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Cooperatives being non-meta comes down to SOL not being important since you can just cheese migration from India or China. You are still wanting mass migrations late game its just achivable trough capitalism now, so you can just stay on LF if you want. Cornlaws is also meta beacuse you dont need to build anything really just export all your corn and its done. So building farms is still not meta. Aristocrats is only going to invest in manor houses anyway so less of them is just good. Its a video that is getting older and older but base points still stands. Just import all agriculture unless its late game plantations and build stuff that boosts capitalists and keep trade unions happy.

Thanks! I generally dont do scripts I just make it as I go haha

The update to allow either fish or meat into groceries was a good thing for livestock ranches. But most buildings in Vicky can be profitable. Mainly the buildings mentioned are bad because they have a very high opportunity cost. You are right that they can be profitable. Construction is extremely valuable in the early g ame and pops are in the late game. One needs to be very selective what to build. Cash crops for example are often very profitable and makes a lot of money but doesnt give you what you need to industrilize, change laws, destroy arable land, doesnt contribute to the investment pool or strengthen capitalist so its still ill-advised.

@@thetechnocrat6763 I had already industrialized pretty well at that point, this was more like mid game when I had more construction than I knew what to do with so I went laissez faire to let my massive investment pool build out even more industry while I used my government to focus on specific issues state by state to scale SOL.

Unfortunately it's not modern day, but it is fantasy haha

Will do!!

It's in the video description!

@@thetechnocrat6763 ow, thanks, btw which sheet? i see it different with you showing

I also like hearing your voice

Hi Smithy I say the N word a lot too 😅😅

@@JerryCanTheThird I myself am not happy with the mic quality and I Will spend some time looking into it. I am not really a great audio engineer

@@espesq it is a complicated game! Stick to it and keep playing <3

At some point, yes! A bit of capitalism first

@@thetechnocrat6763 true comrade first monarchism, aristocracy and nobles must be replaced with capitalism which would finally be replaced by communism

Glad you are returning! Not everything said will be relevant of course but the general heuristic and way of thinking about it will! I will of course try to cover the new update and DLC as well

It is often one of the reasons yes! Building farms deletes subsistence farms. If you are running a really prosperous, big nation these population booms can be an issue. This is a good issue to have though. Dont be afraid to deficit spend a bit, increase that construction sector, and build "cheep" buildings first like logging camps or mines. In your colonies you don't really care about aristocrats or unemployment so build stuff like plantations, especially opium, use that money to fuel the construction sector at home.

@@thetechnocrat6763 You are not the first to suggest this. I've seen disaster saves with a big population unemployment problem. I know it's a common mistake to not build enough. I tried deficit spending, but it didn't work at first. I failed several times because I went to hard, I couldn't stick the landing. I could not outpace the interest yet as a minor power. Until I let the private investment build increasing the economy until they were empty and I focused on becoming a major power by building military, then recognized and then on construction goods. I have the hang of it now, I can outpace the interest and other costs easily. 1 big populated state is now fully employed. The private investment built 17 bananas though... almost half the state agriculture potential...

Thank you so much, and you are welcome! Say hi to your brother from me and good luck with the economies!

I would agree on all counts. This is accurate and very perceptive!

You right bro I have 1k+ and I can confirm

True! Late game is a lot easier than early game as you have a lot more flexibility. Its hard not to succeed really so I tend to lean my focus towards the early game

Indeed! Either lower the price of the input goods or raise the price of what you want produced!

I admire the energy, Emperor!

Perhaps!

Hey I made you a trade guide!

Thank you so much. This is exactly what I was aiming at achieve, to reach out, so I take this as a huge compliment! <3

I think we should have a small recap🤣

It is a decent strategy! But as painful as it is you still want to move into steel-frame buildings as your construction PM as it is more efficient, but having so much logging and so large population that wants a job I always focus on building as much logging camps I can get away with.

P sure he's just saying not to do it in the early game so you have the opportunity to get out of shitty laws

I understand where the idea comes from but it did not really have the intended effect. Instead of specialized states the meta is now to look for "rainbow states" that have all of the natural resources locally and build your industry there. Game mechanically this makes it so that you have one state that is the bulk of your economy and you build the others just to have jobs. I find this a bit boring. Thematically I dislike it. This is supposed to be the time of resource extraction in colonies or outer territories and trough this new invention called railway ship them to the industry centers. The urals in Russia have massive coal and iron deposits but no industry. Sweden famous for its iron had all of the industry in the south, rather then next to their giant iron mine in the frigid far north.

Indeed, which I mentioned in the video. Ryon is a "convenience" building like power plants and railways, its purpose is not to make money but to decrease dependence on silk and dyes from colonies etc. So if you need it, construct it, but its a horrible waste of construction that could be used elsewhere if you do have access to silk. This is of course when construction actually matters in the early and mid game. When you have 3k construction in the late game you don't need to worry. Build what you want that provide a decent wage or otherwise help you in your goals.

Eh its alright, but I would be hard pressed to not find a better option. Its not construction efficient and even in the late game, the wood -> paper-> art chain is not wage efficient at all, its not actually even close. So if I somehow end up having a high pop but no resource state, I generelly just go for something that can use resources that can withstand the MAPI penalty. Depending on the phase of the game.

I would agree that Vick need some variety. Not necessarily randomness but the possibility of unhistoric turn of events. The return of Byzantium trough superpower interference, France try to restore Charlemagne borders, Russia modernizes quickly etc!

@@thetechnocrat6763 Not just that, Ethipia form and gets strong, some african nation get really strong, Japan reforms and get real colonial japan, some latin american or arabe nation be a SP,

It is indeed! I only mentioned it briefly but you are absolutely correct.

Don't know it was an update or somethin, but yesterday i saw that local give you 100 percent reduced debuff from county radicalism, dedicated police don't.

@@Putzgriloss unfortunately, the effective max lvl of Local Police force seems to be lvl 3, unlike Dedicated and Militarized police; this factor actually limits it to -60% radicals and not -100% radicals in practice.

I could indeed! Generally though the early game is going to be full of radicals and one might need to accept that unfortunately. Late game though you give everybody jobs, low taxation amd automation to keep wages high as well as universal sufferage and parlimentary republic will create huge amounts of loyalists which will reduce radicals and keep every interest group happy so you get their bonuses. Funny how not even a almost hour long video doesn't cover everything

@@thetechnocrat6763 Maybe a short video on how best to handle the early to mid game radicals. Thanks for your videos so far they are very helpful.

Tack så mycket!

An extremely good point! There are many cases in which this game has "exceptions" so I am mainly talking as a general heuristic here. Sawmills are not always the best building in the game, you always don't want universial suffarage and you don't always want to build sulphur but as general talking points, sure.

All good suggestions! Thank you

You are correct!

Haha yes! What gave it away? The spreadsheet or my terrible accent?

There is really no later tier of SoL after they start consuming art. With many other goods this is the case but art is only consumed by the highest strata. Not even some capitalist in the early game and mid game are wealthy enough to consume fine art.

@@thetechnocrat6763 yeah i know. I mean maybe consuming said art is a prerequisite. Sometimes pops must consume some things. For example at some level pops need two beverages. One is not enough. Unless there is an obsession like the french with wine perhaps, that overturns it. So not producing art although seemingly a fine idea might cause problems. The mechanics are very weird and it's a lot of money concerned, that gets withheld from the economy. Comparatively building a couple art academies is not that big of a deal...

@@fileleutheros2577 Well as art is kind of the final destination I think that is fine. Art is also completely interchangeable with Services as pop demands is concerned. Which means that not only is it a very small component in the economy it is also resources that can be better used elsewhere. Art academies are not pop efficient either so the wage they produce is low compared to much else. So overall it’s just better to import

That is a really neat idea! Specialization is definitely something that is historical and is not adressed properly. Paradox made a meager attempt with the introduction of "companies" but this did very little to distinguish you any other nation making the same clothes, furniture or explosives. Swedish steel, American cars or Danish meat could become famous. Maybe certain goods can get "famous" in the world so other countries are willing to pay a premium if you export it. Something like that and/or your suggestion would really add to the game.