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Elekit 8200 really is an incredible gadget. I even didn't have the Lundahl transformers. Though I upgraded it with other parts which Hificollective has like a package on their website. And of course if you add some good nos 6l6g (like Fivre, Rca or National Union), the sound is gorgeous. Yamamoto is very clear, precise, more mature, more high endish... But, for the full range drivers, I believe it need s a good fuller sounding (active) preamp. It lacks bass a little, so I find more overall pleasing sound with Elekit, but of course in this situation with Coral open baffles. But this is just because of fuller sound, more bottom extended. Elekit didn't have such a clarity and space etc., but there are + in - everytime. Yamamoto is better, but it has to be perfectly implemented to show it's great potencial. Those 2W feel a lot more, but still are challenging.

Oke. I think the Elekit go good on my Audio Note AN/E. 98db​@@gasperhabjanic2115

@@martinlens7592 I know Troels Gravessen measured AN speakers and they are more like 92db by average or something, it depends which impedance they measure. Still, Elekit would be ok, but put it on pentode mode, it's more grippy. I used triode first, then UL, but ended in pentode mode.

@gasperhabjanic2115 Nice to hear. The Audio Note AN/E. Are a HE version

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Hey. Yes, I've had 5 pairs of Zu, incl. Druiv IV and V, Omen 1 and 2, the last were Soul Supreme. The Cubes have more oomph, don't know if they go lower, but they are more full, they can shake the room. They also can go very high, but they are not so "hot" on top, which is ok, but I was thinking what would a supertweeter bring, like AMT for example, maybe it would relieve some high preasure to the main driver, because it can be a little shouty. But, if you have all perfectly done starting from the source (power), then they are not gonna be shouty :) I'm still looking sometimes at Zu Soul VI, but probably the Cubes are better. My friend has a Nenuphar and it's rocking...

thanks for your comment. It was quite high when recording, probably my Iphone's guilt (no special mic used), but if you use headphones it's just ok...

What's the main differences in sound with puritan?

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Hey. This dac was built with Abbas Audio modules (2 of them), because I don't know if any stock non-os pcm63 exist... I'm not using it anymore, so if you want it, I can send you some pictures etc. Abbas uses great materials, some nos aswell, allen bradley etc. I have a Lampizator now, but it's not night and day, actualy it's hard to value this pcm63, could easily say it's worth 5k, because there's no comparison. It's all about musicality, big sound, not so much about the details and the nuances, not typical highend sound, but probably you know what I'm talking about.. :)

@@gasperhabjanic2115 i think my comment is being removed b/c i can't add my email but it's cesaracastro at yah00 please show me photos

@@gasperhabjanic2115 my comment keeps getting removed. Wont allow me to add email. But, i do want photos and am interested in it!

Thanks man for this kind words which are of course true. It took quite some time and I'm stil not there, but this is the start of the first real enjoyment in listening and not just skipping the tracks.. Cheers

Yes, they are very (!) good speakers.. but.. there is always a "but" :) My experience is that they need a big(er) room or in other words you need to listen to them from longer distance then other speakers. I listen to them from not more then 3m and it was not enough, because the drivers are quite high and I had a feeling that the sound is above me so I was raising the head all the time. But, beside that, they are super fast, agile, tight, more then Soul Supreme which I have now, more high-endish I would say.

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Many would say it's superior, it's more linear, more complete, on the paper it's perfect speaker. I tried it with single ended tubes, A class Sugden and this Unison hybrid. I think they need some more power, though they are quite sensitive speakers. BUT, I prefer Heresy :) They are more fun, more open, live, pure, easier to drive with tubes (if this is your choice of amplfication). But don't look on the paper. But, this is of course me. I like full range, horns, hih sensitivity etc., I don't like conventional speakers. Most of them are boring..

Really? I have Mundorfs aswell, but not the Lundahl upgrade.. Is it worth it what do you think? Meanwhile I tried many NOS 6L6 tubes and I must say the NOS stuff is really extra magic. Try to get 6L6G with ST glass and grey coat and pair this with RCA clear tops 5814, this combination is the best... With other 6L6s the RCA clear tops are not the most winning combo, so I find RCA black plate triple mica much better, but with 6L6G (I have Fivre and National Union) it's the best.

@@gasperhabjanic2115 installing the Lundhal opt will refine the sound. I have been using 8600 as my main amp for a while now. 8200 is my desktop amp and I am looking for a small near field speaker for it. So I have stopped investing time and money on the tube for the 8200. Does your zu speaker have Claritycap ?

@@coolpkduck I built a 8600 aswell, but it's at my friend's for a long time so I didn't compare it well. Meanwhile I built a Yamamoto a08s (45 tube) and I think it's better in some ways then 300B, but it has only 2 watts obviously. I don't have ZUs anymore though I'm sure I'll buy DW6 some day. I owned 4 pairs (Omen 1, Druid IV, Omen DW, Druiv V). Yes, the DW had a Clarity Cap MR, I upgrade it by myself.

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I didn't have so much trouble with boomy bass. These are rock-granite plates and I think it helped a little bit. I had them quite opened, you see there is about 3cm gap between the plates and the speakers. The bass was more opened and more "free" and sometimes a little bit boomy (at some frequencies), but if I closed the gap to just 1cm or less, the bass was more tight, and there was less of it. So it depends what you like and how much impact it has in the room they are placed.

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Hey. I like 8200R a lot! I doubt there's anything that can compare with it in this price range. I upgrade it with Takman resistors and Mundorf coupling caps and I bought quite some NOS 6l6 tubes, RCA black plate, Fivre 6l6g etc, Rca 807 and ecc82s aswell... Soon I'll upgrade the output trafos with Lundhals too. It's really a great amp. It doesn't have a special caracter, maybe it lacks some romantics.. Of course you should have some 93db+ speakers. I owned Druid V and it was great, now I have a Klipsch Heresy 3 and it's even better :) Regarding TU-8600R, I built it and it's a great amp aswell. I have a model with Lundhals trafos. It's more slow and romantic amp, it's hard actually to compare it with 8200R, because the tubes are totally different. Sure contact me: ghabjanic at gmail dot com

@@gasperhabjanic2115 Just sent you an email ;) Would also great if you could make video where you compare TU8200 and TU8600/TU8900

Hey. Actually they didn't come in black. I give those parts to a company who makes anodizations. It came out awesome. I still have them. I bought a Zu Druid V after that, but they need a bigger room, so I sold them (Druids). Omens are not so sensible to room positioning and they sound very good whatever the amplifier is. If you want I can sell them, because I'm buiding some Troels's speakers and I need space. Contact me ghabjanic@gmail.com

@@gasperhabjanic2115 Thanks for the offer. if i decide to go Zu I need to get the Black Ghost finish WAF.. Plus i like the 60 days return policy, what do i have to lose.. Again looking for something lively, high sensitivity, dynamic, good with Rock at an affordable price. Not a big fan of horns except for the Heritage line like the Forte's but they hit above my price point.

It's just black anodized finish - you can special order it from them. Easy peasy. I almost did it with mine but it does add quite a bit of lead time to getting your speakers. The upper tier finishes and special order add time as they finish the plain vanilla orders first in batches.

I don't know exactly whan you mean. The sound of Amy is by default not the most polite, and the Zus do not add any of silkyness etc. They are very pure. Maybe the dac (AD1865) is a little bit "edgy" comparing to TDA1541 or PCM63. Keep also in mind that I recorded with Iphone 6's camera/mic and that we are on youtube.

Elekit is very neutral, airy, fresh, I like it.. but it lacks some of that flow and drive. Luxman has that drive, but I find it somehow a little bit "foggy" and "boring" with ZU, which are very revealing speakers. After Luxman, I find one great amp, from both worlds, it's Pathos Inpol Remix mk1 (10W A class hybrid). Very, very good amp. Great timber, drive, maybe not so resolutive and holographic then full tube (Elekit), but stil top..

Gasper Habjanic Totally agree with you, anything in between the sound characteristics of the two would be the best.

hh tnx, how did you find me? :)