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As noted in the video this was my worst fight but it made for a good video. It's not a game I would be playing again, unless I test the campaign to show it off eventually. As its not my thing as noted in the video, but thanks for the feedback just sorry I feel like you kinda wasted your time :(

It's Unreal 5.1, which some people suggest is janky regardless of who develops with it but I have limited experience of games using it.

No worries :)

Glad it was helpful!

No, all the paid DLC is for cosmetics. You could argue some of the skins give an advantage as they can be harder to see. But they adjust ones that the community thinks are too strong.

@Bandanner Oh ok, that's good. I thought it would be like an old game I played where dlcs have perks and abilities that is locked behind a pay wall. I'm willing to try out this game then

Even sent them a link to the video, with my colourful language ;)

There has not been any access to the editor and there are no bots in the skirmish sense, all the computer stuff is scripted. The current beta has multiplayer coop scenarios you can host which are scripted missions against the "bots". The tower defence one can be played solo if you close the other player slots.

No idea I am afraid, all you could do is try it.

@@Bandanner Alright thanks for replying tho

I need to take another look as I don't remember if I ever played that one. :) Sounds good though.

That's actually not a bad suggestion at all. Especially if you are in a team so someone covers your back!

Glad its not just me having the issue with clicking. So initially it was supposed to ban you from playing another game till that one ends and forces you to reconnect but that does not always seem to happen currently. I would go for a stiffer punishment like a 3 hour block initially, and repeat offenders increase it. But I accept not everyone would be up for that.

Oh some people are certainly having issues, though certainly not all the time :)

I hear very similar feelings from others too, so you aren't alone.

@@Bandanner i just hope they acknowledge it and fix it till full release the game is beautiful.

its funny cause they did a campaign beta like a year ago and it was fine

@ I know. It seems that they have this unhealthy fixation on MP aspect, that many RTS fans don’t really care about

Well we have to remember here that the SP campaign takes a long time to script, it was not finished a year ago, a single mission was created and then got reworked based on feedback because it had issues and was not perfectly fine. And there was more recently a closed beta test on that part of the game which I obviously can't talk about but we can assume it's not finished. And different team members will be working on the missions to some extent compared to those planning out multiplayer. You just have teams working in tandem on different aspects of the game. Such as some people working on performance issues which affect both SP and MP.

@@2unguska thing is a lot of people do care its jsut you that doesn't MP will sell their product far longer than any great SP thing no matter how great

@ well, the way they went after it… look at warno and their “success” plus, a year has past and I see no major improvements in mp and servers.

Haha, took a while for someone to spot that ;)

What do you mean regarding Sea Power out of interest? Just there is too much going on at once? I get what you mean about BA, just was not sure on Sea Power :)

@@Bandanner the sub hunts and air operations in the vids I have seen make cmo look emotional. Its too much, sonar bouys for example i saw a vid where his helos dropped 85 looking for a sub. Imho seems wayyyy to sim/authentic to be fun. Its a trend i guess

@89volvowithlazers oh Sea Power is trying to be a sim/realistic yeah. That's actually part of the fun for the target audience :) But very much not everyone's cup of tea.

You and me both!

I have heard other people mention this too though not that its happened constantly, make sure you report it as a bug to them (you can do it in game with the bug icon I think).

Someone earlier on discord phrased it as "If you want to clear woods, you use tanks"... they were not totally wrong.

@@Bandanner i found out, when when 2 ambraham trophy rammed throug the woods killing almost all of my infantry:S

Good suggestions, I would just add, that if the infantry open fire then they should obviously then become visible but maybe that goes without saying.

@Bandanner ya as soon as they fire they should loose Stealth and are delectable. But if they move and relocate undectect out of lime of sight from the enemy they gain it back. That would make for some fun infantry shoot and scoot tactics especially with arty support dropping smoke

@recreantraze5248 agreed.

......Their missile.....the possesive 😊

well this is why its an open beta go tell the crew that

@sedghammer ya vehicles/Armors line of sight should work like how their armor system works. Example Front- line sight value Side -line of sight value Rear- line of sight value Top -line of sight value Also of you want to get real cool with it you could have a rotating like scanning line of sight that goes further out and only scans around when not engaging a target to simulate the commanders sight on armor vehicals if they have one. But it doent scan if engaging a target since it's focused on a target already

nah its fine how it is 🤣🤦

We were discussing this as a group last night and pondered the idea of including the destruction points BUT making them worth less than holding the cap points. And also reducing the amount of points you get in the last phase of the game so you can't just mass spam to win in the dying minutes. As for the choppers, I have noticed some things being more tanky than others but it depends what's shooting at them, AA missiles do seem to struggle more than they should to hit targets at times. Where AA guns seem to melt them pretty fast.

@Bandanner yeah currently its like the old game Mode just last Minute Spam to win wich really takes out the fun and any strategy really. All in all i had more fun with the last open beta than this one.

Weirdly I feel the same and others have told me they just aren't as enthused to play it, certainly there are people on both sides of course but its a shame, hopefully they will resolve some of this before release as the game has so much potential.

It's a beta not a demo so its not as stable as a final game/demo might be. I assume you are describing a laptop? Unless it has dedicated graphics card then I suspect it would struggle.

@Bandanner yeah, prefer finish products, well because this game made by small team dev it struggle a lot, maybe next year is really the good choice for them

It is for some reason and it happens in most games (for all players). Not sure why… clearly the net code side but unsure why it eventually corrects.

Welcome to Supreme Commander style gameplay, if it's not your thing give the game a miss?

Yeah it is pretty brutal when you first start as you need to learn the maps, weapons, tools etc too. It will get easier.

They do intend to have replays... I assume ready for release.

Could be a multitude of reasons, firstly the deck that the AI are using makes a difference as to what they will use. And within that there is then also an element of dice roll as to what they might use. For example the AI in the campaigns might have access to more arty so uses more of it compared to a basic skirmish (just an example not sure what you were playing). Then of course since I made that video they have made various changes to the AI scripting so they will behave differently. If arty is an issue either you need to counter battery (shoot their arty with yours) and keep moving your units constantly. As for CAS, just ensure you have reasonable long range AA and keep moving it, you should be able to keep them at bay or use your own jets. Unless they changed it the AI are not a fan of brining out CAS while you have a fighter jet on the map.

The Dr Who guy? I would have said he has quite a different accent to me, but I have not heard him speak much other than a little clip I found, he's Scottish originally I think, so still has a twang.

@@Bandanner Yeah Moffat is Scottish, idk if you have Scottish in your family but I notice the twang in your accent which was similar to his, who knows you could be cousins.

@@badwolf66 Er no not remotely Scottish, I'm English. I am afraid you are perhaps a little mistaken or struggling to differentiate our UK based accents.

@@Bandanner I am from the North West of England myself, I just noticed it when watching/listening to the video.

Haha yeah we certainly had more luck with nukes than the enemy

That's really good to hear, and I think you represent very well one of the core groups of people they are trying to bring in.

@@53Strat True, but the otherwise slow pace allows you to take a moment to breath. You can plan out your big, micro intensive attacks, rather than be stuck in a never-ending state of meticulous unit management. Case in point, my most recent match where I just focused on digging in at a defensive position, probing my opponent's AA capacity (he didn't have much) and using my accumulated points to drop 3 Spetsnaz teams, a IGLA, and some VDV inf/APC's on his urbanized flank, which completely screwed him. In WARNO, that same thing would have been far harder to pull off with how fast and micro intensive it is.

@@53Strat I agree, though I think "playing right" is rather subjective in this case and I wouldn't use such a term. Playing a micro intensive style is not right for everyone and STB have clearly created the game with the idea in mind that you don't require good micro to play and do well. Which is a good thing it means it has more mass market appeal.

Well that's the idea I guess stress the servers and flood the game to find more issues.

@Bandanner i would assume so yes, but i guess its also a balance since it also gives some of negativity from potential customers

The nukes will drop off, its just the excitement of them being new. They are balancing the game around 5v5 as their primary game mode, I guess on a casual level people prefer larger games as its less pressure on one individual (hence why 10vs10 is so popular in WARNO/WRD/SD2). Though I don't know all their reasoning. Adding match making for all numbers adds other work, such as maps/map size, layout, income considerations etc etc. Because we all know the first complaint will be "this map is too big for 1v1". Think about AOE 4 which does match making incredibly well across everything up to 4v4 they have randomly generated maps of the correct size for each player count with suitable numbers of resources etc. They are already struggling to release the game so adding more now puts it at risk of further delays. Which I don't think Slitherine would allow regardless.

@53Strat they are focused on 5v5 with the intention to appeal to a much bigger casual audience. 1v1 ranked would require a different balance approach and new maps etc etc which I can't see happening for release. Or they will never finish the game. So outside of custom arranged games I wouldn't expect it any time soon

@@53Strat Firstly I am not coming up with excuses for the devs, I am explaining what the situation is, if you don't like it don't play the game, uninstall the beta. The way they have the game set up its not going to be properly balanced at any stage without serious work but that works for 5v5 (I would have thought this was clear without needing to explain it). To make a game work in 1v1 ranked without ONE setup being the meta that EVERYONE uses you need to balance it properly. Look at the struggle they have getting WARNO balanced and in that they force more control using the Division system without people being able to create their own units. Just because you play a few 1v1s does not mean this would work in a full ranked ladder. People would complain very quickly. And again people would quickly complain about maps being too big for 1v1. Just cause YOU might accept it plenty of people would not and I have a feeling you would quickly complain too. Also you clearly know nothing about game development if you think they would not need to code "anything" new. Just adding new UI options, adjusting the menu, adding an additional ELO system for 1v1 ranked split off from 5v5 would all require designing and coding. It doesn't just appear out of thin air. And adjusting the map sizes etc would all take time of the development team from whatever "department" they work in. You ever heard the expression don't tell your granny how to suck eggs? At the end of the day Slitherine need to release the product to make back the cash they have expended on it so far. They are a company at the end of the day, so STB don't have unlimited time to add everything.

​@@53Strat yeah everyone's first response to anything like that these days is "I'm totally a game dev," or "I made my own game", so my response is prove it. Please link to your games steam page or similar and also progress videos with proof you are the developer.

@@53Strat So you have no proof as expected and are already backtracking on claiming you were making a game as are just now "diving into it" so you are a liar as expected. So I am confident that you don't really know anything about game development. So enjoy your ban.

Dunno about Brittan but Britain does.

No idea sorry.

They said they have an anti cheat system... Server side was it? I forget not sure if it's in yet.

Yeah I am really eager for the dynamic campaign to be honest, those are always fun in this type of game. I bet the community makes some amazing missions though.

@@Bandanner It will also be great to have pve multiplayer in the game. The devs have not ruled out multiplayer, but we will certainly have to wait for that to be implemented.

Haha WARNO was certainly an adventure.