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@BigGreenKing5582 You're right. I had only seen that clip once. I can see the engravings. Thanks again for your help on this one!

@TheJonOrtiz Yeah, I noticed that too when it debuted on Roger's corner. It wasn't that way by the end of it. You can see Hogan with it at 2:04 and they have been filled in.

That’s not correct. When it debuted it did have the names on the side plates as Backlund says in this video. Hard to see but they are engraved on it. ruclips.net/video/eQGAnF2YUbA/видео.htmlsi=WLkWVcFJfen91HcI

@@Tupacisking306 I ordered those two belts from Arosha after making this video. I didn't own any Arosha belts at the time of filming this. It's unbiased because I used the book "Big Gold" as my reference. I simply used the photos within the book to point out what is inaccurate about either of the two belts. The only opinion I gave was that I wouldn't spend $4000 on the C4 because I didn't think it was worth that much for all the inaccuracies it has. The rest of what I said was purely factual, again going off of the book.

fantastic looking belt btw. I ordered one a month ago from a maker and am waiting on it now. This exact one.

@@BishopM1 feel free to share these specs with him. I share my videos on belt pages. Makers see the link and choose to watch it or not.

@@Mr.Cynical92thanks for pointing these details out man.

@@Mr.Cynical92do we know how many different winged eagles were used in total? And the WM14 one with 2x9 and 2x6 straps is for sure the same one that debuted on October 6th ‘97 RAW-Montreal?

@BishopM1 Last question first, yes according to HazardF5 and based on photos, the last version debuted on RAW on October 6th, 1997 in Kansas City. I have no clue how many Winged Eagles in total, my best guess is 14 different belts. There's also apparently a yellow version that never made it to TV because they made Warrior drop the belt before they could use it. Winged Eagle variants: Wrestlemania 14 Wrestlemania 12/13 Chipped Eagle Baby blue White V1 White V2 Lavender Black Warrior V2 Black warrior V2 Survivor Series 91 Wrestlemania 6 version Wrestlemania 5 version Macho man velcro version Wrestlemania 4

@@Mr.Cynical92 thanks. I’ve been looking for his history of WWF championship belts and other hours long videos. Were they deleted?

@BishopM1 The three best in terms of quality to me are in order: 1. ORM, best leather in Pakistan 2. Classic Shields 3rd is a three way tie from Arosha, Nawaz and Pinfall. The upgraded leather on my two Arosha belts are as good as Ali Anas. I do have a belt on order from Pinfall, but from everything I've seen, it looks like very good stuff. I've never owned a Nawaz belt, but I liked what I've seen. I'd avoid the hassle with Altair. Ali Anas makes good stuff, but you'll be pulling your hair out trying to get him to ship your belt.

@@Mr.Cynical92thank you so much man. Not trying to bother you, I just love your vids and trust your judgment. The gap between Ali Amas’s quality and the others you named isn’t light years apart is it? I’m about to purchase the belt in this video because I absolutely love it. My holy grail. Just wanna make sure the overall quality of the belt is comparable to the top dogs in the industry. I think the belt in this vid is a 9/10. I haven’t seen any at all that are just extraordinarily better. Sorry if I’m complicating things, I’ve just never paid anything over WWE Shop prices and when I do I want to make sure I’m making the right purchases, strictly based on overall belt quality. Unless you can video link to me a better Screwjob cut Winged Eagle to purchase? Hope I’m not bothering you man.

@BishopM1 No, not exactly lightyears apart. He makes nice belts when he wants to. When he's focused on making an awesome belt, he can deliver one. I'm completely happy with my WCW 91-94. This Winged Eagle is a little bit underwhelming to me. My ORM one blows it out of the water. Especially since mine from Ali came in looking the way it did. I had to polish it with a gold polishing cloth and sprayway glass cleaner to get it how it looks in the video. Ali offered to send me a new belt. I declined because we were getting close to that fan fest and I didn't want to hope the replacement belt came in on time. I'm done ordering from him, he can go be inconsistent to someone else. I hope your experience goes better than mine and my friend's did on the other Ali Anas Winged Eagle on my channel.

@@Mr.Cynical92​​⁠​⁠thanks so much man. I really appreciate your advice. I’m sharing your channel with all my belt collector buddies. Your channel should have way more subscribers. Keep up the good work. One last question lol. Any major key differences between your ORM and Ali’s belts? Other than the buffer marks and having to shine it up?? And of course his customer service. And I don’t want the duel plated at all, I exclusively want what you appropriately dubbed the Screwjob cut lol.

@BishopM1 The current ORM leather is miles ahead of anything I've seen from Ali. Also his middle man, Vince, is pretty cool. The quality is better in my opinion. All those really deep swirls, aren't on my ORM belt. They are a lot less noticeable under the light. Thank you for sharing the channel. I'm hoping to cross that 1000 subscriber threshold this year.

@@foxhound9781 Classic Shields and Arosha Crumrines are comparable to one another. It just comes down to how much you want to spend and how long you want to wait for your belt.

@@sheeeeesh3628 These plates got me feeling like a Megastar. 🤣

@@cottyhearn590 I didn't include it because it was never used in the WWF, only in the movie.

@StoneColdSteve-Stocks After a few bourbons, I'd probably end up sounding like Thunderbolt Patterson 🤣. "OLE, IF YOU MOVE!!!" ruclips.net/video/7Nm-2dLsIMk/видео.htmlsi=OACjSAHgmjdS4I4E

@Nightrain76 That depends on 2 factors: budget and wait time. I think ORM makes the best one all around. The price for an HD one like mine is $1650 and the wait time is 6-8 months. If you're wanting standard definition, FCLUBVK is a good maker. That'll be roughly $325 shipped. He usually has those belts in stock. Just remember, he charges an extra $50 for a belt tip. Arosha and Pinfall are also good options. Arosha is going to be probably a 4-5 month wait time and probably about $600 for HD. Pinfall is partnered with Antonio Mendoza. They have a package deal where you can get HD plates on Mendoza's leather for about $750. Pinfall/Mendoza will probably be around a 4 month wait time if I'm remembering correctly. All of those makers that I mentioned are very reputable in my opinion. It just comes down to the budget and the wait time that you're ok with.

@ wow thanks for taking the time for that detailed response. Inreally appreciate it. I only have a Shoprine for now…..

@@brad24231 Which one? There's 6 different versions I covered in this video.

@@AhmedHassan-ze2ub I've noticed no issues with the leather, so I'd say it does.

@@CA49CS Thank you!

@TheNathanMan-n7n Well there are no periods that separate the letters on their Instagram, Facebook or on their leather stamp on their belts. Plus everyone in the hobby calls them ORM. I have two belts from ORM. One just says ORM and the other say Orm Leather.

@Mr.Cynical92 thank you for informing me I wasn't aware of that

@atseab if you have pictures of that, I'd love to see them and make a correction video. Kind of like what I did with the Red Logo Intercontinental.