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Nauti Seaman
Добавлен 5 июн 2012
KX250X Embarrassing Result
Time to hit the "Reset" button, get more seat time in and try another hare scramble. I'll be getting back in town mid March and will get some more riding in before the next race. The weather here in NC has been absolute crap lately so most riding areas have been shut down.
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KX250X Ready To Scramble
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Got the 2022 250X ready for my first hare scramble race in over 5 years. It's the VCORR at Brushy Mountain in Taylorsville, NC. Here's my mods to be race ready. Hope y'all like! Go check out Charles Lytle over at MXRevival! @mxrevival Also, If anyone needs help changing tires, check out Jay Clark's video at Dirt Bike TV @dirtbiketv1
SSR SR300S at Brown Mt.
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SSR SR300S Oil Change (Zongshen NC250/300)
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I put a 300 cylinder piston on my 250 and there alot of vibration on high revvs , does your bike do that also
the video was 3 years ago i wonder how is the bike now.
The owner still has it and loves it! Can't find any faults for a budget steed. Ticks all the boxes and reliability is top notch.
Great build, can you tell me about your tires size?? Stock??
What series are you running ?
I do the NCHSA series. Unfortunately I've only been able to do 2 races due to my work schedule and being gone for most races.
Trying to get up to Brown mountain this coming Saturday man see if you can make it
Shoot man I won't be getting back on land until Saturday. I want to try next week if you're available
Can we get a yosh sound clip???
Most definitely. Unfortunately y'all will have to wait since I'm away at work for the next 4 weeks.
sick video i wanna do this to my 23 kx250x 🔥
Thanks man! I'd say the first 2 things to do would be hand guards and the exhaust + ECU re-map. Pretty good platform otherwise. Let's see some pics when you're done!
Nice setup. Like the santa cruz hat too
Thanks! Just an old skate punk at heart.
i have these bikes they are pretty nice
Yes and surprisingly powerful!
Acerbis tank works good for you?
Hey there. Yes the tank works good but I will be switching back to the stock tank for normal rides and only use the oversize tank for races. The OS tank pushed the radiator shrouds out a lot. One of the KX's greatest attributes is its so slim and narrow in stock trim. I didn't go with the translucent Acerbis tank because I like the black look but you can't tell how much fuel you have without taking the cap off.
Man! The Kawasaki looks great! Comfortable looking shop shed as well. Sorry the race didn't go so well, but stay strong and keep up the good work!
Thanks for the positive vibes! The NCHSA starts back up next month so gonna try and get one in.
Try upshifting once in awhile other than that great riding and beautiful bike
Ha ha! She's a high strung 250f with a 215lb piece o meat mounting her. 2nd and 3rd are her happy place on most of these trails. She's not a lugger. This was before I did the Tokyo Mods ECU re- program and the current KX250s have all the power in the upper echelon of the revs. Now there's a little (just a teensy bit) more bottom available with the new "Woods" map. It's also more linear now. Thanks for watching!
Hilarious intro man I love it good to see you uploading again sorry to hear about the crash but if you don't go down every now and then you ain't Ridin in my opinion that KX sounds and looks good my friend hope the best for you and your family God bless
Thanks! It's because of you that got me motivated to posts vids again. Let's go ride Brushy or Brown soon!
@@nautiseaman9833 dude I'm so down I plan to hit it as hard as I can spring and summer
How did the race go? How did the bike do? I am looking to pick one up.
Hey there! Thanks for watching. The race did not go well. It was a complete mudder and there were some difficult sections that the mud made very unenjoyable. I smashed into a tree early in the race and after that I was dumping my bike all over the course. However, I freaking love this bike! The Yoshimura exhaust and Tokyo Mods ecu re-map made the power very linear. The stock black coupler was very lurchy down low and the white had too much of a "hit" for woods riding. In all, it's a great overall package for woods and track. For any real technical, hard enduro type of riding I'd get a 300 2-smoker.
OR NAUTI STYLES ONE OR THE OTHERJUST BOUGHT THE COUNTERPART TO THIS BIKE A TM-36 BRANDED A TRAIL MASTER IN GREEN AND I LOVE IT , YOUR VIDEO WAS VERY HELPFUL MINE WAS FULL OF CONTAMINATED OIL / WATER MADE IT A MILKY COLOR .
Thanks for the comment and glad it helps. Hopefully the water in the oil isn't a sign of something like a head gasket leak or pump seal.
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hate to ask this dumb question but...... I have an EGL A17 450 with very similar engine. I have the same two screen filters under the black bolts on the sides of the engine and the bigger one also, just like what you have. There is also what appears to be the main drain plug at the bottom of the bike. Is this correct? If I only remove the three on the sides of the bike, I can see that all the oil comes out. Did you remove the very bottom (on the underside of the engine case)? or did you simple remove the three and clean and refill? Thanks
Yes, I warmed up the engine first then removed the bottom plug and removed the oil fill cap to vent. Once it was empty I started filming.
@@nautiseaman9833 I just watched the video again and saw that you pointed out the main drain plug at the beginning of the vid. Thanks for the quick response!!! I have an EGL A17 450, very similar to the SSR I think, but not too much out there on this bike. Its very good bike in my opinion so far. I also ride a KTM200 2 stroke and this bike rips very similar. Hope you are enjoying your bike. Keep the rubber side down!
Ty changed the oil on my k6r was a bit tired and wasn't paying the best of attention when I pulled the main filter out lol. I got it all worked out though thanks to the video since its the 250cc variant of this motor
Any idea on what's the valve clearances ?
Factory spec are .004" - .006" or .10mm - .16mm for both intake and exhaust.
Thanks for this video, I just changed mine in my Kayo K6R, identical engine less the big bore.
I just picked up the K6 250 EFI model. Hows your motor feel? First real ride today after setting up everything, has massive low rpm power off idle but doesnt seem to have much mid to upper rpm, and sounds lean with pops/backfire occasionally. Your's pull hard mid to upper rpm?? I assumed this DOHC would, i think i got a clogged injector or fuel filter from the old test gas
My question is the forks...what is available for seals and fork service? Springs too?
They are similar to Showa found on the 2017 generation Honda CRFs. For springs you would have to measure diameter and length then refer to guys at Racetech for a matching size with the spring rate you desire. Seals you'd have to pop them out and measure the old ones. Unfortunately, there isn't much documentation regarding wear parts. When you find the correct sizes and any other findings, pay them in here. I'm compiling a list of things that will hopefully help others in the future.
@@nautiseaman9833 I ended up going with Kayo K6 efi cuz Im not great with carbs, lights, and got to see/ride one before buying. Fast Ace forks...think thats even worse to work on. Gonna change the rear spring and see if I can live with the front. So far it aint bad, even me being 210lbs
What is the oil capacity I put one full quart in and almost a half quart but having a hard time seeing it in the sight glass
The total oil capacity is 1.7 quarts but during an oil change it's hard to get every single last drop out so it's more like just a gnat's ass over 1.5 quarts.
What was the oil capacity
Oil capacity is 1.7 qts fully drained
30
How much oil capacity you went for?
Those are the same filters my Ktm Xcf-w 350 takes. Mine only has one of the black filters. Then one bigger main filter.
Great video, Do you have a link to a website to get oem/performance parts for ssr bikes?
As far as performance parts go, SSR has a Pro Circuit pipe they offer though dealerships and MXRevival has the Lectron carb. For "OEM" engine and some other parts, go through SSR dealer or search eBay and Amazon for Zongshen nc250 or 300. Plenty of parts for maintenance and rebuilds when needed. GPX Moto also uses the NC250/300 so you can get engine wear items through them as well. Chassis and body are completely different though. Best thing to do is hop on Thumpertalk and go to the Chinese bike category. There you'll find everything related to the NC engine and the SR series bikes.
@@nautiseaman9833 Your a life saver boss. That info is much appreciated!
Man! That bike look’s familiar!
Hmm. I wonder who it belongs to
Where did you find graphics?
RMATVMC semi custom graphics for 2017 CRF250R. You'll need to get the CRF radiator shrouds as well. The SSR shrouds are larger.
So what’s your thoughts on the bike so far do you think it’s going to be reliable and have you had any carb problems and do you think you would buy it again
Unfortunately the bike is a friend's and I have to give it back next weekend. That being said I like the bike. With a few mods it's a very capable trail & woods weapon. I put a set of Tusk handguards and a set of Tusk Recon hybrid gummy tires on the stock rims (21 front & 19 rear) for single track duty. The new tires made a huge difference in traction on rocky rooty stuff. I bumped the jetting up to 42 pilot and 172 main and that cleaned up the lean bog on the bottom and vastly improved roll on throttle response from down low. I changed out the thick stock fork oil to Mercon/Dextron 3 ATF (5wt equivalent) and that gave the forks improved action and plushness. I also added an FMF/UFO Plast single exhaust side panel on the left to slim down unnecessary bulk since this is a CRF250R copy that Honda uses dual exhaust on. A Pro Circuit slip on exhaust with spark arrestor (if needed in some areas) available from SSR directly so it'd be interesting to see if there's any performance gains over stock can. There's also a write up in the latest Dirt Bike Magazine about this bike as well so they're getting some recognition. Overall, for under $5k this is a helluva bike and a steal!
As far as reliability people swear about the durability if these NC250/300 motors. Parts are available on eBay, Amazon, SSR, GPX Moto, etc... If you're used to doing your own bike repairs and maintenance you can rebuild the entire engine for way less than an Austrian or Japanese top end alone. Valve and cam chain adjustments are super easy. Plastics are 2017 era CRF250R.
How would you compare the power to something like a kdx we had 2 kdx’s and a ttr125 for my younger son he put grew the ttr so I sold it and just 2 days ago my old sons kdx220 got stolen out of the front yard so we’re on the hunt for to bikes I’m thinking about a ssr450 😉 but might just get 2 300’s
@@justinlloyd9342 The SR300 power is very linear much like a KDX without the 2 stroke hit. I know the KDX hit is nothing like an MX 2 stroke but the SSR is very luggable. It gets traction everywhere. The power curve is almost electric like and likes the mid range of the band. It doesn't rev up very quick but that's what I like. It won't get you into trouble - very forgiving. The power is more like an XR250R vs a modern, high strung, fuel injected 250f. For less than the price of one KTM 450sxf you get 2 bikes that normal people can ride.
@@nautiseaman9833 Where did you get info on how to service the forks and how much oil did you use in each leg? I'm a smaller guy and softening up the forks would be nice.
I have two SSR 200cc Enduros, both 2009 models. One has 9,000 miles. Have owned Pitster 230SC also, a half dozen Asian dirt bikes. Anyone know anything about the EGL brand? They have a 450cc with the Zongshen NC450 engine. No info anywhere on the EGL....
Synthetic oil makes the clutch slip, if anyone was wondering
Oil change procedure for Chinese dirt bike: " remove oil drain plug, push a real dirt bike over drain plug, install drain plug"! Live happily ever after!
Damn, that would be the easiest way to no problems wouldn’t it.
there is 1 filter in the right the other 2 are drain bolts
Drain is on the bottom
love the graphics. what bike did you specify when ordering these?
2016 CRF250R Attack Graphics from RMATVMC. Just make sure to get the 2014-2016 radiator shrouds as well. The graphics won't fit the SSR shrouds. However, I bet you can order the shroud graphics for 2017-2019 separately and get the rest for the 14-16.
Nice video, helpful. Thanks! You mentioned you found the service manual, where did you find it? Also, noticed the rear suspension linkages are exposed, the skid plate doesn't reach that far back, and I could probably use one from a Japanese similar frame. Would you know if this frame is same or similar to an old CRF250 ?
It's not a service manual per se but an owner's manual that covers general bike operation and light maintenance. A PDF is available on SSR's website as well as a PDF for oil changes. However, the oil change is on a different bike with a different main oil filter and cover but is still a zongshen NC250 engine. Most servicing is done by trial and error and folks like us sharing the experience. I'm going to do a fork service vid shawtly as well as post some single track riding I've done. Regarding a skid plate, i have an older crf250r to compare and the SSR frame is a lot larger due to the size of the zongshen engine. The bottom end is larger than a crf450r's so the bottom cradle is lower and longer as well as the down tube. Looks like the only real solution right now is to fab one from aluminum or buy a sheet of HDPE and make a cardboard template then heat and bend it to the frame.
@@nautiseaman9833 Good idea, thanks! Yeah, I'll be interested to learn how to change the fork oil as well.
Dave, join my fb page called ssr 250s/300s/450s owners group. Good buncha guys and alot of info there.
Always good to actually check torque specs, those 8mm bolts , I doubt are 15 ftlbs, more like 5 ft lbs
Yes indeed. If i actually had an SSR shop manual to refer to I would have. In hindsight, i should've referred to some of the other shop manuals i had on the shelves for similar bolts. I have a couple Honda CRF manuals that list torque values for oil filter/drain bolts at 12-16 ft lbs and the 6mm flange bolts (8mm heads) at 9 ft lbs.
Yes indeed. If i actually had an SSR shop manual to refer to I would have. In hindsight, i should've referred to some of the other shop manuals i had on the shelves for similar bolts. I have a couple Honda CRF manuals that list torque values for oil filter/drain bolts at 12-16 ft lbs and the 6mm flange bolts (8mm heads) at 9 ft lbs
What year shrouds for the CR did you buy to fit for graphics
I used the '14-'17 crf250r ('13-'16 450r) radiator shrouds from Acerbis and it seems like SSR has the '18+. The rest of the bike is '14-'17 plug and play plastics but since the SR300S was originally designed for dual exhausts i also used the FMF/UFO Plast single exhaust left side panel. UFO Plast also sells the side panels together for single exhaust conversion. www.ebay.com/itm/333787169645
What about the 450 SSR?
@@shakalecofield5 Honestly can't say but it doesn't look like any current or previous CRF. If I had to guess the SSR450s looks similar to the current gen Suzuki RMZ450.
Good job! Regarding the bog... Here's some info the culprit on the 2020, & what's coming for 2021 (carb specific): ruclips.net/video/zOUkrH4JonU/видео.html (about 3 minutes in) And here's a cure we came up with specifically for this cool & affordable machine: ruclips.net/video/PFKjn6fyG9E/видео.html // www.mxrevival.com/ssr-motorsports-sr300-modifications Keep the videos coming 👌 -Charles // mXrevival
Thanks Charles! I've been following what you've been posting on these bikes. I think there are a lot of nice things about this bike and glad my friend let me use it for a bit. This is a very capable bike in gnarly singletrack with just a few mods. The moto community needs bikes like these for the weekend warrior who doesn't want or need to drop $10k+. SSR is doing a great job and thank you for giving us great content. I'll be keeping my eye open for the '21 model.
@@nautiseaman9833 oh wow, thank you. I agree brother, it's a special little machine! Thinking about buying one? Thanks for the kind words 🙏 Happy Thanksgiving!
Thanks for the vid man. I just bought one two weeks ago. I am a complete nube so this really helps. As you stated there is very little online about these bikes.
My pleasure. I just wish i had a little more video prowess and editing skills. Like i said in the video, just doing my part to help out the community. I plan on doing a video/review once i get back home in a couple weeks and actually ride it.
i got a DB10 i don't think it makes much of a differents
Awesome video! I am planning on buying one of these for my son. Where did you order this little DB20 from?
I picked it up from Killer Motorsports but looks like they're out of stock. Any Google search for it will bring up sellers. I think Family Powersports has them for $625 shipped.
How old is your little one...my daughter is 4...wonder if this bike still to bug for her
My son was 7 at the time. The bike is a tad on the heavy side (about 125lb) if you don't use training wheels and the stock rear shock is waaayyyy over sprung. I picked up a Fastace 260mm adjustable shock with the 250lb spring off Amazon for $80 and it made all the difference. The rear didn't kick on small bumps and had great damping and adjustable rebound. The 110cc engine has plenty of torque and pep. It'll get going quick. It does have an adjustable throttle stop for beginners. For $500 shipped it's a steal.
how has this bike held up? the db20
The bike had held up perfectly and has about 15 hrs on it now. Starts up immediately and runs crisp and strong. Plastics are still new looking even after multiple tip overs. Added Acerbis minicross hand guards and will replace stock tires with a little more aggressive knobs. Overall, very satisfied with the bike especially at just under $600 shipped. The biggest improvement was the addition of the Fast Ace shock with rebound adjustment. Stock shock and spring (1000lb spring rate!) were garbage.
@@nautiseaman9833 Can you post the link of the new shocks you installed on the DB20? Thanks
@@robertoalvarez5281 www.ebay.com/itm/401926340537 The shock i put on was the same Fastace 275mm (10.8") as this but has a 250lb spring. There is also a guy on ebay (Pacificavecycles i believe) that sells 500lb and 600lb springs for this shock, around $13. I'd get the 500lb. The price of the shock has also gone up and availability has diminished due to the pandemic. DNM has a shock on Amazon with an 850lb spring for around $115. Hope this helps.
@@nautiseaman9833 Thank you so much. I greatly appreciate you taking the time. :)