  • @sryslyuguys
    @sryslyuguys Месяц назад

    Excellent video as always Milan. Very informative! This is the first time i have seen the stone put an incline in this orientation. I have seen japanese sharpeners elevate the close side of the stone, so the far side is lower. Very interesting that you have elevated the far side, so the close side is lower. I will definitely try this in my next sharpening session. Do you only do this with coarse work to make even use of the edges? Do you you also do for final edge sharpening? I am looking for a new coarse stone, and it is great to see insights into these three. A shame that the venev is no longer available due to the war. I love hard stones so would have been great to try. I am considering between the NSK oboro 200, debado and HKK400 vitrified for thinning and coarse work as they are available. Difficult to pick as they all seem great. Can you advise how hard the NSK oboro 200 is compared to more famous whetstones like chosera or shapton?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier Месяц назад

      About elevating the stone to the far side : I am really not the first one to do that. Maybe some japanese sharpeners do the other way, because they want the water to go away, or maybe for edge sharpening it can have some purpose. But elevating the stone to the far side is a way done by... japanese sword polishers. It give more control and better posture when working, in my opinion. But true I do it until 1k grit, from there I use the stone flat on the bench. About a stone. I would say NSK Oboro 200 is about a bit harder as chosera but they feel a bit the same way. It is harder than chosera for sure. But it is not hard like venev stones. HKK400 could be a good stone for shaping, but the normal one (the one I got) is too soft in my opinion. Great for edges or working honyaki maybe, but on san mai they will be too soft for my taste. There is a hard version I want to test, and this one might be better to work on san mai.

    • @sryslyuguys
      @sryslyuguys Месяц назад

      ​@@milangraviercoutelier thank you for your reply and again for your insights. It is good to hear regarding the incline, I look forward to trying it! I am also glad to hear the Oboro is hard like Chosera. I have only tried hakuto1 400 so I cannot compare to other grits. I have heard the debado is softer but very fast. Venev sounds perfect but perhaps in the future if they are available. Perhaps I will test Oboro200 or hard HKK400 if I cannot find venev! Thank you once again for your knowledge!

  • @frederikfremminganderssens8319
    @frederikfremminganderssens8319 Месяц назад

    Nice. Very nice

    • @milangravier
      @milangravier Месяц назад

      Thank you for writing such nice feedback. 🙏

  • @gravlaz
    @gravlaz 2 месяца назад

    Great comparisons. For the thinning or flattening what would you recommend? I work with some exotic steels like Pmv11 and blue steel. Sometimes flattening the backs of chisels takes ages...

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 2 месяца назад

      for thinning/flattening, I would use or Oboro 200, or Venev 80, or hk.knifework 400 normal (soft stone but really fast). Anyway it is long work so I would advise also to have a power tool if there is really a lot to grind. Horizontal water cooled wheel machine can be good for chisels and start flattening.

    • @gravlaz
      @gravlaz 2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the suggestions!

  • @thebigsebowski4645
    @thebigsebowski4645 2 месяца назад

    Salut vidéo très claire nickel juste quelle pâte utilises tu sur ton strop ? merci

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 2 месяца назад

      Merci beaucoup pour ton retour ! Pour la pâte, j'ai utilisé une pâte verte "puma" pendant quelque temps, c'est une pâte assez classique pour les rasoirs. J'utilise maintenant des pâtes diamantées : l'intérêt c'est qu'on sait quelle taille d'abrasif est utilisé et que le diamant coupe plus fort qu'un oxyde de chrome ou oxyde d'aluminium. Honnêtement, toute pâte va fonctionner, il s'agit de polir le fil qui est extrêmement fin, il ne faut pas vraiment de la grosse artillerie pour arriver au but recherché. Si tu veux vraiment polir le fil, l'oxyde de chrome (pâtes vertes) devraient convenir. Si tu veux polir le fil sans aller trop fin (car on perdrait du mordant en polissant un fil), tu peux acheter de la pâte diamant genre grain 3000/5000.

    • @thebigsebowski4645
      @thebigsebowski4645 2 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier Salut merci beaucoup pour ta réponse j'ai la puma aussi ainsi qu'une blanche assez dure que j'ai eu avec des couteaux helvie knives(sculpture )qui est pas mal mais je pense que c'est ta 2ème option qui me conviendrai vu que pour le moment je m'arrête à la naniwa pro 1000(3000 peut être plus tard....) je ne cherche pas le polissage de la mort😁mais plutôt "l'efficacité" le mordant comme tu dis!!!tu aurais une marque ou une référence à me conseiller?autre question peut être bête je sais pas tu appliques côté fleur ou côté croute?merci

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 2 месяца назад

      @@thebigsebowski4645 Pour la marque, je ne suis pas expert sur ce sujet, je dois dire que ça me semble pas un élément très déterminant donc à mon avis, prends ce que tu trouves à pas trop cher. pour l'affûtage la pierre et l'angle, le geste est déterminant, le polissage avec pâte diamant est juste un petit plus pour bien démorfiler et polir. Pour le côté croute ou fleur, je crois que j'ai vu les deux donc j'imagine que c'est au gout de chacun. Mais si tu veux de la finesse je crois que c'est systématiquement le côté fleur qui est utilisé pour les rasoirs

    • @thebigsebowski4645
      @thebigsebowski4645 2 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier cool merci!!!🙏🏻

  • @swapnilmule3922
    @swapnilmule3922 2 месяца назад

    Which nakiri you are sharpening...it seems a nice workhorse nakiri

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 2 месяца назад

      @@swapnilmule3922 it is indeed. It's a Nakiri I made : instagram.com/p/C6rGDs0MBGd/?igsh=cGg5c3pqeDVqdWox

  • @olan5668
    @olan5668 2 месяца назад

    I need an extra-coarse stone, the grit is around 200. A versatile/balanced stone for heavy work (repair chipping) and just for setting up bevel (skip the Naniwa Chosera/Pro 400). The edge scratch pattern left must be able to refine by Naniwa Chosera/Pro 800, before jump to Naniwa Chosera/Pro 3000 (if needed). For thinning (double bevel) and later to make new kasumi finish, which one extra-coarse stone do you think better, a harder stone?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 2 месяца назад

      @@olan5668 what you demand is a bit too much. I don't think any 200 grit stone work will be effectively cleaned by a naniwa 800. Might work but might be long. I would put naniwa 400 or 600 in between. My advise would be : Or nsk oboro 200 : cut not too deep, work on different steel and iron, keeps cutting if you use slurry. Or venev 240 : you will have a 100 with it or a 400 (they are double side stones) I would take the 100 + 240 personally. It's harder stone than venev, it can clog faster but if you use slurry it will cut for quite long time. You need sic powder to open surface again. But as it is harder it stay flat much better and give more precision. If you want to refine with 800 faster... A diamond 400 could be good for you, naniwa diamond or nsk 400 are good stones.

    • @olan5668
      @olan5668 2 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier Do you think Naniwa Chosera/Pro 800 can refine the edge scratch pattern left by Suehiro Debado LD 180? i saw a video on YT that he use LD 180 then jump to LD 1000, seems ok. But i concern about the hardness issue of LD 180 that you mention in this video. How do you flatten extra-coarse whetstone? using Atoma 140?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 2 месяца назад

      @@olan5668 if you're talking only about edge sharpening of course doing 200 grit to 1k is possible because surface is small. Debado won't behave too soft when used for edges or hard steel. It will behave soft when thinning bevels San mai with iron clad. You can flatten debado 180 with atoma 140 or sic powder on glass or granit

  • @supertramp66ms
    @supertramp66ms 2 месяца назад

    thanks a lot for sharing! i can learn so much :)

  • @sryslyuguys
    @sryslyuguys 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for this video, it was very informative. Do you know how the NSK 200 and traditional low grit stones compare to the vitrified diamonds like the Dr Knives 400 and FSK/BBB 400? I have heard those are very fast also. Do you know if the NSK glaze's more or less than the vitrified diamond 400s? Thank you for your knowledge and making these videos

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 3 месяца назад

      @@sryslyuguys I got a Dr knives (hk.knifeworks right?) 400 but I never tested bbb or fsk 400. They are quite different mm nsk stones. The hk.knifeworks 400 is softer, more grainy feel, faster. Nsk is slower, harder, more gummy smooth feel. In my experience the hk.knifeworks 400 normal is soft enough to not glaze at all but will wear a little faster too. Nsk will glaze if you use a lot of water but if you work with mud it won't stop cutting. I generally start working with mud and then with water on the final pass to make shallower scratches. Nsk are quite different from traditional stones. Cut more shallow, cleaner, more vision and precision in my opinion.

    • @sryslyuguys
      @sryslyuguys 3 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier ah thank you Milan I really appreciate that information. It is hard to try all of these stones so your insight is invaluable. Do you think the HK.knifeworks 400 soft is faster to remove metal than the imanishi 220? Or for speed alone there is no need to move from the traditional whetstone like imanishi?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 3 месяца назад

      @@sryslyuguys for sharpening micro bevel or thinning the all bevel? I would say the normal Hk. Knifeworks 400 is really fast so it should be faster than traditional stone and as diamond is abrasive you will also grind faster wear resistant steels

    • @sryslyuguys
      @sryslyuguys 3 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier ah thank you for your reply. Yes I was refering to the thinning process rather than the edge sharpening. Yes I hear diamonds are great for wear resistant steels. I wonder though are they any faster for thinning regular steels like stainless or cladding, considering these are softer materials that normal abrasives such as SiC and AlOx can readily cut into. In these cases is it faster to go with the diamonds?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 3 месяца назад

      @@sryslyuguys I am not an expert about speed of stones, I did not really made precise comparisons. I would say in term of speed : how much material is remove on every strokes ? Diamond and traditional abrasives would work about the same on irons. Now speed is not only material removed in my opinion : because if the abrasion is crazy but the stone scratch even where it is not touching, it get messy, you don't see what you do, you then make mistakes and you loose time. So diamond stones for how clean they cut can bring you speed anyway because you make less mistakes using them in my opinion

  • @SenriganA
    @SenriganA 3 месяца назад

    愛宕山浅葱

  • @michelmorales9464
    @michelmorales9464 4 месяца назад

    J'aime bien l'idée de faire rapidement revenir un tranchant très utile pour la suite des préparations. C'est un peu imposant quand même, mais peut-être cela peut il s'améliorer, pourquoi pas ? Très bonne initiative en tous cas. N'hésites pas à nous faire part de tes autres astuces! 😊

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      Vu qu'il sagit de coller une poignée à une pierre, l'encombrement ne dépend que de la personne qui se fabrique cet outil, soit en trouvant une pierre plus petite, soit en retaillant une pierre plus grande. Merci pour ton commentaire

  • @909RC3P4T
    @909RC3P4T 4 месяца назад

    Magnifique 🔪

  • @SteZi-jc6rg
    @SteZi-jc6rg 4 месяца назад

    Je trouve que cela reste encombrant dans une cuisine + le fait qu'il faille nettoyer la pierre, le support et ton plan de travail ou ton évier après utilisation. A cela je rajoute la difficulté du maintien de l'angle à une main en affutant à plat . Pour moi, cela fait beaucoup de contraintes pour redonner du mordant entre 2 découpes. Je conviens que l'utilisation du fusil a aussi ses inconvénients mais tout comme l'affutage à la pierre, le mouvement s'apprend et il n'y a pas qu'une méthode (la mienne est de tenir le fusil comme un poignard, verticalement et vers le bas, puis de passer le couteau de haut en bas de chaque côté de la lame, sans appuyer). Pour une utilisation rapide, le fusil céramique reste pour moi le meilleur compromis en cuisine. Enfin pour en revenir à ton support à poignée, une v2 sans coller la pierre, mais un emplacement aux dimensions pour pouvoir juste la poser sans qu'elle ne bouge? Merci du partage en tout cas, et longue vie à tes couteaux🙂

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@SteZi-jc6rg franchement, je trouve très retour super intéressant et je suis ok pour voir les limites de chaque outil. Le but à la fin ? Que chacun prenne l'outil qui lui convient avec les compromis qu'il préfère. Pour le fusil, en terme de facilité d'utilisation... Je crois que ce sera imbattable ou presque. Car oui.. Un fusil c'est solide (Quoique en céramique..), fin, et d'utilisation à sec donc c'est facile à ranger et à utiliser. Reste que quand on utilise un fusil, on utilise un cylindre et il y'aura un travail non régulier sur la longueur de la lame et il y aura d'autant plus de travail à la pierre le jour où on y retournera. C'est un compromis. Il est acceptable pour certains cuisiner je le conçoit. Pour mon outil, en vrai c'est pas aussi volumineux que la vidéo le fait penser.. Dans la cuisine je le range facilement à côté de l'égouttoir. Par contre c'est vrai que c'est un outil qui s'utilise avec de l'eau. J'imagine qu'avec les couteaux inox, les cuisiniers ne sont peut être plus habituer à avoir un point d'eau ou une bassine d'eau près de leur plan de travail. Mais quand on utilise des couteaux en acier carbone, un point d'eau est fortement recommander pour pouvoir rincer la lame de l'acidité qu'il y'a sur les aliments et donc moi personnellement je cuisine toujours avec un accès à mon évier. Donc l'idée de mouiller ma pierre sous l'évier puis de la rincer sous l'eau après utilisation ne me semble pas très contraignant, c'est ce que je fais aussi entre différentes découpes quand j'utilise mes couteaux. Différentes cuisiniers, différents couteaux, différents usages.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@SteZi-jc6rg pour la fixation de la pierre à la colle... Ça semble le plus pratique et facile... Mais un bricoleur peut en effet faire une encoche ou des queux d'arronde afin de fixer la pierre sur le support.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@SteZi-jc6rg oh et une dernière chose : je ne crois pas qu'on puisse, en tout cas en tant que cuisinier professionnel, indiqué qu'une pierre n'est pas facile à utiliser car il faut apprendre le geste, apprendre à trouver l'angle. Pour moi, il s'agit simplement des choses à apprendre qu'on est cuisinier, qu'on aime ça ou pas. En tant que coutelier, j'ai du apprendre à souder à l'arc, réparer des machines, faire des branchements électriques, apprendre à affûter des forêts, changer une lame de scie à ruban et la régler, utiliser un logiciel photo, réaliser un site internet etc etc... Je sais qu'être cuisinier est un métier très prenant. Mais l'affûtage d'une lame fait partie des compétences que doit maîtriser un cuisiner comme celle de connaître ses cuissons. Je dis ça pour tout cuisinier. Pour tout professionnel. Un métier ce n'est pas uniquement sa compétence stricte et ignorer le reste. C'est réussir à maîtriser toute la chaîne de compétence qui permet de faire son travail dans de bonnes conditions.

    • @SteZi-jc6rg
      @SteZi-jc6rg 4 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier oui globalement d'accord pour un pro (bien qu'il y ait sans aucun doute quelques exceptions qui n'ont appris que le fusil et n'en veulent pas plus), mais je pensais que ton propos valait pour tous les utilisateurs de couteau de cuisine qui aiment que leurs couteaux coupent. Quand je parlais de la difficulté du maintien de l'angle à une main en affutant à plat, c'est qu'il me semble que la majorité des utilisateurs de pierre pour les grands couteaux (à partir de 15 cm à une vache près) affutent avec leurs 2 mains, la pierre posée et calée. Le faire à une main demande une expérience supplémentaire AMHA. Faudra que j'essaie😉

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@SteZi-jc6rg oui je trouve ça pas correcte qu'un professionnel de cuisine ne fasse pas de son mieux pour apprendre les bases de l'affûtage (ça reste de toute façon une question culturelle au de là des cuisiniers) mais oui bien sûr cet outil je l'ai pensé pour tout le monde pro et particulier. Par rapport à l'affûtage, oui il est bien plus confortable, rapide et précis de poser la pierre à plat et d'affûter avec ses deux mains pour tenir la lame. Mais ici il ne s'agit pas d'affûtage mais de remplacer ou proposer une alternative au fusil dans la cuisine. Si on peut trouver l'angle à utiliser sur un fusil, il suffit de faire la même chose avec une pierre fixé sur ce manche. Je montre l'utilisation dans la vidéo, rien de bien compliqué. Il s'agit juste d'entretenir le tranchant mais pas vraiment d'un affûtage où une pierre à part est à privilégier.

  • @SkeleknightsGaming
    @SkeleknightsGaming 4 месяца назад

    I always watch whenever you release videos up on RUclips. You'll gain followers in no time to those who enjoy watching videos such as this. They can spread the words, even post on KKF, or any other forums. You're very well respected. Thanks as always!

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      Thank you very much! I'll try to continue posting on RUclips. Got out of ideas of videos but need time!

  • @HellGatefr2
    @HellGatefr2 4 месяца назад

    Salut, sympa ton idée ! En effet les fusils acier je vois pas l'intérêt quand un fusil céramique peut également redresser un tranchant, après les bouchers ne jurent que par ça alors... Pour ma part n'ayant pas ton aisance à main levée, j'entretiens mes couteaux avec un Spyderco Sharpmaker, cela me permet donc de travailler en micro-biseau à 15°/côté sur les couteaux de cuisine, je trouve cette solution très rapide une fois l'angle bien établi à la réception du couteau (en général dans les 12-13°côté pour ma part, sur système guidé genre TSPROF) Contrairement aux fusils traditionnels, les faces plates du sharpmaker permettent de bien travailler sur la pointe et le talon ce qui est quand même important et concernant le grain, la céramique blanche fournie avec le kit correspond à peu près à J2500 et la marron correspond à J1000 ce qui est bien aussi, on peut aussi aisément aiguiser les becs d'oiseau ! C'est également un vrai cheat code pour aiguiser les couteaux dentelés Victorinox genre ceux pour les tomates (qui sont pile poil à 17.5°/côté d'origine) Il y a plein de façons d'arriver au même résultat, en tout cas bravo pour ta créativité !

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      Merci pour ton commentaire. Je crois qu'à la fin chacun fait à sa façon et il n'y aura jamais de solution pour tout le monde. Je pense juste que cette idée de poignée pour pierre peut convenir à certains. Par rapport à ton Spyderco Sharpmaker, je comprends qu'on puisse aimer mais ça reste une solution encombrante et qui prend trop de temps pour un usage en cuisine pendant qu'on coupe nos aliments, c'est donc pour une autre situation que celle présentée ici

  • @pierreseguier5639
    @pierreseguier5639 4 месяца назад

    Souvent les cuisinier pro de mon entourage (ex le boucher de auchan) utilisent des machines à affûter.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      Une machine peut être une possibilité pour remplacer la pierre d'établi posée à plat sur une table ou un établi, mais ce n'est pas vraiment le sujet ici : l'idée est de chercher une solution pour reprendre le tranchant rapidement entre deux découpes, pendant qu'on cuisine, donc pas vraiment le temps d'aller jusqu'à une machine et travailler avec. D'autant que là on n'est juste sur un ravivage du tranchant, pas un aiguisage qui demanderai un important enlèvement de matière.

  • @NSKmaster555
    @NSKmaster555 4 месяца назад

    私が作ったダイヤ砥石使ってくれてありがとう

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@NSKmaster555 作ってくれてありがとう。 毎日使っているとても素敵な石です。

    • @NSKmaster555
      @NSKmaster555 4 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier 皆さんがもっと喜んでもらえるように、砥石の開発頑張りきす。今後ともよろしく。

  • @Dark14439
    @Dark14439 4 месяца назад

    Certes avec un fusil on peut reprendre le tranchant, mais au départ il n'est conçu que pour redresser le fil donc pas pour faire de l'affûtage. L'astuce me fait penser aux pierres utilisées pour les faux et autres outils des agriculteurs, vu la taille du tranchant il est plus facile dans ce cas de bouger la pierre que l'outil 😅.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@Dark14439 c'est difficile de dire qu'un outils n'est pas fait pour sans compter ses évolutions et le fait qu'on puisse en trouver aujourd'hui en céramique ou avec un revêtement diamant (donc enlèvement de matière). Effectivement, le fusil en acier avec des stries sert plutôt pour des aciers tendres où le fil se déforme et sert alors à redresser se fil qui s'est enroulé sur lui même. Par rapport à la longueur de la lame, je crois que c'est plus une habitude et l'idée est de pouvoir reprendre le fil entre deux découpes donc sans avoir à poser son couteau ou trouver l'espace pour le faire.

  • @theo-it9sp
    @theo-it9sp 4 месяца назад

    Bonjour avez vous déjà utilisé un machine tormek ? J’aurai aimée avoir votre avis

  • @MeowCat-gm5vb
    @MeowCat-gm5vb 4 месяца назад

    I use a hard natural 1x6 inch stone as a strop/hone. Usually 5 swipes per side will get the job done.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@MeowCat-gm5vb nice! Do you have a picture?

    • @MeowCat-gm5vb
      @MeowCat-gm5vb 4 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier i.postimg.cc/bNHgW5KN/IMG-20240828-071423.jpg This is a commercial product but I modified it by shaving the wooden ends such that it is level with the stone. This allows the knife to safely move beyond the edge of the stone, reducing uneven wear on the stone

    • @MeowCat-gm5vb
      @MeowCat-gm5vb 4 месяца назад

      ​@@milangraviercoutelieri.postimg.cc/bNHgW5KN/IMG-20240828-071423.jpg Hi, this is a commercial product but I modified it such that the wooden ends at the edge of the stone is level with the stone. This allows the knife to safely move beyond the edge of the stone and therefore reducing uneven wear.

    • @MeowCat-gm5vb
      @MeowCat-gm5vb 4 месяца назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier hi, I tried to paste a link to a picture but the comment didn't appear. Basically it's a commercial product, Arkansas stone attached to a block of wood. Anyways, I enjoy your work a lot and look forward to seeing great stuffs from you. i.postimg.cc/bNHgW5KN/IMG-20240828-071423.jpg

    • @MeowCat-gm5vb
      @MeowCat-gm5vb 4 месяца назад

      ​@@milangraviercoutelier Hi, I tried to attach a link to a picture but the comment got deleted. It's a commercial product called Dan's ez something, it's an Arkansas stone but I modified it such that the wood attached to the edge of the stone is level with the stone. This allows the knife to safely move beyond the edge of the stone, allowing the edge of the stone be used effectively and therefore reducing uneven wear.

  • @jiahaotan696
    @jiahaotan696 4 месяца назад

    I have a more efficient way... I just swap out the knife lol (hear me out) I mean usually those of us who cook or like kitchen knives tend to gravitate towards higher-hardness knives after a while, and the way these dull is the edge just slowly blunts over time; it doesn't roll over. For me it takes about 2-3 months of regular home use for my most-used knife, and if I somehow suddenly am confronted with a lot of cutting tasks (very rare since I'd know in advance if parties or whatever come up and would make sure my knives are sharp beforehand) or somehow the knife is not sharp enough for the task at hand... Look, I have spare knives, alright, especially those of santoku to chef knife length. If one is dull I just grab another. I know this was not helpful at all lol

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@jiahaotan696 honestly I think it is very interesting to have every feedback about the subject of maintenance. If you have multiple, it is indeed a good idea to swap to another one and use one knife for heavy duty others for fine cuts. I am a bit like you sharpening my knives in the kitchen every 2 or 3 months but I like to touch up with a 3k while cooking to really get those fresh teeth I like, especial in the summer as I eating almost only tomatoes

  • @flowwwthepro5468
    @flowwwthepro5468 4 месяца назад

    Nice idea! Maybe just put a wooden stick on one of the single screw stoneholders, like suehiro deluxe. Could be a quick way to try it out.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@flowwwthepro5468 yeah good idea! Issue would be the weight of the total but that way you can change stones on the same tool. My idea here is just for maintenance, would not replace some proper sharpening from time to time

  • @flowwwthepro5468
    @flowwwthepro5468 4 месяца назад

    Great content as always! For me around 9 pm would be a better time.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      @@flowwwthepro5468 thank you! 9pm right, but are you from?

    • @flowwwthepro5468
      @flowwwthepro5468 4 месяца назад

      Yes sorry, Central Europe, same time zone as you are! I prefer RUclips over Instagram for videos! Content wise it would be interesting what’s different if you don’t start with one of your blades, but with one that was only finished on the belt. I mean like when i want to polish a knife from a different maker that has not stone ready bevels yet. How do i go about that. I understand though if you don’t like it, at its not your process.

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 4 месяца назад

      ​@@flowwwthepro5468well that blade on the video was just out of the belt so it's pretty like if I was grabbing any average knife (well.. I try to work in a way that will be useful for working on stones then so it's a bit different). But I will try make a video taking some random knife

  • @lucamasserini2974
    @lucamasserini2974 4 месяца назад

    Ciao Milan, I follow you on Instagram. One of my dreams is to meet you and of course have one of your masterpiece. Please keep going to upload those videos on YT. Ciao bello.

  • @InigoTucker
    @InigoTucker 5 месяцев назад

    Just how long were you twisting that for?? So many layers...

  • @InigoTucker
    @InigoTucker 5 месяцев назад

    Nice convexity!

  • @nweibull
    @nweibull 5 месяцев назад

    After 3 months, how are the Oboro stones holding up? Do they wear as fast as the Hakuto stones?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 5 месяцев назад

      I want to make a video someday soon about my feedback on those diamond stones and other stones I have tested. To my point of view they are holding up, they seem harder than Hakuto... But it is not an easy answer. For exemple : If I compare Oboro 200 vs Hakuto 1 200 : Yes, I would say Oboro will wear slower. If I compare Oboro 400 vs Hakuto 1 400 : I would say they are similar in wearing. Hakuro will cut more shallow and will work a little better on hard steel to my point of view. Oboro 800 vs Hakuto 800 : again, pretty similar, maybe a little better about wearing for the Oboro but not by much. I don't have a hakuto 200 anymore, it's dead now, so I hesitate to buy another one to make a better comparison, not based on memory, which it is right now. Oh, and Oboro 400 vs Hakuto 1 400 vs Hakuto 1s 400 : both oboro and hakuto 1 wear much slower than 400s which is fast as hell but for my way of working wear too fast and should be use only for hard steel, not iron. Hope that help,

  • @matthewhearst1624
    @matthewhearst1624 5 месяцев назад

    Beautiful work Milan!!

  • @twatmunro
    @twatmunro 7 месяцев назад

    That's a beautiful knife you're using for the demo. One of your own?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 7 месяцев назад

      Thank you, yes it is ! an old knife I use for testing stones

  • @jjshane72
    @jjshane72 8 месяцев назад

    how fast cutting is that NSK 2k? Seeing how you got a burr with only 1 pass, it must be extremely fast

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 7 месяцев назад

      The Nsk 2k is not a crazy fast stone as it is quite hard. Still it is diamond stone so it got everything to be efficient. To give more info, my work is about stone polishing bevels, those are shaped to zero grind so when I sharpen a knife like here, there just no material to grind, burr will come straight away. So it makes a burr in just one pass because the stone is fast but also because the bevel is so thin

  • @johnduffy6546
    @johnduffy6546 8 месяцев назад

    Not bad...Try Tormek honing compound on your strop and you'll be slicing paper like a pro in no time

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 8 месяцев назад

      Thank you for tip. I am already a pro slicing paper so I may save few bucks and just work with my plain leather

  • @sharpfactory3705
    @sharpfactory3705 8 месяцев назад

    Beautifule, was the second stone a cotucule ?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 8 месяцев назад

      Yes ! first is Nsk oboro 2000 grit and second is Coticule from belgium. All my knives are finished on coticules, love them for edges

    • @sharpfactory3705
      @sharpfactory3705 8 месяцев назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier ive heard many people say that the edges from coticules are to polished but your edge has to have a good bite to cut the paper towel

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 8 месяцев назад

      @@sharpfactory3705 Coticule are often use by razor guys. I don't know that subject at all. Maybe they get a very refined ege if they work with running water. But in my opinion coticules are...about 4k not much more. This one is my coarsest, maybe 3k. here is a link where I was polishing a knife with coticule, you can zoom in the image. The scratch pattern is 3k / 4k not more in my opinion : drive.google.com/drive/folders/1c5DVICYJQZQho1fUpXVD8bzFkSMPhs0Z?usp=drive_link

    • @sharpfactory3705
      @sharpfactory3705 8 месяцев назад

      @@milangraviercoutelier nice polish, did you have experience with the la Lune stone ?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 8 месяцев назад

      @@sharpfactory3705 no I don't!

  • @halczex
    @halczex 8 месяцев назад

    Great content! I am considering getting one or two NSK medium grit stones for sharpening edges. Do you have any recommendations? Now I finish my sg2 and aogami knives at Morihei 4k. I am thinking about NSK hakuto 1, 800/1500 3k/6k

    • @halczex
      @halczex 8 месяцев назад

      And also is there a link to that hard SIC stone?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@halczex hello, to be totally honest I don't use nsk stones for sharpening, mainly because I use low alloy steel. On some stainless I sharpen rarely I use the hakuto 1 800 and it is great. I got the 2000 oboro now and did not test for sharpening but should be OK. Oboro will stay flatter I think if that is important for you but hakuto will feel more abrasive and release new abrasive more often as softer. Personally I would use those expensive stones only for steels that need diamond abrasive. I never worked sg2 but it should benefit from be sharpen with diamond. Aogami not necessarily. About the sic stone sorry it was given with a machine I bought. It is just a sic stone that is used to grind grinding wheel on machines. Look for trueing stones or flattening stones for machines

  • @simenthorbeck7656
    @simenthorbeck7656 8 месяцев назад

    The details 🤯

  • @francoisduhem2585
    @francoisduhem2585 9 месяцев назад

    Hi , I’m french but I will ask my question in english so everyone can understand. First of all, great video and you make great knives, I hope to buy one from you some day. I’m a hobbyist (spelling ?) and I’m looking for diamond stones. At this stage, would you recommend the naniwa diamond stones over the nsk’s ? What are the key differences between them ? Thanks in advance for your answer and keep up the good work !

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 9 месяцев назад

      Hey François, we can talk on instagram for more details but here is a first answer : Naniwa diamond are good stones, 1mm thick abrasive and about 150 euros. NSK are 3 to 4mm thick and about 280 euros. So for the price you'll have more diamond and stone with NSK. Naniwa are easily available though but now NSK start to be more available here and there, even in Europe. NSK got a large variety of stones depending the uses and start from 200 grit to 10k. Naniwa is 400 to 6k. My advise would be to go with NSK but a Naniwa is not a wrong choice and some friends use them and really like them

    • @francoisduhem2585
      @francoisduhem2585 9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your answer. For flattening them, do you thing that the shapton iron cast lapping plate ( not the diamond one) with some loose sic powder could be a good option ?

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 9 месяцев назад

      @@francoisduhem2585 I honestly don't know.. But I would say maybe expensive because I don't know how much is the cast iron plate but you can work with just a piece of glass and sic powder, it will work just fine. The glass is not more flat ? just change it. It's cheap

  • @Crazyknives
    @Crazyknives 9 месяцев назад

    I think you Are a perfect Candidate to Create a line of Stones, with all the experience that you have,

    • @milangraviercoutelier
      @milangraviercoutelier 9 месяцев назад

      Thanks ! I don't have time for that but maybe I'll do a collab one day !