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This is a friendly spar, not a tournament bout

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Yeah, it is broad

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Fast indeed! :)

Don't know if it is the same version, but we handled a pair just a few days ago that were much more stiff than the ones we have. Didn't try them in sparring, so we'll wait for your thoughts!

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Glad it was useful!

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1. Thicker and more resistant leather and/or padding 2. We have nevr tried anything by Purpleheart 3. Decent or synthetic simulacrums but some hits could be painful. Not advised for steel. For the last year we're been using the SupFen master gloves as general gloves for synthetic simulacrums and they've been working fine.

Yes, sword and rotella is often a underestimated combo

Enrico's should be Fait d'armes, don't know about Luca's

Not in sparring

@@saamfvg what's the point of sparring then?

@@raystargazer7468 work on movements, actions, techniques or just have fun with an "exchange of opinions", like in this specific video where the two fencers were sparring for the first time with each other. If we were to kill each other we'd all be in jail for manslaughter ;)

@@saamfvg i mean to fight like if you wanted to kill the orher guy. Put some rubber or something on the blades and swing it to the other as if you wanted to murder him. With good armor and practice I think it is doable with minor injuries. Like, I understand why do it for fun, but if you want to recreate fighting, the most accurate is if it is swung the way it's meant to be. I wouldn't ask this with Jians for ex. while wearing a robe, where you might actually disembowel the other.. but with armor. You can serious.

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On Superior Fencing's website

Glad it was useful!

Quelli usati in questo video dovrebbero essere 140/145cm, il modello standard è una ventina di cm più lungo

@@saamfvg a ok

@@saamfvg ho un'altra domanda è vero che gli spadoni rinascimentali erano grandi quanto il loro utilizzatore?

Non proprio, erano un po' più corti di quanto una persona fosse alta. Se hai occasione di visitare musei come lo Stibbert di Firenze o le torri di San Marino puoi vederne alcuni esemplari dal vivo.

@@saamfvg a ok

È un ragazzo nuovo, giovane e molto promettente!😂

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They are very versatile!

For synthetic or steel sowrd? For synth we're currently pretty satisfied with the SupFen master gloves, while for steel Thokk's turned out to be more protective than these, although just as bulky and more expensive.

As far as we know, no, there is system or manual for storta. Messer would be the closest to it and maybe you can adapt something from more recent cutlass manuals.

@@saamfvg Funny enough, out of curiosity, I was just browsing the Del Tin offer of swords. They are selling something listed as "Storta or Dussack". So they see it as being the same, and I can see why. But it's true that in HEMA, if we say dussack, we think Meyer. And you are probably right that (leaving Meyer's system to the side) all these shorter swords and hangers would have been used in the same simple way, just like a messer.

It was indeed, even if we had to limit chatter and banter for the sake of the video XD

Thanks!

Thanks!

btw, thanks, we know, we're just farming for engagement 😂

@@saamfvg beautiful hahaha

Truth be told, it's not really easy to manouvre the spear and especially other pole weapons with bigger blades like the partisan. They can be unbalanced towards the blade and they're usually somewhat awkward to use. We tried the Blackfencer partisan blades on stiffer pole to be more historically correct, but they were too heavy and cumbersome for Martina to use.

Hi, i'm the guy with the dagger, yes i have more experience than her but still it was not easy: i had to think of a strategy beforehand and when i got really tired at around half of the video it was game over for me. Now i'm wondering if the same strategy works with someone taller, more aggressive and experienced.

​@@saamfvg ussually the Spears have short blade or even no longer of 30 cm and this ia not a partisan obvious that with the partisan the fencer should be more trained, and yes Spears has no egual in the right hands, i didn't see the girl stepping aside orntaking distante in the moment that the opponent wants to get closer, as i didn't see her making multiple attacks and changing the attack zone....

@@biobomb93 I come from a koryu back ground, primarily pole arms, but some sword - control/work past the point and be aggressive once you enter like that is about the only strategy I've ever been taught. It gets more difficult the more experienced the spear, even with another pole arm. if she'd been more experienced she'd possibly have ran you around the court. I'd normally attack the lead hand first, but that's because it's closest and was traditionally a lightly armored/easily disabled target. Some food for thought for the spear user (again from a koryu perspective - which may or may not be applicable to your studies) - a cap/padding on the butt end can improve the balance a touch and be used for attack/defense, especially with a shorter weapon like that (step back left and bring it around for a head strike, for example). We generally let the spear pass through the front hand - there were a few times in there she took a step or two when it looked to me she was already in range for a solid hit if the spear had moved through the front hand. It also lets you use the hips as the main driver and not the rear shoulder. Is there something in the sources that recommends a static hand position on a spear? It seems common in HEMA spear clips I see, and is something we rarely do so, especially when staying in our range.

@@vasilemihaicuceu7809 This was literally her fourth time using any pole weapon ;) We currently don't own any spear tips, only a couple Blackfencer's partisans, so the choice was between those and the tennis-ball-and-tape-makeshift-thing that we ended up using.

I guess you meant "she can't use the spear" and you would be correct, it is quite obvious. In fact, that was her fourth time using it 😉

@@saamfvg its not always evident unless youve even watched the spears use by someone who knows how to use it competantly or skillfully for me that was initially.. martial arts movies(yes really) not that wushu is actual combat but it showcases the range of techniques and the use of sliding the spear in the hands for different contexts (true fact its how i first got the ideas when using spear in sparring albeit refined with more common sense footwork and such)

Eventually we'd like to do more

This kind of video takes a long time to make, we have a couple in the works but we don't know of and when we'll be able to make them...

Hand sniping is a core of the Bolognese school we study, so...

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Those of us who use Thokk gloves said that the SupFen are less protective, not too much, but enough to be noticed at the first use. We don't study saber so we can't comment on that, but we've heard from more than one person that they are satisfied by the SupFen, which is good to know. Again, as already stated in the video, it's not like they don't ptoect at all, but they have significant flaws that could lead to injuries, especially when using steel blades. Talking about injuries, you say that you "never got any big injury", does it mean you actually got injuried using them?

@@saamfvg some hits did sting a little, if hitting some of the weakest spots indeed. Same with Thokks really, but you might be right in saying that Thokks can be slightly better at protection some parts. I can get on with that but it's not a huge difference No gloves on the market can protect you 100% from injury. What i like about these and Thokks is that the protection is "good enough", "nearly all the time" while preserving agility. I can't use a 1H sword without that agility. I can use my longsword with big bulky clamshell gloves like spes heavies, but i cannot do that with a saber or broadsword for exemple. At this time, i don't think it is possible to create gloves that will protect you 100% without impairing your ability to handly your weapon correctly (wrist movements for exemple..., and freedom to position your fingers correctly on the blade). For many years, everybody used Red Dragons because there was nothing better. Nowadays, we have much better options like Thokks and Supfen impact gloves. I think it will be many years before we get something better.

Yes, unfortunately it does seem we are still quite some time away from THE gloves...

If you do end up getting them, let us know your thoughts once you've had the chance to use them

SPES HEAVIES are entirely different type of gloves. Can't use a saber decently with SH for exemple. So yeah, you have to trade some protection for agility. There is no way around that. ATM , with all these flaws, SupFen gloves and Thokks are still the best gloves on the market for some weapons in my opinion. I would gladly buy something better, but from what i have seen, there is nothing better

Ive yet to see the addon in real life... I''m curious but a bit skeptical about it. It ressembles the old hand of glory gloves that was sold years ago and is still on the website. If i remember well, it wasnt that great.

Rapier seems to be what they are most suited for

Thanks, we will!

All the synthetic simulacrums we use are from Blackfencer. Us being used to sideswords, yes, it does feel a bit odd to fence with shorter weapons, but you get used to it rather quickly.

Hi, we're working on the second part, but long story short they're... lacking. They are almost good for synthetics, but not protective enough for steel.

Neither of them is trained in rapier, so yeah, they do use it like what they're more used to.