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They pulling a gojo with the red and blue 😂

This is three months later, but man I really wish there was more involvement of the dragonsplague as a key player throughout the game. Serving as a push-pull narrative between the Arisen and their Main Pawn. In the beginning, the Arisen and Pawn are not well bonded yet and over time, as wills and relationships change (say from treating your Pawn well-not throwing them into the brine, throwing them off cliffs, having them die repeatedly, killing them ect), the Pawn's ability to control the plague also changes. I would think repeatedly abusing/hurting a Pawn would crush their will, therefore losing control to the dragonsplague far more often than not, regardless of how far you are in-game. TBH I wish there were more consequences to purposely being a dickhead to your Pawn, like them not staying too close to you, preferring to keep a distance, dialogue changes to you and guest Pawns ect. If you do well by them, they have a higher chance of control, and it can grant some interesting abilities once earned/learned. To keep things fresh I would say the plague would never be a consistent winner in terms of having the Pawn utilizing the dragonsplague successfully, and they can lose control and end up becoming a temporary enemy(that can be dangerous to anything around them) that the Arisen has to placate/calm through defeating the dragonsplague form and allowing the Pawn to heal slowly over time. Through the storyline, the Pawn learns how to better form and wield willpower as well as learning of emotions that may have been completely alien to them in the beginning of the game. I think aerial dogfight-esque battles between some of the enemies that can fly and the Arisen riding or the player controlling the dragonsplague pawn would have been killer. I'm asking a lot from a game that is pretty lean in terms of direct spoonfed lore and quest meat in-game, and it's all selfish as hell, but I do really enjoy the premise of DD, it just fell short in areas that left a lot of folks wondering and collaborating. The good thing is, there is a super rich pool of 'what if' mechanics, and I'm coping with diving into the community's ideas and explanations.

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Which DLC is your favourite?

I love this game, it reminds me a lot of Drakan, but we can't mount a dragon XD.

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Interesting stuff!!!

Just started playing so your videos are apreceated

Are the vierga dwarfs in KoA ?

I think they left some for the dlc, like the lambent flame I hope

I haven't seen a moon at all while playing. idk if it shows up later in the game, but I know there was cut content from the first game, which also originally had no moon prior to dark arisen. The lambent flame also gives off an other worldly light. There is also a connection to were-animals and the moon in irl lore. I think the beastren either were created from the moon or CAME from the moon. This would be prime DLC for us to drop the beastren lore on us and, possibly, give us dragons dogma in space 😂

I'm a huge fan of the Beastren in DD2. To be honest, the idea of not being able to play as a Beastren or have my pawn be one in Dragon's Dogma 1 makes it feel hard to return to that game despite how much I still love it. Personally, I like how vibe-based and mysterious their history is, and just the storytelling of this series in general. As much as what the game explicitly tells you, the same amount (if not more) is left a pure mystery or open to interpretation, or is downright contradicted later. As just one example, I'm thinking of how we witness Brokkr's prejudice against elves firsthand, and we learn how it is said that elves and dwarves don't get along. But later, we meet the married Gautstafr and Cliodhna, who very obviously deeply love and care for one another despite the societal ostracism they face because of it (Cliodhna even follows you secretly to make sure you're not a threat to Gautstafr). Then, again contradicting what we've heard so far, we learn that, although Beastrens are discriminated against within Vermund, the kingdom itself was founded by an ancient Beastren ruler--though it seems that this has been long since forgotten (and perhaps intentionally erased--who broke off the heads of those statues, I wonder?). Bearing in mind those ancient ancestral roots in the kingdom, it seems reasonable to me that they would persist there despite the prejudices levied against them. To me, these contradictions make the story all the more deliciously unexpected, and add a surprising amount of believability to the world they've written. Reality is not often exactly as it seems on the surface. All that to say, as a fellow lore appreciator, I am grateful to you for deep diving into the lore of this game. I hope in the future (maybe in the DLC?) the history of the Beastren gets explored a lot more, especially stuff like "What is the Lambent Flame?"

So the Beastren play the part of a discriminated group for the game. This seemed odd to me because they had their own land and empire (it's funny they want to avoid the word empire with an empress because it's a negative connotation in RPGs), so I wasn't sure why they would go to a human society unless something was wrong with their own or opportunity was there for them. Was this explained in-game? If the two sides had even gone to war, you'd think there would be prejudice openly on both sides and seem impractical or weak for the Empress to try and garner acceptance of human in their land. Usually that level of altruism is taken advantage of real fast in the political world and only can work if the intent is, somehow and conditions allow, the poor of human society to turn to the beastren and build numbers. I just don't think that would work if hostility is where it is between the races. So the guards in the human kingdom are there through a class system? Your father was a guard, so you will be a guard? I'm not sure what they are basing it on if in Medieval times guards were subtenants of a knight, paid for their roles. I'm sure they could naturally advance as not always stationed as guards, but couldn't find that exact information. The game could be making it's own societal structure, but an odd one if the case. I find it convenient that the entire history of the beastren is just forgotten even by them because that would require re-education of them in order to forget it or near genocide to lower their numbers to such an extent. Things like architecture, craft and arts done they the beastren would repeat in their own kingdom, making them identical and the connection obvious. The humans would have to rework Vermund from the ground up to hide any trace. If the prejudice was that deep on the human side, I wouldn't think they'd let any in their kingdom. I'm also not sure how the beastren would outbreed the humans if the humans had the numbers to oust them in the first place, unless a pre-emptive strategy simply to see humans take control of land and resources. If the beastren had control of Vermund, how did the humans gain the means to overthrow them? I'm kinda seeing why the story isn't exactly favored if the plot had this at it's center, yet really didn't flesh it out beyond human bad/beastren oppressed. There is also the factor of language. If they all speak the same language, they couldn't tell who was beastren and human historically, but that would tie them together even closer because they'd share common origin. It does seem like a eugenics level handling of beastren was implemented in society, but did that always exist between both races to not interbreed? Usually if you can produce offspring with another group, you are the same people and less of a barrier unless prejudice existed on both sides. Rothar being with a human woman had to be normal or if taboo, it wasn't done by either group for some reason. A society existed before Rothar and humans had to be there too. Whatever was would have left some trace or Rothar and the people that formed Vermund abandoned it, it's culture and history. If not, there should be some trace of it close by if not on the same continent. If the elves have no clue about where they came from and doesn't suggest they came to that continent, they essentially poofed into existence and suddenly came among humans without resistance. That just doesn't make sense. I like thinking deeply about these things, but I know some people get annoyed thinking someone is poking holes in what they like, but it does expose lazy writing and bad worldbuilding that will lead to problems later. Narrative isn't Capcom's strength so I'm not surprised, yet you'd think they'd take some care with the DD universe. If the flame worshipped doesn't even have a background, I've no idea what to say about it lol!

Shame the Beastrens weren't developed more in DD2. I feel like the Elves has more of a culture in the game and they play in such a smaller part.

any plans on the monsters of dd2 including the brine dragons and why some looks a bit different from the first game

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Great video!

Great video!

Yes.

' And so Vekreth God of Scorn stole into the Glade. From behind a tree he beheld Arylia goddess of Love and Beauty in all her splendor. From that day he took ill pining for her. "This Foolish phase will fade away," Belen said "all things do." "You must conquer this weakness," said Thyrdon, "all is Struggle and Victory." But Arylia had seen Vekreth in the Glade, though he had not known it. Long had his disdainful distance filled her heart with painful longing. Now she had cracked his shell. So she spoke to Lupoku and Lupoku whispered in Mitharu's ear telling him the Seven-Singing-Bells had fallen out of Harmony. Mitharu ever thick-witted, set out on the four-day journey to visit every bell. Unwatched, Arylia crept off to Vekreth and there they unveiled to each other their holy numinous ineffabilities and so they were wed. Love and Hate are married to this day and the fools who cling to Mitharu's name rage at the holy union to this day, for truly, they're sealed shut and their hearts are cold as stones. '

Why are you saying wheel? Its just will

So the World Tree in Darksiders 1 🌍-🌲 Was a being circling Amalur before or after the burning 😢

Awesome video! Love the lore of this Dragon's dogma, it's so deep and profound

my current understanding (correct or incorrect) is that the greater will became tired of creating worlds just for them to end up being consumed by oblivion. which to me sounds like 2 separate wills akin to a will to life and a will to death. so the greater will created the cycle and gave oblivion a role in the cycle to stop it from ending the world. I think the brine is the embodiment of this "oblivion" that wants to consume the world. and the pathfinder is some kind of middle management, forced to step in because the last seneschal (Rothais) abandoned his duty to watch over the world and the cycle. I view the brine as a kind of primordial will, not really sentient, just chaotic and instinctual. which could be why the pathfinder is able to exert some kind of command / control over it. just spit balling really, i would some confirmation for any of this. I dont think the pathfinder and the brine are the same being because the brine was present in the first game before the pathfinder was on the scene, and obviously the colour difference in their powers. so im guessing blue represents the power of the greater will (as seen in the pathfinder and the seneschal), and red represents the destructive will of the brine. so as for dragonsplague, i think it is the pawn contracting this destructive will, which conflicts with the will of the arisen and changes the pawns nature, giving them an urge to destroy, which is why they wipe out the whole town. however I think the Arisens will is stronger, which is why dragonsplague causes them to become more belligerent and argumentative but they still follow and generally do as theyre told. maybe when the arisen sleeps the arisens will kind "switches off", giving the pawn free reign to transform and wreak havoc. or maybe its just because the arisen is a sleep so cant tell them not to go on a kiling spree? weird that the arisen isnt woken up by the destruction tho. thats where my head is at from watching these videos and reading stuff online. tell me if im wrong, im desperate for some more lore on this game

So will in dragon's dogma is like the force in star wars?

Last WEEK's video? 😉 I see Creation and Destruction as neutral forces guided by Will. But of course if you try to create with oblivion or destroy with creation you end up with corruption. Dragonsplague works because your pawn doesn't have their own will or its too weak. But by the end your pawn has a strong enough will to resist. Recently I babysat my pawn to go the full dragon from the plague. It massacred the Nameless Village except for the 2 child NPCs. This was post nerf and required some micromanagement so it didn't cure itself like it does now. Too bad really, the rumors and tips the community told about dragonsplague was fun. Brought me back to the Dark Souls days!

I just finished the True Ending and have been scrounging for anything related to the themes it presented since so I very much love this hahaha!

Hi, I'm a huge fan of DD can some one explain what is the lore of DD online. I want to know more about the other worlds

Doing my third playthrough now, thanks for these videos!

I got pretty into amalur and then some DLC armor thst was RNG (fishing thief set) never dropped for me despite trying for 3 days and I deleted the game, lol. Fashion

I think Pathfinder is seneschal. Heres my theory. Loooooong. Pathy was the first to reach the seat after DD1 Arisen left it vacant. But with no dragon to test him and no seneschal to beat, he was unworthy. He lacked the creative will to keep the world going. In desperation he hooked himself onto the Brine manifestation of destruction. So we have a dark seneschal with a lack of enough will but lots of corrupted power. To gain the will to perpetuate the world, Pathy cobbled together the weird cycle we see in DD2. It is corrupted. For example the dragon doesn't wreak havoc like in 1 until you beat him. Nor do you get a wish if you sacrifice the beloved. Rothais is the first Arisen to go through the corrupted cycle. My guess is he rejected the seneschal post because Pathy would still be in charge. The Japanese uses the same word Kaiou (like Kaios in Dragonball) for the seneschal both here and DD1. So when he talks about ruling the world he means as seneschal but then tired of someone looking over his shoulder. All the responsibility of a will battery none of the choive. Anyway he leaves and founds Vermund. Pathy decides that he will just stay as god and changes the cycle he set up so Arisens become an earthly king to keep anyone from fighting him to purify the seneschal. I believe the cycle obtains enough will to survive but not enough to thrive creating the false world. And this is fine with a Pathy high on Brine. Remember even the True Daimon could not destroy the cycle just created a little place where it didn't apply.

Even though devs said DD1 and DD2 are different worlds, i can't shake the feeling that the state of the cycle in DD2 is a result of Seneschal's suicide. We know that Rothais is DD2 current Seneschal, but he acts like he doesn't know what he has to do with that role, as if there was no one to guide him and tell the truth. He just inherited the empty throne. And thats why Pathfinder sent many Arisen after him: to make a new Seneschal and a new Red Dragon. But Rothais killed them all and shattered their souls. I think bc of that the Red Dragon we currently have is the same one that was killed by Rothais but is constantly ressurected by Pathfinder, hence why he asks us to break the cycle.

Brother let that accent rip, glorious

The devs have said 1 and 2 are in different universes. You cant really argue against that. It takes place in a parallel one where it seems like it is an alternate timeline. The seneschal didnt necessarily get a nerf to be weaker its more than likely that we are just learning the pecking order. In DD1 there was no concept of multiple parallel worlds so it was believed the seneschal was basically god. Now we know that there may be thousands of seneschals all watching over their own worlds and the great will is the being or thing that is above all of that.

Do you think they will add a dlc? Like dark arisen? Or maybe a dlc with a Mystic Knight adventure! I really hope cause dd2 was a huge let down for me .. sad because i really love dragon's dogma

and so begins. the dark arisen. awww its so beautiful. we are all

I knew something was wrong with the pathfinder when I bought Rook as soon as I could and he gave me dragon's plague.

I'm happy i found this video, i was on the end of my first ng+ and the hypothesis of Rothais having "hijacked" the cycle of the Seneschal was starting to make a lot of sense to me in the last few days. I was really wondering why the Pathfinder would help you get the Godsbane when you don't need it to defeat the dragon, why give you the key to breaking the cycle? Well, simply so you can ultimately kill Rothais. But i think Rothais descending from the sky to rule the land, as the mad arisen in Harve mentioned, somehow broke the cycle, and that's why the Pathfinder had to intervene. Notably, the dragon seems to no longer be able to offer you a proper bargain, all it has to offer is leaving you alone, far from the wish able to reshape the order of the world like in the case of the Dark Arisen. Also, i was wondering what the world being an illusion meant, when it seems like such an important part of the overarching story. The explanation you gave of the world only being given a "consciousness" and a proper existence through the arisen's actions makes a lot of sense, and it reminded me of the Dragon's bargain again. Either sacrifice your beloved for a wish, or defy the Dragon to save their life. In a way, either prove this world matters, exists to you, by risking your life for it, or accept its inexistence, accept that this person is not real and doesn't matter, and shape this unreality with a wish, while being doomed to experience the knowledge that you're stuck in a story without an end. It also reflects the relationship we have as a player with the world we explore and interact with, and i think that's what made the series so impactful for me in retrospect. However, i don't think it's right to think the Pathfinder is the master of the Brine, and chooses to unleash it as a "revenge". I think it's true that the suicide of the Arisen directly unleashed oblivion. For me, the oblivion is not a will to destroy, but the absence of a will to subsist. While there is a will to oppose the decay of the world, the dogma remains, giving shape to the oblivion with one side being the Dragon, manifesting through its opposition the will of the world to exist, and the other being the Brine, ensuring no one could escape the battle. If the will of the world, incarnated in the Arisen, surrenders and refuses to follow the dogma, then the void does the same. I think the Pathfinder simply got discouraged, as he was supposed to put a world back on the cycle able to keep it in place, already made fragile by a previous Seneschal, and saw another Arisen deciding to surrender to escape the dogma despite his warning. At this point he just decided to let it be and let them witness what he was trying to help them prevent. When he talks to the arisen in the unmoored world after you destroy all the beacons, what he expresses seems to me like proper respect, but he just cannot see this story ending in a good way. After the death of the crimson dragon, he expresses real regret to not be able to see what it will turn into now that it is somehow freed from the dogma. That is how i interpret it at least. There are still some questions left unanswered about the lore of the game, one of the weirdest for me being about the Oracle and the previous arisens we meet. The Oracle is supposed to assist with the coronation of each arisen after their victory. Why is she able to be here? Shouldn't she be dead if her dragon was killed by an arisen? If yes, where did her dragon go? Why was it replaced? This part of the lore seems to hide a lot of stuff still.

Im confused coz i though rothas was the one who didnt want to relinquish his seat, and the pathfinder had to intervene. It is the pathfinders job to guide the arisen to whatever will the arisen wants. this is confusing haha

Funfact. The unmoored World is called "Gottlose Welt" in german, which means godless world. This could be a hint, since the brine and rothais are gone. They could have been, in fact, gods. We also can't find the Sphinx anymore. Also, I always wondered about the everfall in the first game. It opens after the dragon was slain. But how comes this never happened to other arisen? Or was just time reverted after? But that doesn't make sense either since gran soren can still be found in dd2. What exactly happened there?

Great video! Please do more Kingdoms of Amalur lore content 😁

It's a shame we dont see the Sphinx in the Unmoored World. She is shown to be a true God. After you slay her, she vanishes in radiant glow, congratulating you and said they will meet again. She is above life and death. It'd be nice to hear her perspective of the world.

My question is, why couldn't the Seneshal intervene himself against this pathfinder.

Love these videos

Cool 😎 🆒️ Video

The thing I think fails on the storytelling end is how becoming overseer of the world is more a punishment than anything. Suicide is factored into it in some manner given it is an option known to the Seneschal. Such a role is not gained by someone capable of the duty and character to caretake the world? I thought that was the entire point. Why is the Seneschal confined to a void and not some domain of whatever scale to inhabit and be comfortable in during the eternal task? It would only make sense instead of inspiring them to commit suicide and viewing all they did as a burden by the end. This is where the storytelling collapses and world-building makes no sense. Capcom has never been the pillar of narrative, yet how they crafted something unsatisfying beyond the trope of 'freedom from divine or god-like authority". What did the pawn have example of that was a positive? It gained independence at the cost of their Arisen growing bored of life and responsibility. The moment is somewhat impactful, but then if you stop to think about it, it's actually stupid.

You gotta keep in mind, a lot of this games lore is inspired by berserk’s. Like the dragons bargain is just the eclipse sacrifice.

I didnt took dragons offer... When everything ended "my beloved" happily exclaimed "They’re masterworks, all. You can’t go wrong." ... and proceeded to happily upgrade weapons i got from the dragon. And now as i am exploring Everfall i have to ferrystone to Cassardis every time i want to upgrade a weapon.

To me the entire world of Dragons Dogma comes off as a very clumsy and poor attempt by some wannabe god. Like some lesser deity went independent country in the rift, built his little nation and because it was so poorly put together it’s so unstable and chaotic. The lesser deity then went, “Man this is too much work, I didn’t sign up for this!” Takes everything and just dumps it into some poor mortals lap and says, “Here! It’s your problem now! F**k this s*hit I’m out! Peace!” Then fades away after giving the peace sign. Lol

I believe there is only one dragon, and while there can be multiple arisen connected to the same dragon, the ones in the bitterblack isle are not of the same time. It is hinted at all over Bitterblack Isles that the arisen that come there are all from different times, as Bitterblack Isles exists outside of time itself, in a sense. Meaning all Arisen on the isle are Arisen either from different worlds connected by the rift, or even different Arisen from the past and future.