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I understand what you're saying. Many Winters may not feel comfortable in the classic or conventional colours (or styles). Maybe you're like the majority of people, belonging to a Neutral Season, meaning a blend of a warm and cool True Season. There are two Neutral groups between True Spring and True Winter, and two between True Spring and True Summer. Sounds as though your colouring might fit into one of those.

Sounds as though you're very perceptive about colours, including your own :) For the light, washed yellow, an answer doesn't come to mind, possibly because I can't picture the colour and feel confident that we're thinking of the same shade. Is it lemon chiffon, banana, or oatmeal, or would another comparison be closer? I see many colours in retail clothing that are soft enough for SSu but too light for pastel and too pigmented for neutral. When the person wears them, the impression seems a bit washed out, although the more contrasting SSu can create interest with the lightness. I'm not sure if there's one correct answer but my impression is that these colours cooperate with the palette better than the individual (like black and white for Bright Spring) and could function in a wardrobe as layering items or colours in prints. For grey-olive-green, I encounter colours like this in various darkness levels and seem to place them around where you do, with the Softs. For the individual colour, the answer may come down to how it cooperates with the other colours in the Season. Many people of Neutral Season colouring may have resemblance to one of the neighbour groups, either in their natural colours, for example warm and cool appering colours visible in the surface colours that look warmer and cooler due to adjacent positions, or they actually test well in some of the neighbour colours but less well over the entire Season compared with their own group. Although in theory, they may be a bit nearer one neighbour than the other, I'm not sure that it's useful theory. We have plenty to manage in our own Season, though when it comes to deciding which items to keep in our closet, the cooler side of SA may serve you well. Thank you for the great questions, I'm happy that you're here :)

That's interesting, I hadn't considered how the images are adjusted beyond the effect of photographic lighting. I'm sure you're right because my eye is drawn to the brighter images in a gallery of thumbnails. What I receive is sometimes excellent and often, softer. Consistency in online images and the actual colour seems to be improving, at least for some brands, because I'm with you, it can be ridiculous. I imagine once a few brands level up, there's pressure for all of them to follow.

Thank you, I'm happy to know that you enjoy the videos :)

I hope that you found some new ways of thinking and deciding about neutrals. As the video mentioned, keep lighter side, enough pigment for Sp, and not too much red for the Sp palette version of the colour in mind. When you can go into the same stores and think different thoughts than before, items will appear. Sounds as though you're already there!

OK! That's a quality moment :)

Icy sunshine is good! Speaking my language there :) I agree with all that you've said, about the cool neutrals and colours looking fabulous, crisp, and energized together. And how shifting back a step in darkness can be a great improvement. Looking forward to hearing more of your thought process!

@RK-qs5dy (light) gray marl, reflective warm silver, and dark charcoal work well for me and have enough brightness or contrast. Mid greys don't work for me as they look too soft/low contrast against any of my spring colors and my skin. Steel and slate greys are the worst of all as they are mid toned, don't contrast enough with either color or depth, and in addition have a blue undertone that looks too heavy, sludgy and dull on me.

Haven’t finished the video yet but I’m a bright spring as well and tend to look better in very pigmented black, like black velvet, as opposed to a washed out black t-shirt!

For sure, faded anything is not the way to go with BSp. Actually, velvet can be gorgeous, richly coloured, and always looks luxurious.

Just a slight sheen on the black so light can reflect and move across it does help. Thank you for the video suggestion :) It's a big topic, we could have a video for each Season and colour family, or over-generalize to the point that we don't move forward. Many people have similar requests and if you had specific questions that apply to your Season, like greens for True Winter, and where you're feeling most challenged, I'd be happy to work them into a video. These are the questions that help all of us!

@@ChristineScamanHope this question isn’t too unrelated but if I have to wear a clothing color unrelated to my season for my job, for example a cool color when I’m warm, how do I do my makeup? Do I wear warm makeup to go with my complexion, cool makeup to go with my uniform or split the difference and wear a neutral makeup palette?

Oh, very good question. The answer may be a matter of opinion and mine would be to wear the makeup colours that suits you. Uniforms are understood as separate from the individual, that's the point of them, I suppose, and in that way they can make sense (or are not expected to). But makeup colour that doesn't suit the person is not understood and doesn't make sense or shows the person in a more altered way than the uniform alone, because the person's colouring hasn't changed. The situation may be similar to changing one's makeup colour to go with a new hair colour, but if neither work with the person, the mismatch is compounded. Others can separate the uniform's style and colours from us, but there is no way of separating makeup colour, given its placement. This is just my opinion. One of the best answers may be to consider how you'd answer a friend who has the same clothing requirement and lives in the same culture and social environment as you do. Thank you for asking. No colour question is unrelated :)

In so many Seasons, once I could recognize the neutrals, they seemed to appear more often, at least in some items, like outerwear and pants for BSp. Many Bright Winter light grays could serve well, ideally from the light or warm side their neutrals, or the grays from True Spring, helped along by whether your natural colouring looks more W or Sp. Light beige, like the bag in the second BSp image, may be Autumn but the colour is light and more yellow green than orange-red, which helps it work as a backdrop for the colours that are still to be added for a Spring outfit. URStyle, where the video images are made, and Pinterest are actually unrelated. The product galleries used to select the items for the videos are separate, but you can still find shopping information and links to the retail store by following the links for the images in the Description box below the video.

You've described it beautifully. Winter has a Yes/No position that's easier to recognize. The warm groups are less, well, black and white, and the difference seems vague. They look like one another. It took me time to isolate their differences in practical terms, the steps to actually tell them apart, since the colour properties alone didn't give me enough confidence in my choices. I'm happy that you appreciate the information in the videos, I'm learning as much as everyone else :)

Many thanks, I so appreciate hearing that the video provided you with answers. And that the steak analogy was useful!

I'm so glad to hear it, thank you! Spring neutrals can be less straightforward to understand, and where I live, harder to find. I hope you have some new guidelines to work with and find many wonderful choices :)

Thank you, I'm always happy to know the videos are helpful for you :) You may be quite OK with your Autumn neutrals, they can have a place in BSp, possibly TA most, for the yellow-green effect without too much red as DA may have. If you can drop the item into the images in the video, they may cooperate enough to work in combinations.

@ Thank you that’s great advice! I found out the hard way that soft autumn was definitely not the best option for me

@@ChristineScaman Thanks to you I replaced some clothes that no longer fit with new ones in a bright spring grey! At least I’m pretty sure they are. It inspired me to rewatch this 😊

I hope the video is helpful in your shopping :) About the pictures in the video for BSp, I had a thought that you could take screenshots of the still images once they're on the website and have them in your phone for comparisons when shopping. No need for exact matches, rather a sense that you could drop a new item into the group and it would cooperate. I also forgot to mention that BSp has a light silver-gold blend that looks like the silvery puffer jacket in Panel 3 about Gray.

Yes! As a BSP, I was sticking to cream as my neutral, but that is not always the most practical color.

Yes, I also find that BSp seems different. Our discussion about brightness and the brain finding balance from part 1 comes up, where the brighter the colours, the less pigmented the neutrals. BSP's warmer neutrals look like Spring but the cooler side (combined with the wide value range) has a distinct influence of Winter. To your question about how common is warm colouring, the answer may depend on a few things. I'd guess warm colouring is as common as cool, although neutral warmth (as in Neutral Seasons) are by far more common than the True warm and cool. It's hard to know the real answer, since I think more cool-toned people visit colour analysts in general. Warmer colouring may have other things on their mind or their calendar, or find less value or meaning in appearance. I've also thought that trends and availability may favour warms more. For example, blonde hair dye and warm tones in makeup are popular in media and with consumers. Cool-toned people figure out at some point that those colours don't work in their favour, and less so after 35 or 40, look for solutions, and find colour analysis.

@@ChristineScaman Interesting that some Warm season people might not seek color analysis. Would you say that maybe Warm season people aren’t as noticeably affected by cool colors the way Cool season people are affected by warm colors? Or do you think each are visually affected the same by their temperature-opposite colors?

Wonderful questions, thank you :) Everyone is affected by wearing too-warm or too-cool colours for their colouring, but most don't know how to recognize it, and why would they? It's not the kind of knowledge we learn just by living. We may see more easily in others, not defined as, "That colour is too cool for you.", but rather a sensation that the person is tired, fragile, unhealthy, or similar impressions. When we start out at anything, we follow the crowd, often the first and easiest choice presented to us. In a colour analysis session, once the effects of warm and cool colour are explained, clients see it right away. It's a question of knowing what to look for, the difficulty of seeing ourselves, and possibly the challenge of changing embedded beliefs despite having new information. We're also influenced by the preferences of culture or media images, where repeated exposure has a 'normalizing' effect in our perception.

I'm not familiar with the colour but perhaps it's more of an Autumn white, or Light Summer and not bright and warm enough.

You have a perceptive eye :) LSp has a warm red and it's so interesting. Soft-ish, since LSp is the softer Spring, and Autumn might cross your mind but the red is a touch too bright to belong with salsa reds.

I'm happy to know you find information that's useful here, thank you :) I'd agree that LSp has several grays, cooler and warmer. Light taupe may be a good description, although I think of taupe as having pink tones, which LSp gray doesn't significantly, but if you've found a version that works for you, that's perfect.

Intense may be a word that means different things to different people, like deep. I don't have a solid definition, but like you, I think of it as brightness and I'd agree that Light Spring is the softest of the Springs. Colour analysis is like any industry, I imagine, the less system thinking applied to the inputs, the more subjective the outputs. Neither of the True warm groups, True Spring and True Autumn, are at maximum brightness, they're moderate, like the value sliders in the image in the video with the brackets. TA's range is at the lower end of the brightness range, TSp's range at the higher end. Now that I've typed that, it's interesting, and true also that brightness for the Cools behaves like their value ranges. Winter is at the extreme high and low for colours and neutrals, and Summer is in the middle ranges. Thank you for your question, you've given me something to think about!

Thanks! I enjoy your musings ❤

So glad you enjoyed the video, I appreciate hearing that it was helpful for you. I love hearing that you're enjoying shopping now that it's back under your control! It can be a quest with a prize rather than, as you say, a chore, often without the prize :)

Thank you so much 😀 Brown often surprises me as well in how elegant it can look. Also a colour that lends itself less to exaggeration so style and silhouette become important.

Thank you, much appreciated!

Many thanks :) I completely agree that looking at all Seasons gives us distance from our own colours and more objectivity. A large part of this game is pattern recognition. With 3 colour dimensions divided over 12 Seasons, there will be repetition and degrees of the same idea applied in many places, and in time, patterns appear. As you say, the ideas are easier to grasp when our eye sees them in many contexts and combinations.

Happy to hear that, thank you!

I struggle so much finding neutrals technically in a warm spring palette…I’ve kind of given up…most of my neutrals are compromise contenders. 😂 thanks for this practical take. Very useful.

Honestly Christine, what helped me the most were the luxury swatches I bought from you. They de-mystified everything. Also, for me personally, shopping in person is very important as often, especially with sweaters and as a bright spring, texture and yarn type does not translate well online. In my experience, fabric type is just as important as color. I found a knitted blazer/cardigan at a shop that I would never have purchased online. But in person I could see the yarn was not matte, the color the correct black and the shiny gold buttons were the icing on top. The warm taupe/oatmeal color in the packet of fabrics helped me to find the most perfect winter coat.. finally! It has been a helpful learning tool. I noticed some stores like JCrew and Ann Taylor have been using terms like "warm" and proper color names.. probably because they realized how many people were actually searching for "their colors" since color analysis became popular again.

Demystified is a perfect word for it. Colour can seem so abstract and theoretical, which is a normal part of understanding systems, but we also 'get it' better than we realize from the world around us, a system come to life. The Neutrals Sets, with the fabrics, were a turning point for me to understand my neutrals (and everyone else's). Many people find the coloured fabrics 'close the circle' of understanding their Season, where everything falls into place. Fabric does have a big influence in how light behaves, although it's also a place to be open-minded in these days of unusual and surprising colour/textile combinations. Sounds as though you're finding your way to your answers! I very much hope you're right that retail is offering more and better choices, I appreciate that the search can be exhausting or take far too much time for educated consumers.

For me as autumn it bugs me that dark brown is not as common as black. It does explain why some autumn colors are too bright for me when they’re in a glossy fabric like a silk or patent leather. It makes sense that spring and autumn have a lot of overlap

I agree about dark brown, it can be so elegant and has more personality than black. We almost don't see black anymore, or maybe we never did, useful to give an impression of better quality or styling. I appreciate the other side of this for the manufacturers, they might be left with more unsold inventory with brown than black. True about the overlap in colour dimensions, and interesting how in actual people, Autumn and Spring react to colour so differently.

Thank you so much!

I'm glad that idea made sense to you. Black can be a colour we're less aware of and once it's pointed out, we can almost feel it.

These are great questions. Many viewers ask about texture, having recognized its influence on colours. I'll make a point of discussing it more within videos. In the modern day where textiles can be made in any colour and reflectivity, a video on this topic would be helpful. Thank you for the suggestion :) About SA red, I agree that soft, rich red terracotta is not easily found. A colour that might be bright enough to tip into True Autumn would work, one step back from TA's darkest tones, but once again, not easy to find, and TA's bittersweet reds may be too bright. I wonder if it could be found among Accessories. I googled 'soft terracotta red scarf' and under Shopping, found some surprisingly good choices. Tried it for cardigan, same great results! Happy shopping :)

Always welcome :)

So nice of you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

Warm taupe can be great, a kind of mole brown tone, not too pink. Traditional cool gray isn't the best, I agree, neither the person nor the garment looks great, but the light beige-greys and yellow-grays can be great :) My favourite neutral on LSp may be peachy pink beige, like a conch shell, really good.

Spring neutrals will appear in the next video, in Part 2 of Choosing Neutrals. Hopefully soon!

You're so welcome, I'm glad you found some answers :)

Great to know that you find value in the videos. Part 2 with warm neutrals is almost ready to film, hoping to have it posted in November.

Beautiful imagery for the two groups! Cold cloudy days was so interesting, seeing a winter sky as steely gray, really good.

@@ChristineScaman Thank you. Your analogies are pretty unique. Keep them coming.

It's good that you're giving yourself time to work through the transition. You may find a lot of items you own that will work well in either group :)

Warm Spring and True Spring are terms used by different colour analysis companies. I'm familiar with True Spring, which means Spring with no influence from another Season, compared with the Neutral Spring Seasons of Light Spring and Bright Spring, which are blends of Spring with Summer or Winter. I can't speak for other systems but Warm Spring may mean the same or possibly is a term for a Spring-Autumn blend, which is not a group within the system I use. Hard to know which Season you are today, but it probably indicates that Spring colours play the primary role in your colouring.

@@ChristineScaman Thankyou. I really appreciate your reply. I think if warm spring is a mix it’s possibly with autumn.

Thank you! It's the style I keep coming back to :)

You are so welcome! Thank you for being here :)

Great observations about the influence of colours on your own appearance. Neutrals for Winters may be in the realm of white, gray, and black, but once they add a colour, the effect is as if they've been plugged them into a power source and they come to life. Never too late to reject the culture or beliefs we were born into :)

I am bright winter woman and can relate. I have luckily used always black but deep colors feels to me easier to use than adding brights. But I love colors.

In any Season, I imagine that if each person were asked their wardrobe preferences, the answers would be surprisingly different. What they have in common, and it sounds as though you belong in that group, is that understanding their colours opened a door to continue growing in a beneficial direction :)

You have an impressive understanding of the Season relationships, their neutrals, and how to apply the palettes. I agree on every point. I have no experience with digital palettes so I'm not the person to make a video on that topic. Permission to show them in that format may be required, not sure about that either. NDU Colors encourages all of us to share their product in an open conversation, which is why I've begun adding this aspect to the videos. I'm happy about it because ultimately, we pick up our palettes to make our colour choices. Absolutely Yes to BSp neutrals being an education unto themselves. They're hard to describe in words or analogies. Each colour family within the neutrals seems to follow different parameters, though I find that true of Sp neutrals in general. In time, I've found their unpredictable aspect to be what I recognize, like if I'm not sure what the colour is, I check BSp. The images for the Warm Season Neutrals are almost done, so still a couple weeks out from filming and posting. True also about colder weather and less colour, choices of practicality and not knowing what colours suit us. IMO, Winter is long enough without fading ourselves too. Folks around us seem to love seeing colour, it's uplifting, and with the Brights, it's a management issue. Wearing one colour at a time seems the easiest solution. Less colour doesn't mean no colour. Was it Marianne Williamson who said, "It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us." I meet so many people for whom years of not showing up as themselves have added up and the idea is frightening, too scary to try. The stakes of being You are much lower than playing it small to fit in, and more so in the years ahead. Make the choices others make, you'll have their results and their struggles. Just a choice and every choice has a trade-off. Life commentary aside, I hope the video is helpful for you once it appears. I hope you ask many questions :)

You're so welcome :) You mean that mushroom-top? I've been seeing it in the plumage of sand pipers and other bird species that live here and in that context, I could understand it better and see it as a Summer-based colour with warmth, so your Neutral Season will be happy. Glad the Neutrals fabrics are helping (you may be a Light Summer), they're great at showing how a dot of paint or ink would look in various textiles.

@@ChristineScaman Yes, you are right. I checked my colour samples, and I am a light summer. Oops!

Details, details. Your Neutrals Set will see you right :)

Wonderful to read this, sounds like inner cleansing. One day, we know what we longer need from the past and the freedom in letting it go is lovely, as if we open a whole. new room in ourselves. I love jewelry too. It adds so much for its size and unlike clothing, can be found in many colours and prices. Thank you for mentioning your horse, they are magnificent animals, you're so fortunate to have his beauty and friendship in your life :)

At [19:21] the rose gold is a big nope because it appears sort of clownish, as if he is wearing his child’s pjs. This outfit is too light, monotone and shiny/airy for the depth and substance of his facial hair and overall coloring; he also needs more contrast for the same reasons imo. It might have looked fine with at least a different jacket that had more texture with a stronger depth of color.

Agree about the rose gold, the colour on its own may be quite wearable, though a softer textile and smaller area might be better.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you for the feedback. I set the recording and movie editing volume to be natural in the mid-ranges, maybe I should dial it higher. Does turning up the volume on your computer or phone help or doesn't make a difference?

@@ChristineScaman The max on my phone is pretty quiet. I definitely think setting it a bit higher would be ideal.

Many thanks, I appreciate that you find information of value presented in different ways. Warm neutrals for cool Seasons is on the list of future videos :)