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It's unfortunate that we can't hear the audience's questions because they add to the understanding of Michael Heiser's responses.

The serpent is NOT a fallen angel!!!. ... look at the curses!... 2 are literal, Adam and Eve ... and one is symbolic, the serpent.... Hebrew is a pictoral language in many instances.... the serpent being cursed is symbolic of something, and it's not another person, or animal, or fallen angel ....

Prophecy is cryptic. The sequential end time narrative is found in Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke 21. If you use this as the backbone of prophecy, and harmonize the other passages that allude to that time, it’s a little more clear. This is why I tend believe the “rapture” is also the second coming. In the Gospels, the “gathering” comes at the very end. I also don’t see a 3rd temple commissioned and the Temple mentioned in Revelation is too big to be built by humans. This is also true of the future temple passage in Ezekiel. But we will see…soon at this rate. Also, why do dispensationalists want to support the building of a new temple if it’s clear that will bring in the anti-Christ? Seriously now.

Simple, it's Satan.

Devine plurality? Where is that term in the scripture?

Heiser was a blind guide. He was correct in God/Elohim capital "G" and gods/elohim lower case "g" but his application was all wrong. From Heiser's Chapter 1 Unseen Realm "One such moment in my own life-the catalyst behind this book-came on a Sunday morning in church while I was in graduate school. I was chatting with a friend who, like me, was working on a PhD in Hebrew studies, killing a few minutes before the service started. I don’t recall much of the conversation, though I’m sure it was something about Old Testament theology. But I’ll never forget how it ended. My friend handed me his Hebrew Bible, open to Psalm 82 He said simply, “Here, read that … look at it closely.” The first verse hit me like a bolt of lightning: Psalm 82:1 God stands in the divine assembly; he administers judgment in the midst of the gods I’ve indicated the Hebrew wording that caught my eye and put my heart in my throat. The word elohim occurs twice in this short verse. Other than the covenant name, Yahweh, it’s the most common word in the Old Testament for God. And the first use of the word in this verse worked fine. But since I knew my Hebrew grammar, I saw immediately that the second instance needed to be translated as plural. There it was, plain as day: The God of the Old Testament was part of an assembly-a pantheon-of other gods." >>>>Okay this is from Heiser’s book the “Unseen Realm” Chapter 1 in his opening of this book. Let’s look at the word “pantheon”, this one word changes everything about Heiser’s theory. Heiser’s view of pantheon of other gods is spiritual/non-human/angelic, what most people do not know is that the word pantheon has a dual meaning, so it is not just pantheon spiritual gods. Let’s look at dictionary definiton for the word “pantheon” 1) a group of particularly respected, famous, or important people: somewhat formal : a group of people who are famous or important "the pantheon of the all-time greats" example: a building in which the illustrious dead of a nation are buried or honoured. 2) all the gods of a people or religion collectively: the gods of a particular country or group of people "the deities of the Hindu pantheon" (especially in ancient Greece and Rome) a temple dedicated to all the gods. So with the definition can apply to both 1) people and 2)pagan gods. What Heiser did when it came to Psalm 82, he applied the pagan god (elohim) meaning to the pantheon, which is the second use of the word pantheon, this is where he error's from the first chapter in his book the unseen realm. What Heiser should have done is apply the “FIRST” meaning of the word pantheon to the gods/elohim in Psalm 82, which would be people. When a person applies the “FIRST” meaning Israel now fits in Psalm 82 as the gods/elohim. Israel is Jacob’s decendents made up of 12 tribes. Psalm 82 is totally about Israel (Jacob’s decendents). Israel is the “Chosen People” of God in that time period, Israel is important because Jesus Christ, the Messiah would come through that people group, Jesus came from the tribe of Judah, Judah is how we get the term “Jew” from. So the pantheon of gods/elohim would be Israel all of Israel, which would consist of people that are Judges, Rulers, Kings, Elders and even the common Israelite person. So when a person Pairs up Psalm 82 and John 10 Israel, Jacob's decendents/12 tribes makes more sense. Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;>>>>>>Israel<<<< John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," This is not all of Israel, but a group of Israelites, made up of Israelite (Jews) citizens and probably Jewish leaders like Scripes, Elders and Pharisees, Jesus did draw crowds. Notice Jesus mentions the law (Law of Moses) and word of the Lord came to these People, the chosen People Israel (Jacob's decendents/Jews). The word of the Lord would come to Israel and the prophets of Israel, so in the NEW TESTAMENT Jesus can fulfill those words. Another good example is found in Isaiah 53 So what Jesus does is actually answer the question of the pantheon gods/elohim from Psalm 82 in John 10. Jesus is God and using an "I said" declaration, the "I said" is not different the an "I am" declaration. Israel are the gods/elohim/theos as will the divine council, great assembly and congregation of the mighty, the Hebrew, Greek and English language DOES NOT change this, meaning Israel being the godselohim>>pantheon<< refering to people, the "Chosen People" With Heiser's theory he ended up OPPOSING Jesus, Jesus answers who the pantheon gods are in scripture. Jesus settles this for us long before Heiser was even born. Just simply comes down to if a person beleives the gods/elohim are human or non-human, clearly the gods/elohim are human, the Chosen People. Another question for all Heiser subscribers, you would have to point out in scripture where Heiser's pantheon gods/elohim (spirit beings/nonhuman/angels) were given the law (Law of Moses) or in possession of the law, also when did the word of the Lord Heiser's Heiser's pantheon gods/elohim (spirit beings/nonhuman/angels)????? Guess What>>>>>>You wil Never find it in the Bible!!

There are several problems with Heiser's claims. The first is that he conflates passages that do not speak of the same thing. For example, in Psalm 82, God is judging ON EARTH the affairs of humans, which means those "gods" are not "divine beings" but human judges or rulers. We see in Scripture only humans being guilty of what's stated in Psalm 82:2-4. Nowhere do we see any "divine beings" showing partiality to the human wicked. Then, Heiser falsely assumes that Psalm 89 is speaking of the same things as Ps. 82, when Ps. 82 speaks of judgment ON EARTH (vs. 8), and Ps. 89 speaks of things "in the heavens" (vs. 6). So Heiser is guilty of many fallacies, and sadly too many people have blindly followed him in his errors. For those interested, myself and the author of the book "The UnBiblical Realm: Refuting the Divine Council of Michael Heiser's Deuteronomy 32 Worldview" have done a series of videos explaining in detail the many problems with Heiser's theology. Visit my channel and search for the playlist called "The UnBiblical Realm (Part 1): Refuting Michael Heiser's Divine Council w/Heath Henning."

I believe it was a fallen angel. And I'm really hoping heaven is free of snakes.

Miss this man❤

My favorite Biblical teacher, wifey likes Steve Gregg more then Dr Heiser..For me Visa versa. The Ancient Israelites Had It Right, But By Time Jesus Arrived He Showed Em They'd Left It For Men's Traditions. 1st Century Church Had It Right, But After First 100 years, who knows.. WILL He Find Faith On The Earth when He Returns.? Think about all This. Great video

This might be Dr Heiser's shortest video but it is giving a wealth of info for the deligent. May he rest in peace

Pre mil pre trib looks for the apostasy of the church to happen before the rapture.

Wow this really helped understand eschatology. The first view I heard was pre trib pre mill. And I studied that alot but I didn't understand the other views and I didn't get the big picture. I couldn't figure out where all the confusion was coming from. I just wanted to know which one was correct so I could follow that belief but now I know that no position is for sure which really frees me from getting butthurt from people hating on my position. Michael knows the truth now RIP.

When did the pre-mill, pre-trib doctrine begin in Christian theology?

Isreal is currently trying to build the temple and has the red heifers waiting to commemorate its build

Israel are the "gods" in Psalm 82, the "gods" are human NOT nonhuman like this Heiser guy promoted. Psalm 89 has nothing to do with Psalm 82 Israel was unique from the pagan nations that surrounded them, Israel had the law of God, 10 commandment, prophets and a Levitical priesthood. Since Israel had the law of God, it put Israel in the position of being "gods," becuase God chose them, Israel was God's chosen people. Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," 1. >>>>"I said, “You are gods” >>>>>ONCE by the God (Father) in Psalm 82. Aspaph is the Author and Psalmist of Psalm 82. Prophets of the Old Testament like Asaph the "word of the Lord" would come to Prophets like Asaph. Prophets were the "Voice" of God. God (Father) would communicate His words through the prophets, God does that here in Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;">>>>>>>>Israel, Psalm 82 uses the word "all". This clearly is not about a bunch of watchers/super angels of a divine council. The Psalms were written to and for Israel. 2. SECOND time Jesus in John 10: 34 Repeats >>>> ‘I said, “You are gods” <<<<< Jesus is addressing humans in this text, the humans are Israel, we know that, becasue the text in John 10:34-35 Jesus also tells us in scripture in John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," A few verses before Jesus says to His audience is John 10:30 "I and the Father are one." This points to the Trintiy as One, the Trinity is One and the Same God made up of THREE persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. In this part of scripture are Two persons of God, the Father and the Son. That is why you Pair up " I said, “You are gods" in Psalm 82:6 and John 10:34 The law Jesus is talking about is the "law" God gave Moses in verse 34 and in verse 35 "gods" (Israel) is to the word of God came, which would be prophets of the OT, like Moses, Asaph, and ect.. Okay lets look into this. People like Mike Heiser beleived that the audience and listeners (gods/elohim/sons) of Psalm 82 is about a bunch of watchers/super angels of a divne council being addressed and talked to in the heavens in the spiritual realm. So that would mean that Jesus would be in the heavens in the spiritual realm addressing His audience in John 10: 34, that makes ZERO sense and No logic!!! Very Clear that Jesus in John 10 and all of the NT Jesus is in the Physical realm addressing humans, so that would mean that Humans are being addressed in Psalm 82 in the physical realm, Heiser taught that Pslam 82 is in the spiritual realm about a bunch of non human spirit beings (watchers/super angels) totally false, that is why Jesus answers the question of the "gods" of Psalm 82 in John 10, Hesier blindly oppossed Jesus, which is anti-Christ. Something else to point out since Israel are the "gods" of Psalm 82. The people of the nation of Israel would sing the Psalms, really no different than today when a Christians go to church Hymns and worship songs are sang, so I really hard to believe the Heiser's "gods"/divine council made up of a bunch of watchers/super angels sang the Psalms. Another point is since Israel was God's chosen people, they had the Law, word of the Lord, prophets of God, ect... it elavated them to represent God different from the surrounding pagan nations, that is why Israel (Jacob's decendents) are called "gods" both in Psalm 82 and then by Jesus in John 10, of course Jesus was addressing a small group of Israelites in John 10, not "all" of Israel like in Psalm 82. Remember Israel would sing these Psalms and were the chosen people. Israel as a son>>>>> Exodus 4:22 You are to say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the Lord says: “Israel is my firstborn son." If you know your bible Jacob is Israel and there would be 12 sons borns to Jacob, which make up the 12 tribes of Israel. When a person reads Psalm 82:6 when it mentions "sons" it is referring to the 12 tribes of Israel in the physical world. In reality what a person can get from scripture is that Jesus tells us who the "gods/elohim" are in Psalm 82 when we read John 10 34-35. Jesus is the One who fulfills the words of the prophets from the OT in the NT, that is why Jesus REPEATED the exact words " I said, “You are gods, from Psalm 82 (God/Father) in John 10 (God/Son). Something else to Notice in Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, ALL of you;" Notice the word "ALL" at the end of the verse, the "ALL" is refering to "ALL" of Israel. The gods/elohim/divine council in Psalm 82 are not disembodied spirits ,watchers, angelic or nonhuman spirit beings, they are Israel, all of Israel (Jacob's descendents) which would include judges, elders, rulers, kings, and the common Isrealite citizen. My view is Jesus tells us who the "gods" are of Psalm 82 in John 10.

Deuteronomy 32 Genesis 6 sons of God Explained!! No such thing as a divine coucnil like Heiser claimed. False Teaching!! Heiser is correct when he said it should be sons of God in Deuteronomy 32:8. Heiser was a word guy the Hebrew would be >>>>(בני האלהים‎, bənê hāʼĕlōhîm<<<< So Heiser "Translation" is Correct, But Heiser's "Application" is Incorrect. To touch on the Greek Septuagint is in ERROR, becasue it put angels in the text, reason why is the Greeks believed that the pagan god Zeus (king of the gods), married and impregnated mortal human woman Alcmene and she gave birth to Heracles. So a person can see instead of Zeus, that angels was the thought in the Greek Septuagint, because of Greek Mythology. This thought was inserted into sons of God of Genesis which is an ERROR. Why Application is Incorrect is because of the Context. A person Cannont just look at verse 8. Let's look at more Context with verse 7 included. Deuteronomy 32 7 Remember the days of old; consider the years of many generations; ask your father, and he will show you, your elders, and they will tell you. 8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. KEY words are "MANY GENERATIONS" in verse 7 this is all in CONTEXT. One Translation may use "sons of God" may another may use "children of Israel". The sons of God are found in Genesis 5 the years of Many Generations. Many people do not NOT recognize " The Years of MANY GENERATIONS" in verse 7. Where you find " The Years of MANY GENERATIONS" is in Genesis 5. The Patriarchs of Genesis 5 are the sons of God, listed from Adam to Noah which is Genesis 5. What is posted is chapter and verse with the years of Many Generations that they lived. Here they are for you, look at the longivity of Life they had and would have saw "Many Generations" (Deuteronomy 32:7), this just makes sense. Also what is list is up to Jacob (Israel). 1) Adam (Genesis 5:3-5) Lived: 930 Years. 12) Arphaxad (Genesis 11: 12-13) Lived 438 Years 2) Seth (Genesis 5:3, 6-8) Lived: 912 Years. 13) Shelah Genesis (11: 14-15) Lived 433 Years 3) Enosh (Genesis 5:6, 9-11) Lived: 905 Years. 14) Eber Genesis (11: 16-17) Lived 464 Years 4) Cainan (Genesis 5:9, 12-14) Lived: 910 Years. 15) Peleg Genesis (11: 18-19) Lived 239 Years 5) Mahalalel (Genesis 5:12, 15-18) Lived 895 Years. 16) Reu Genesis (11: 20-21) Lived 239 Years 6) Jared (Genesis 5:15, 18-20) Lived 962 Years. 17) Serug Genesis (11: 22-23) Lived 230 Years 7) Enoch (Genesis 5:18, 21-24) Lived 365 Years/Translated never saw death. 18) Nahor Genesis (11: 22-23) Lived 148 Years 8) Methuselah (Genesis 5:21, 25-27) Lived 969 Years. 19) Terah Genesis (11: 32) Lived 205 Years 9) Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lived 777 Years. 20) Abram (Abraham) (Genesis 25: 7) Lived 175 Years 10) Noah (Genesis 5:28-29) Lived 950 Years. 21) Isaac (Genesis 25: 7) Lived 180 Years 11) Shem (Genesis 10:10-11) Lived 600 Years. 22) Jacob (Israel) (Genesis 47: 28) Lived 147 Years Genesis 5 would also be in Context with the sons of God of Genesis 6. When scripture was first written in Hebrew there was NO Chapter Breaks or Verse Breaks. Today with Chapter Breaks and Verse Breaks it is easier to look up passages of scripture. Another Point with verse 7 of Dueteronomy 32 is >>>>"Remember the days of old". Since Mose wrote Torah, the first 5 books of the Bible, which are Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. These "days of old" that Moses mention in verse 7, what Moses is doing is taking the reader back to the Pre-flood time period. Taking Verse 7 (Remember the Days of Old; consider the years of Many Generations;) Can 100% be applied as "sons of God" in Deuteronomy 32:8 as well as Genesis 5 and sons of God in Genesis 6. All makes sense and fits with the Author of Torah who is Moses. The argument is, is that there No Abrahamic covenant yet, that is 100% true when a person applies verse 7 (Remember the Days of Old; consider the years of Many Generations;) it is more clear and plain to see who the "sons of God" are in both Deuteronomy 32:8 and Genesis 6 Nations are named after a father in scripture. Abraham is considered a father. Jacob (Israel) is the father of the twelve tribes. Explaining sons of Israel. Exodus 4:22 says "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son". God is speaking to Moses in this passage, also this is another book of Torah. The passage of scripture of the name change for Jacob to Israel Genesis 32:28 "Then he said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel, for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” Israel (Jacob) had 12 sons which would be 12 tirbes with Many Generations. Getting back to Exodus 4:22 says "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son". Since Israel was the "firstborn son" to the Lord God, which would means Israel/Jacobs offspring would be "sons of God" or also to say "children of Israel" The twelve tribes are as follows: Reuben, Simeon, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Benjamin, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Ephraim and Manasseh. See how many Generations came from Isreal (Jacob) Even the following verses of how the "Text" allows for "sons of Israel" . Deuteromony 32:9 'But the Lord's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage. 10 “He found him in a desert land, and in the howling waste of the wilderness; he encircled him, he cared for him" Clearly verses 9 and 10 is talking about the "sons of Israel" which would be Jacob's 12 sons/tribes, key words in the text Jacob alotted heritage (Israel). "The Lord's portion is his people" Israel was the Lord's Chosen people The 12 tribes were the ones wondering in the desert land which verse 10 is talking about. That is WHY there is such a debate in the text, both sons of God and children of Israel had "Many Generations". Heiser's divine council of super angels Can Not or Do Not have "Many Generations" Even looking at Psalm 82:6 "I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;" The word "sons" is used in the Plurality, which would be referencing that the "sons" are human pretaining to the 12 tribes of Israel (Jacob's sons). The word "gods" Jesus answers that in John 10 also human. Heiser taught gods/elohim and sons are non human, Psalm 82 is his foundation for his false divine council of super angels. These 12 tirbes (Israel) had the Law of God to govern the people. Elders/Rulers/Judges (gods/elohim/divine council) were part of that governing authority. Nothing angelic (Nonhuman) could govern the people. So naturally Humans are getting scolded in Psalm 82, not anything Nonhuman like angels or spirit beings of a divine council. The "divine council" are the Chosen people of God who given the Law of God. Also had the True Prophets of God. The proper way of interpreting the scripture of Deuteronomy 32:8 whether it should be sons of God or children of Israel? Well which came first the Patriarchs/sons of God, of Genesis 5 and 6 or 12 tribes of Israel, of course it would be the Patriarchs/sons of God which are listed in Genesis 5 with "Many Generations" the longivity of life spans that they would have seen "Many Generations" and did lived old ages. This is ALL in Context, Context Is King!! Have to remember when scripture was first written there were no chapter breaks or verse breaks, that was added later in English Translations of scipture. Small summary, Moses tells us who the sons of God are with Remember the Days of Old; consider the years of Many Generations in verse 7 would be Applied to sons of God. Deuteronomy 32 7 Remember the days of old; consider the years of many generations; ask your father, and he will show you, your elders, and they will tell you. 8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. Clearly this is NOT about a divine council of super angels. This Heiser guy did NOT understand verse 7 (Remember the Days of Old; consider the years of Many Generations;) or Context applied with proper Hermeneutics. He WAS a Blind and False Teacher of scripture when it came to Application, but he was correct in the Translaton of the words sons of God in Deuteronomy 32:8.

9:28 Heiser calls God “species unique”, very disturbing. God is NOT a species!!

I'm not sure that the "so on, and so forth", at 27:48 was unintentional but he left out pertinent information. Verse two is now know longer referencing our gathering to the Lord. We know this for certain because the context of verse two has shifted to the tribulation. Paul wouldn't imply they believed he sent a letter informing them of their recent rapture. It actually reads ...or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of the great tribulation had come which also will not take place unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed.

Does this mean that those who are elect become elect through interaction with believers (access to the truth of the Gospel)?

Nice slide show and typical for a pre-rabture study but no real biblical truth. Be honest with the scripture and take nothing out of context. Blessings!

Interesting, I get where you are coming from but it does seem to place a little too much weight on the human aspect of inspiration. I agree inspiration isn't a paranormal seance medium like event however God was present and placing limitations and giving direction a bit more than I think is allowed for here. God told Moses to write these things that I tell you down. So the context of the grammar for example is much more than just a prepositional phrase standing on its own. Know that in the Torah Moses says he was instructed by God to write certain things down and then Jesus recognizes Moses as the author of the Torah we have to understand that in that context of the whole of scripture for example "law of Moses" then means the Law written down or recorded by Moses. I would take it then that Dr Heiser might agree with the inerrancy of scripture but not necessarily the infallibility of scripture. If God says that His word is Truth does He mean truth with some inaccuracies. Well then how do we handle the differences in the eyewitness accounts of the Gospels? Were there two angels at the tomb or one angel? My friend has a good answer "If there are two then there is also one". The gospels are made of 3 eye witness accounts and 1 journalistic researched compilation from witnesses. God wanted them to write what they saw and give witness to what they heard. Moses on the other hand was directed to record the creation and he did so using phenomenal language, describing with language what God showed him from the stand point of the Spirit hovering over the waters. So then if God is a God of truth and wants to lead us into all truth would he accomplish this through inaccurate, fallible accounts? I like Dr Heiser's teachings and I do believe we can learn a lot from the context of the writers that will open up greater understandings but it will not necessarily change any plain meanings in scripture.

Luke 21 20-24, their generation, it was all I'm the 1st century. According to scripture all is all.

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12:30 dr. heiser has very deep insight into so many aspects of scriptures especially those that have eluded even "great" scholars of it. i am hopeful he will start studying the weekly sabbath and all the other appointed times god commanded and his covenant people to have.

5:24 god created us in his own image and likeness. that includes having free will. humans, like god, can plan things and get things moving toward that direction, without necessarily exercising 100% control of how it can be done. humans, like god, can do mitigation, re-direction, repurpose etc. when things do not turn out exactly how it is planned. plan b is another option. but god, with all his knowledge, wisdom, power can do infinitely better in getting what he plans (revealed as prophecies) than man can do with his intricately planned outcome. so no. pre-destination is not needed for god to get his plan done.

Every person is Per the Son! Jesus is the archetype of all things! Great topic btw

This makes so much sense but I have a hard time understanding why God would give most of the world away in a sense just to punish people? For not worshiping him

Heiser sure loves his goofy theory of the divine council, he gets this nonsense from Psalm 82. Heiser NEVER explains the "Job Description" of prophets in the Old Testament. Most people are even unaware of who wrote Psalm 82. Asaph the Prophet writes ESV Psalm 82: 1 "God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.” When a person read it in the original Hebrew, and you will see the difference between Yahweh as Elohim above all Elohim and the council itself as a lower classification of elohim. Jesus answers the lower classification of elohim (gods) in John 10: 34 35. John the Disciple/Apsotle writes Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), The lower class of elohim (gods) in Psalm 82 are human NOT non human/angels like Heiser promotes. WHY because the word of the Lord came to Prophets, God Spoke thru Prophets to the nation of Israel/Jews (Human). The Jews were also given the Law and had the Prophets. NO nonhuman/angel is ever referred to as a Prophet in scripture or were given the Law, Of course angels are messengers in scripture, but that is it. This is the "Job Description" of a prophet like Asaph who wrote Psalm 82. The Law and Holy Scriptures were given to the nation of Israel/Jews NOT to non humans/angels. How God takes His place in the divine council is by the Prophet Asaph who wrote Psalm 82 and by the Law which was given to the Nation of Israel. What is KEY is that a Prophet of God like Asaph carried and handled the words of the Lord God, Prophets were the VOICE of God that is why it is IMPORTANT that Jesus Repeats and Fulfills these words...... Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.” ........John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," Notice there is a lot happening with the words Jesus uses John 10 1. Verse 34, Jesus says....... "Is it not written in your law">>>>>This tells us that Jesus is addressing Humans (Pharisees/Rulers/Jews) in John 10. The Jews/nation of Israel was given the Law, which would be the Law of Moses. 2. Verse 34, Jesus says...... "I said" "You are gods". What the "I said" is, is a declaration of Jesus as God. The "I said" is not different than an "I am" declaration", Jesus is God and is the Son of God. Another point with the "I said" of Jesus is that He is REPEATING this from the Old Testament which is found in Psalm 82, this is not just a mere qoute of Jesus, but an REPEAT of what God spoke thru the prophet Asaph........... Psalm 82: 1 "God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.” Since Jesus is God and is addressing HUMANS in John 10 and is REPEATING what God said when He spoke thru the prophet Asaph in Psalm 82, that means the "gods/elohim" in Psalm 82 are also HUMAN (Judges.Rulers.Jews), Jesus Literally answers the question of the "gods/elohim" in Psalm 82. NOTE: ESV uses "divine council" other translations use "congregation of the mighty" or "great assembly". 3. Verse 35. "If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),"....Here again "gods" is used which refer to Humans (Judge/Pharisees/Rulers/Jews). Notice the text also says..."to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), This again goes back to the Old Testament, because God would speak thru prophets in the Old Testament, like Asaph who wrote Psalm 82. Asaph was the "Voice" of God to the Jews, like all prophets in the Old Testament are the "Voice" of God. 4. So when a person puts the "gods/elohim" in Psalm 82 and who God is adresseing thru the prophet Asaph>>>>>>>Psalm 82: 1 "God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.” Now you apply Jesus and the "gods" He is adressing in John 10>>>>>>>John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),"...........A person can CLEARLY see that the "gods/elohim" are HUMAN in both Psalm 82 and John 10. God Inspires and Lifts up Prophets in the Old Testament so Jesus can FULFILL what is written and spoken in the Old Testament Fulfilled by Jesus in the New Testament. Jesus holds the answer of the "gods" (lower class elohim/gods), they are human in both Psalm 82 and John 10. What Heiser does is that he opposes Jesus in trying to answer the question on who the gods/elohim are in Psalm 82. Heiser throughs Jesus under the bus on his explantion of Psalm 82. Heiser is a blind teacher teaching in darkness, without the Light of Christ, Jesus tells us in scripture on who these "gods/elohim" are, long before Heiser even walked this earth. Just let the prophet Asaph be the "Voice" of God so Jesus can repeat and fulfill what was spoken and written in the Old Testament. Even Isaiah the prophet who wrote Isaiah 53 was the "Voice" of God in the Old Testament, so Jesus can Fulfill what was said in Isaiah 53.....Isaiah 53 is about the Crucifixion of Christ. Aslo Psalm 89 has NOTHING to do with Psalm 82. Hieser likes to mix those chapters together.

Good stuff Dr. Mike!

I just let it pan out. That's why I'm a pan- millennialist

I wonder if the god's were born or how were they created? Were these lesser god's created as adult beings and where does Jesus fit in this as the son of God manifest in the flesh

21:40 we only see a narrow portion of the spectrum of light, it’s a good thing too!

In Yeshua’s name, Amen

shouldn't the sign of the Son of Man be Jesus coming in power and great glory?

It seems this explanation neglects two critical things you have so well-explained about the "exile" and well-demonstrated elsewhere: 1. Of *_all_* Israel, who were "called", "elect" and "foreknown" to God, many will not be "chosen" for heaven _because_ 2. Despite being God's "elect", the ones God "called", and the very people God arrayed with everything they needed _to respond to their calling_ ("what more could I have done for my vineyard") they did not respond in faith in God but pursued faith in Baal instead. Rom 8:28 begins with the qualification of "τοῖς ἀγαπῶσιν τὸν θεὸν" which sorts from among ALL the people God "called", "foreknew" and "predestined" according to their RESPONSE to God's calling "according to His purpose"... In fact it appears that Paul is referring to all the PAST evidence we have demonstrating that those who responded to God's calling in faith enjoyed the certainty of his conclusions that follow in verses 29-39. Whereas Romans 11:2 Paul refers to *_ALL_* those whom God foreknew, Romans 8:28-39 Paul has narrowed down the focus exclusively to refer thereafter exclusively to those who LOVE GOD... ALL the children of Israel were the people "foreknown", "called" and "predestinated to be conformed to the imagine of God's Son" *_IF they responded in faith_* to God's calling but as Paul explains in Romans 9:32 "they sought it not by faith" and Jesus demonstrates in Matt 22:1-14 parable form: MANY are called, few are chosen because they did not put on a "wedding garment".

maybe "The Bible Project" picked up on your work... ruclips.net/video/e1rai6WoOJU/видео.html

Hello Jesus is the Messiah The Son of God The Son of David The Son of man The man God has chosen to be his anointed king The man God will judge the world through The man God raised from the dead Jesus has a God There is no triune god in scripture Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. -

The serpent in Genesis is a Fallen Angel!

Star == st.ar == st.heir St == snake on the cross Ar == er == heir The star in the holy writ script is Jesus and His body follows after Him in series.

God divides (di.V.id.e) to move you through the cross so you can get your identity back by his spirit(e). Di == divided mind Id == identity E == espirit God always uses mankind's divided mind to draw him back to source. Takes many dispensations to dispence the medicine of truth. Med- i sin,, cycles of sin will draw you to cry out for truth. Crisis == cry.sis Gene.sis Sys.tem Flesh mind is divided and needs the spirit mind to move from partiality to wholeness.. Division is the birthing process. Ye must be born again.

So the womans tempted by the devil and the man's tempted by the woman

I'm praying for Dr. Heiser.

So... a brazen or bronze serpent then becomes a Savior in the wilderness when the people are bitten by fiery serpents. Ugh. What in the world??? AND right after God commands no carving of anything- commandment #2. No graven images. This is so confusing!

Where is the follow on?

As always your on target Although you made strong evidence that the counsel are god's Yet you have no knowledge of who these gods are Some people say the counsel is God, Jesus, Holy Spirit Others say it's the Palladian Yet you leave this question opened

This sounds a lot like Molinism, which is my theological view of the predestination, foreknowledge and salvation debate.

Does your argument hold up when using the KJB?

There is no one like I Am/YHWH/Jehovah. He is Infinite.

Psalm 82 expalined Heiser brings Polythiesim into Psalm 82 in his teaching and is in error. Psalm 89 is a vision in Heaven, while Psalm 82 is on the earth. Psalm 89 has no connection to Psalm 82. Heiser uses Psalm 89 with his teaching on Psalm 82. Psalm 89 is more in line with Revelation 4 and the 24 Elders. The 24 Elders as Adopted, Faithful, Patriarchs, Judges or maybe even kings of the OT. Plus Psalm 89 is written by a different Prophet, Ethan. Psalm 82 was written by Asaph. Both are inspired by God. When it mentions the scripture cannot be broken is about the God of the OT is the same God in the NT in the person of Jesus. The Three persons of God as One and the Same God. Bascially the Father in the OT and the Son in the NT, still the same God. John 10: 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)" Notice in the this verse mentions the "word of God" Jesus Links himself to the same God that spoken thru the Prophet Asaph in Psalm 82. Psalm 82 is for the Jews and directed to the Jews. The Jews received the word of God from Prophets as well as the law. The word of God and the law was for the Jews that is the Divine council. Heiser's Divine Council theory is sensationalism, meaning he is not accurate. Where most fail, like Heiser is they do not expand on the “word” of the Lord in 3 forms. The “word” of the Lord would come to Prophets like Asaph who wrote Psalm 82. First the “word” was either “Spoken” and Second the “word” was written, this is how the scripture is given, so this is TWO forms of the “word” of the Lord. The Third form is in Jesus, since we are looking at Psalm 82 and John 10, we know that John is the Inspired Author for the Gospel of John. John wrote in John 1:14 “14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.” This is how the scripture cannot be broken, linking the OT with the NT with the same God. Heiser and others like him aslo fail because they do not explain the Godhead/Trinity. Jesus is God as the person as the Son. There are THREE Persons of God within the Godhead....Father, Son, and Holy Spirit>>>The Godhead/Trinity. The problem with most scholars and students of the Bible is that they do not expand on the 3 persons of God, who are the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as well as the word/Word>>>>>Spoken, Writen, and Flesh. The other failure is explaining the gods of the OT of Psalm 82 and the gods of the NT John 10. Jesus answers the question on who the Psalm 82 gods are in John 10. Jesus quotes and repeats what God the Father had spoken thru the Inspired Prophet Asaph, Again Asaph wrote in Psalm 82:6 - “I said, you are gods.” Jesus says in John 10:34 “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” Here in John 10:34 Jesus links himself to the same God (Father) in Psalm 82. The phrase and title given "you are gods" is a legalistic title of Authority because the Jews were given the Law. The Jews were given the Law and 10 commandments to govern them and council them, so it is imposible for this to be nonhuman spirit beings or angels. God also established covenants with Humans, not nonhuman spirit beings or angels. For the Jews their Religion and Governig was together, not like the USA where there is a seperation of church and state. Jesus says in 10: 34 “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” Asaph wrote in Psalm 78 the Jews having the law. Psalm 78: 9 The men of Ephraim, though armed with bows, turned back on the day of battle 10 they did not keep God’s covenant and refused to live by his law." In Psalm 78 is more of a reminder chapter for the nation of Isarel. In John 10 Jesus is equating Himself to the same God in Psalm 82, Jesus uses an "I said" statement. Let's focus in on the words Jesus uses,. He uses an ‘I said”. The “I said” stament is no different than an “I am” statement. The “I am” statemanets and “I said” statement of Jesus in the Gospel of John are really one and the same. These are not metaphors; rather, they are declarations of God’s name, as applied by Jesus to Himself. The first instance of an “I am” comes as Jesus responds to a complaint by the Pharisees. “I tell you the truth,” Jesus says, “before Abraham was born, I am!” (John 8:58). The verbs Jesus uses are in stark contrast with each other: Abraham was, but I am. There is no doubt that the Jews understood Jesus’ claim to be the eternal God incarnate, because they took up stones to kill Him (verse 59 that would be blasphemy to the Jews because Jesus made Himself out to be God). The same logic is applied to John 10:35, Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” which directly comes from Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.” A person can clearly see in Psalm 82 and in John 10 it would be Jews being addressed, not nonhuman spirit beings or angels, like some promote, which Mr. Heiser is Huge on, this made him famous. Heiser is a blind teacher. Smart on Hebrew language and how to speak (Very Inticing and Luring), But bad on Application and Interpretation. Heiser Ignores In John 10 and Psalm 82 1. The law (Authority for the Jews and Jewish Elders/Judges) Also see In Exodus 22:8 & 9 here is where a person can find how the role of these Elders/Judges ("gods" or "elohim), established by Moses. The law was given to Moses. 2. The prophet (Asaph wrote Psalm 82) 3. The " I said" (word/Word of the Lord Written/Spoken thru Prophets in OT Revealed in NT Word bacame Flesh>>>>Jesus/Son). 4. Linking OT Scripture with NT Scripture (Scripture cannot be broken). 5. Psalm 82 and John 10 are directed to Jews, NOT Polythiesm nonhuman spirit being or angels like Mr. Heiser promotes. 6. Explainig the Godhead/Trinity as always existed even before creation, Father, Son, Holy Spirit are THREE persons of ONE and the SAME God, 7. Expalining since the Jews had this law of God and from God, Puts them in a High level of Authority to Judge and carry out the law of God and represent God, but they will die like men becasue they do a poor job of representing God and the law. Psalm 82 6 & 7 NKJV, "I said, “You are ‘gods’; you are all sons of the Most High.”7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.’ ESV I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you, nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince.” This is also a huge argument with Hieser and his followers, but is decieving and many are mislead on Heiser's teaching. Man (mortal/flesh) is under the Curse of death, becasue sin leads to death. The Curse happed in Genesis 3 and the fall of man. Romans 5: 12 "Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned" Also since God created man from the ground and dies, so man retrurns to the ground. Genesis 3: 17-19 To Adam he said, ‘Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, “You must not eat from it, ‘Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken, for dust you are and to dust you will return.’ Very clear since they die like men it is fitting these men return to the ground from which man (mortal/flesh) came and fall like every ruler/prince (mortal/flesh). God has the Supreme Authority and Rule over the Jews and the whole earth and all rullers. Heiser blindly uses replacement theology with the rulers/princes he replaces the mortal/flesh with nonhuman/spirits that is where Ploytheism comes into play with his teaching. Again, Very poor on Interpreatation and Application.Another huge problem with Heiser is he is not Solo Scripture and does not let Scripture define Scripture. Another note in Psalm 82 :6 "you are all sons of the Most High". The word "sons" is used, meaning this is Adopted sons, not nonhuman/spirits or angels. That is also replacement theology, Heiser replaces Jews who are his Chosen peole, His Adopted with nonhuman/spirits or angels>>>>>>>Polytheism. Have to remember the Jews were given the law and had Authority to judge and rule, not nonhuman/spirits or angels. Nonhuman/spirits or angels were never given the law. Jesus says John 10:34 “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods". The gods are the Jews, Jesus answers the question of the gods of Psalm 82. Even expanding with the verses following in John 10 Jesus the Son kept Linking Himself to God the Father of the OT (Psalm 82). 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, “I am God’s Son”? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.’ 39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp. The final thought NKJV Psalm 82: 1 "God stands in the congregation of the mighty; He judges among the gods." ESV God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: How God stands is by His word, that was given to Asaph and Spoken and Writen by God thru the Prophet Asaph in Psalm 82 for and to the Jews, as well as todays Bible readers. So this is figuratively, not literally. How the is fulfilled prophetically and literally with Jesus as the Word become Flesh standing amoungst the Jews as God the Son.