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This is just gorgeous 🥺

I always come back to this video every few months to just to lament over c!bedrock bros. Even though I’m not in the mcyt fandom anymore they still hold such a dear spot in my heart. (Anyways it’s a shame you never posted any other video essays, I remember back when this video came out I was really looking forward to more videos from you, since I really liked your voice, style of editing and humor)

Hope u can grow on this narrations

This video is kinda bad tbh

Sorry to be the contrarian here, but I agreed with everything you said. Especially the Jack Manifold big there. Looking forward to watching it someday.

I would like to say I am a c!Techno apologist and would like to say that the Pogtopia arc could have been the other way around if you want, I'll write my view in the replies

This is so beautiful I watch it so much it’s so beautiful and gives me joy I love it so much the pure joyyyyyy!!!!!

After seeing this I thought that the Egg arc could have done this fixing of friendship because they both where the only ones not effect by it

Holy cream may I kiss you on the lips /j Seriously though this is an incredible analysis. My personal interpretation is slightly different but it really does all boil down to it’s a more complicated situation than “one of them was the REAL victim”. This is so cool and well put!

Understandable have a great day 🖐🧍‍♂️👍

Wilbur himself resigned as president and declared Schlatt the victor in the election, so there's really no case that he was the rightful leader of Manberg. If pooling votes was against the law, then Wilbur wouldn't have consented to it. Even if Wilbur was the rightful leader, he doesn't have the right to hand off the title to Tommy or Tubbo after reinstating himself. Normally after a democratic revolution you have new elections, but they never did that, so when Techno says their war amounted to a hostile coup, he is literally correct. Techno also never hid his agenda during the war, he was always an anarchist and worked with them in order to take down Schlatt. He even went so far as to influence Wilbur, who stated when he refused the presidency at the end of the war that he didn't believe in government anymore. So in the end two out of three founders of Pogtopia were opposed to reestablishing a government. The Pogtopia arrangement was clearly a matter of interests aligning in opposition to Schlatt. It wasn't a matter of personal loyalty and friendship really, just necessity. So betrayal there was really a matter of "betraying" Pogtopia's goals in the war - which were what? This is stated in different ways throughout the arc, and as I mentioned, 2/3 of the founders ended the war as anarchists, making Tommy the odd one out, not Techno. So the break down in the alliance there is just a matter interests diverging after they brought down Schlatt. While there may be bad blood, neither side "betrayed" the other because the immediate goal was attained. Compare this to Tommy and Techno's alliance later on. Both are exiled from L'manberg, but you can't really say their interests align. Techno's immediate goal is to commit terrorism on L'.manberg. Tommy's immediate problem is that Dream is torturing him, and he needs to hide with Techno to escape Dream. It's not like Techno needs Tommy to blow up L'manberg. Indeed, he runs a great risk of making Dream an enemy by siding with Tommy. And Tommy's secondary goal, retrieving his disk, doesn't matter to Techno either. So really their interests don't align at all. Tommy is way more trouble than he's worth, but Techno accepts him in his home anyways. By the end of their alliance, Techno demonstrated intense loyalty to Tommy, ultimately standing up to Dream and the entire server in order to protect him. Tommy on the other hand, turned his back on Techno at that very moment. For him, his alliance to Techno was just a matter of necessity, the same way the original alliance was, and once interests divurged, once he gave up on the disks and rejoined L'manberg, he no longer felt any obligation towards Techno. This is the reasons why it's not accurate to say that Tommy is an idealistic or stubborn person because he is actually quite wishy washy about his priorities. Does he want to disks or not? Does he care about L'manberg or not? One moment he is taking hostages and spawning withers in the center of town, the next he joins their side against Techno. One moment he is fighting Tubbo in the community house, the next they are back to being friends. One moment, he is desperately trying to get his disks back, then he lets them fall into Dream's hands. This is his main difference from Techno. Techno surrendered himself to save a horse. He would fight 10 to 1, 20 to 1, or 30 to 1 odds to uphold a promise he has made. The other fundamental difference is that Tommy is not nearly as vengeful as Techno. Techno's intitial attack on L'manberg wasn't so much because it was undemocratic, but because it used him to establish a government, which is the last thing he wanted. Like I said, it's not really a betrayal, because no one ever promise Techno they wouldn't establish a government. More than anything, it was just offensive to him, and he lashed out. Tommy has never done anything quite like that, and after participating in Techno's 'minor' attacks on L'manberg it's clear that he felt bad about it, and that's what motivated his return to L'manberg even though they were the ones who threw him out. Once Techno believes he has been mistreated he has no sense of proportionality in dealing out punishment. Tommy on the other had rarely goes in for revenge. He is not among the various characters who seek out retirbution all the time such as Quackity. We should remember that even after Techno blew up L'manberg, Tommy was the one who wanted to try and team up with him against Dream just prior to being exiled. He also forgives Tubbo for exiling him and has shown remarkably little hatred toward Techno too, despite the fact that L'manburg is only a crater now.

you’re so cool ily

Yuo sound very. Sexy and beautiful young lady

Direct quotation. Well done

Although this is a very well put together video, I do feel like Techno got the short end of the stick, being hunted and all. Even was threatened that if he didn't go, Carl would die. He wasn't given a fair trial, so he immediately sentenced for execution. Tommy, he was only sentenced to exile. Just saiyan, Techno was kind of justified in his beliefs here.

I love this video

Ngl, Tommy's character kinda looks like a dumbass in the context of the things happening in the story

I love this what the heck

YOUR SCRIPT WAS FUXKING INSANE DUDE MASSIVE PROPS TO ALL THE EFFORT DONE YOU TOTALLY SMASHED IT

Absolute BANGER

Finally a person who uses all of their brain power and realize everyone was the bad guy.

You deserve more subscribers my g

i love that you were a meme channel for a while and now suddenly you're making these masterpieces

here like months later but this was honestly a great video. in editing, script (your voice is very nice listen to), analysis, and humor, this was legitimately an amazing video.

This video is really good and it’s quite interesting to watch how their relationship progressed and still progressing despite to the fact that there were no interactions between c!tommy and c!techno for months. Especially with c!Tommy’s acknowledgement that he betrayed Techno (he mentioned it on his Las Nevadas streams) and ‘Techno is in prison? No, I am not going there….. But it’s Techno though, he is sorta like family, you know”. Wonder how it will play out in the future.

I think you forgot to mention the part where techno was transparent about anarchy since he joined the server, let alone pogtopia

the intro gives me so much chills wth

As someone who’s been on Techno’s side most of the time, this video definitely helped me understand the disc betrayal from Tommy’s perspective better. Though I’m still more empathetic with Techno’s reaction than Tommy’s I’ve definitely gained more sympathy

They both seem to want to hate the other more than they do

i cant get over the fact i know who the guy at 2:05 is how do i know this? wtf

"Tommys devotion to his friends and country" that is just, objectively wrong, its been shown multiple times, he cares more about his own goals over his friends.

Anyone gonna call out the Dream has literally be part of the events that cause these betrayals and in the first place whispering in people’s ears like the devil on your shoulder or is that just me?

This video is very underrated wow great work !!

People seem to have forgotten to subscribe to you.

I know the truth, you can’t lie we all know your actually technoblade

I love that last line "in a world where violence is the universal language forgiveness is rebellious" that line literally gave me chills

Remember tommyinnt said in one of his last lore streams he said he betrayed technoblade but he didn’t want to admit it at the time

I think that a fundamental difference between the two is that techno flat out told Tommy that he was going to destroy lmanberg, allowing Tommy to realize that he was going against his beliefs, while pogtopia kind of had this maybe/maybe not thing going, meaning it took dream’s goading for technoblade to fully understand just what was happening. Also if you look in the clip, techno sees Wilbur going to the button, so he knows that (in his views, maybe influenced by the victim thing) Wilbur is “on his side”

"All people are neutral"

what the hell this is so underrated- i've always been on techno's side but i now see the similarities in the characters and how neither of them are necessarily "In the right"

This video is really well made, good job

I feel like Techno is more justifiable, as Tommy and pretty much everyone else from the start, except Phil, only really saw Techno as a weapon, a TOOL for chaos and destruction that they could use to their advantage, treating not only Techno's ideals as an anarchist but humanity, as if non-existent. Techno believes not in government, but he does believe in friends, family, and relationships at a level deeper than Tommy, because he does not feel an immature need for power or government to sustain the state of his relationships. Tommy's relationship and friendship with Tubbo in the story so far has been centered around Tommy's previous immature, selfish need for power and wealth, by showing off and keeping his disks. Dream fell into the rabbit hole of chaos as a response to call upon violence against the chaos that Tommy insued. Everything is around not Tommy, but his relationship between Tubbo and Dream, and how that reflects onto Techno's moral code and sense of self.

techno was always transparent that the supports anarchy

this is the only map of the dream smp I saw and that makes it the best dream smp map I saw.

bro, this analysis is so good. at some point i kept jumping back and forth between being a techno and tommy "apologist" if you can call it that and this video pretty much summarized what i was thinking. so good. also, I'd love to see a jack manifold analysis lol i don't know too much about his lore but didn't he drag himself out of the depths of hell??? I'd love to see what other people think about his character

When she said that embracing forgiveness and empathy is an act of rebellion, I audibly said OH SNAP.

Hold on techno has stated that he wants to get rid of Lunenburg

Yay im the 724th Subscriber

OP was so clearly like "techno made it clear he wanted to take down governments while simultaneously actively aiding in the reinstitution of one" and all the techno apologists with no critical thinking skills are trying to refute it with "actually techno made it clear he wanted to take down governments therefore he couldn't have betrayed them" bro?? they never said he didn't, they said he made that clear- and still blatantly helped them when THEY made it clear they wanted to bring back their own??