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Yes This was at Carlisle Kingstown Industrial Estate

Technically Speaking Yes, 1 Appliance responds Initially. My Guess is that because of the Possibility of exposure to the Mcdonalds Building itself the Second Appliance Made To Scene.

Probably the initial caller has said it’s right next to the building so the operator would have mobilised a 2nd appliance just in case

From initial call until units arrive it is never 100% clear information. Better safe than too late except if another emergemcy somewhere which needs resources more urgently.

We always send a second Appliance in case the fire spreads to the building and if it did then you have a whole other ball game . It’s common practice in case the need to ferry water if there’s not a fire hydrant available ie if it was on a motorway where there are no fire hydrants .

Puts some of the US firefighting videos to shame eh. Especially when it's 10s of minutes before water is pumping on some occasions.

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5 mins minimum 😂😂

They don't use high pressure hose reels that are pre connected to the main pump via a third stage and is already charged with water which allows getting to work quickly, American firefighters tend to use pre connected flaked hose which has to be charged with water and kinks in hose removed before showing water which takes extra time. They use larger diameter hose initially for higher volumes of water.

I agree. However I'm guessing their Biggest Priority was putting out the vehicle fire and stopping it from spreading.

@@Cumbria999 Not really an excuse, breathing in that stuff is a one way ticket to cancer or health issues.

@@staffsemergresp That's True. Their Response time was around 3 Minutes from the Intial Call and the fact it took till the 3rd Firefighter for a BA Set to be In the Mix is a slight concern.

@@Cumbria999 Yeah deffo, nice appliance anyway!

I recall the days when we didn’t have BA, now almost 80 and still here to tell the tale.

Workington

It’s not my video it was given to me by someone..

It does seem that Way. Most of the ERP's are being Replaced. Although Unsure on the deal with Whitehaven, Got a New Appliance in 2022 and now they've got one of these. Guess they're just loved that much haha.

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ALP is the Aerial Ladder Platform (the one at the front)

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Glad you enjoyed it!

I know the one on video will be going to Kendal, Both Carlisle East and West will be getting them (East’s already on the run) Workington, Barrow I’m not too sure where the remainder will be going to though!

Where exactly is what?

@@Cumbria999 really?

@@dianaka2105 yes Really? Saying Where exactly is it? That’s not exactly Specific and if your asking where the Drugs dog does the demonstration it’s near to the end of the video. The dog had already done the demo earlier in the day and they hadn’t moved the training aid hence the dog went straight to it..

I’m doubtful considering their closest location to where this was filmed is well over 12 Miles away. I mean it is possible but usually this vehicle is used as Driver Training

@@Cumbria999 Doubt it too, seeing as (unlike MDP and BTP), the CNC don't have powers outside 5 square km from any civil nuclear establishment, so unless the Chief Constable of the local force (guessing Cumbria Constabulary) has requested mutual aid from them, they don't actually have any powers outside. So the only reason (other than mutual aid) that they'd be able to respond on blue lights outside of that would be for driver training

@@EastSussex999 Correction......MDP have far fewer powers outside the wire of establishments and facilities they protect than CNC officers, CNC is as already mentioned 5KM.......MDP does not have a mesurable boundary so therefore within law its the very perimeter of the sites they police is the limit unless mutal aid etc etc is requested

@@stevekiel82 ATCSA powers say otherwise, MDP have full powers of a constable throughout the country including outside of their jurisdiction, if they believe an offence is being committed, has been committed or is going to be committed, or if requested by a member of an HO force or the BTP. CNC however, do not have ATCSA powers, meaning that outside of their 5KM they can only be recognised as civilians, not constables, unless they are acting under a mutual aid agreement.

@@EastSussex999 Yeah OK, so the same as "Any person" powers where the offence is triable on indictment or triable either way......like any person in the land, basically it's rubbish that MDP officers have full powers end of story........maybe re-read what the legislation actually says: Jurisdiction of MOD police 244.The Ministry of Defence Police (“MDP”) is a civilian police force exercising full constabulary powers within its jurisdiction. This jurisdiction is defined in the Ministry of Defence Police Act 1987 (“the 1987 Act”), which is the principal legislation governing the force. The limitations on the jurisdiction of the force have been reviewed in the light of the threat of terrorism and of the changed deployment pattern of the MDP. The changes in deployment include the increased use of mobile patrols, involving movement between defence establishments and bringing MDP officers more into contact with the public than previously. 245.The jurisdiction of the MDP is governed by section 2 of the 1987 Act. The overall effect is to give the force jurisdiction in relation to defence land, property and personnel within the United Kingdom and its territorial waters. The MDP is also able to operate on land in the vicinity of defence land where a constable of a local force has asked for assistance. 246.The section extends the MDP’s jurisdiction, by amending section 2 of the 1987 Act. 247.Subsection (2) amends section 2(2) of the 1987 Act, which deals with the places where the MDP have jurisdiction. It repeals the existing power in relation to acting on land in the vicinity of defence land in response to specific requests from a member of a local force. The repealed power is superseded by a new power provided for by subsection (4). 248.Section 2(3)(b) of the 1987 Act currently provides for the MDP to have an additional jurisdiction in relation to defence personnel. It applies anywhere in the United Kingdom in which the MDP do not have jurisdiction under section 2(2) of the 1987 Act. The jurisdiction is thought to be confined to the alleged commission of offences by defence personnel. Subsection (3) extends the jurisdiction to offences against defence personnel; for example, an attempt to bribe defence personnel to disclose confidential information. 249.Subsection (4) confers powers on the MDP where a request is made by a member of a local police force, the Police Service of Northern Ireland, the British Transport Police or the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority Constabulary. The new powers supersede those repealed by subsection (2). Unlike those repealed by subsection (2), the new powers are restricted to the particular incident, investigation or operation in relation to which assistance is requested, but they are not restricted to the vicinity of defence land. They will be exercisable within the police area of a requesting local police force, within Northern Ireland (in the case of a request by the Police Service for Northern Ireland), within their railway jurisdiction (in the case of a request by the British Transport Police), or (in the case of a request by the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority Constabulary) where an officer of that force may act. 250.Subsection (4) also deals with occasions on which MDP officers face emergencies where their normal jurisdiction would not apply. It may not be possible for the MDP officer to obtain timely authority from the local police force to deal with the incident. Subsection (4) empowers an MDP officer in uniform (or having proof of being an MDP officer) to act without a request for assistance from an officer of a local police force or other police officer, in limited circumstances, if he reasonably believes that waiting for such a request would frustrate or jeopardise the purpose of his intended action. These circumstances are where the MDP officer has reasonable grounds for suspecting that an offence is about to be committed, is being committed or has been committed, or where he reasonably believes that action is necessary to save life or prevent or minimise personal injury. Section 99 Provision of assistance by MoD police 251.This section inserts a new section (section 2A) in the 1987 Act. It deals with cases where another police force requires extra resources to meet a special burden. The new section allows such assistance to be given by the MDP, where requested by the chief police officers listed in subsection (4), to enable their force to meet any special demand on its resources. It provides that, where MDP officers serve with other forces as a part of such assistance, they come under the direction of the chief officer of the force with which they are serving for the time being and have full powers of a constable of that force, (i.e. without the jurisdictional limits applying to MDP officers). Overview 250.Sections 100, 101 and Schedule 7 allow the British Transport Police (“BTP”) to act outside their railways jurisdiction when asked to assist in relation to a specific incident by a constable from the local police force, the UKAEA constabulary or a Ministry of Defence Police (“MDP”) officer, and in an emergency. The changes also give BTP officers certain powers already available to local police officers, including powers under the Terrorism Act 2000 and the ability to enter into mutual aid agreements with other forces. Section 100 Jurisdiction of transport police 251.This section permits British Transport Police (“BTP”) officers to act outside their normal railways jurisdiction. These measures are to improve the effectiveness of the BTP by enabling it to play a full role in protecting the public from terrorism and other crimes. 252.The BTP’s railways jurisdiction gives its officers the powers and privileges of a constable on, and in the vicinity of, the railways and elsewhere on railways matters. However they need to move between railway sites and often have a presence in city centres. BTP officers are frequently called upon to intervene outside their ‘railways’ jurisdiction and it is estimated that some such 8,000 incidents occur each year. In these circumstances BTP officers previously only had the powers of an ordinary citizen, despite being police officers fully trained to the standards of a local police force, and routinely dealing with the same range of incidents in the course of their railway activities. 253.Subsection (1) allows a BTP officer to assist a member of a local police force, the MDP or the UK Atomic Energy Authority Constabulary (“UKAEAC”) when assistance is requested by a constable of one of those forces. The BTP officer can only assist in relation to a specific incident, investigation or operation but will have the same powers and privileges as a constable of the requesting police force. This is to avoid confusion, so that there will be no difference in the powers available to the BTP officer on such an occasion and an officer from the other force whom he is assisting. 254.Subsection (2) allows a BTP officer to intervene if he reasonably believes that an offence has been, is being committed or is about to be committed; or to prevent injury or save life. In these circumstances the BTP officer will have the same powers and privileges as an officer of a local police force. A BTP officer can only act under subsection (2) if he satisfies the requirements of subsection (3). 255.Subsection (3) sets out the circumstances in which a BTP officer can act under subsection (2). He must be able to show evidence that he is a BTP officer, i.e. be in uniform or have documentary proof, such as his warrant card. In addition, he can only act if he reasonably believes that waiting for a request for assistance from the police force with primary jurisdiction (i.e. the local police force, MDP or UKAEAC) or waiting for a constable of one of those forces to act, would frustrate or seriously prejudice the purpose of his intended action. Section 101 Further provisions about transport police and MoD police 256.This section gives effect to Schedule 7 which provides the BTP with additional police powers in certain circumstances. These powers were only previously available to local police force constables, and not BTP officers. Certain powers are also extended to the MDP. The BTP and MDP are under the same restrictions as local police forces regarding the application and use of these powers. Details of the amendments to the certain Acts of Parliament are contained in the note on Schedule 7. In short does it say the can piss around doing what they want when they want......discuss

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Yes at the Little One.

I suppose I am. Although considering its Mossbay Asda I’d say I’m still in Mossbay

Salterbeck

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Thanks! I’m shocked he didn’t go over it most normal people do 😂

The only people who seem to have the BMW i3’s now are Cumbria Police.

They are going the wrong way for that one 😂

It’s Civil Nuclear POLICE you know the CNC

Ok

@@Jb-Trading257 try learning to read before making dumb comments cnt

Maryport

Were they not involved with the hunt for Derick Bird? when he went on the rampage in Cumbria Sounds like they were involved in regular police work and more in that situation

@@solsunftm possibly. I’ve no clue I was so young when all that happened

Did you fail to see where I said driver training.

Yep. Where I work, Heysham, they must have a lot of driver training. They're patrolling/during all over the show. Attending RTC's, still driver training through.

Their jurisdiction ends 5km from their sites. They are indeed basically just armed security guards, however in some areas they are actually rather helpful. Few local agreements these days where they’ll attend stuff (including unresourced jobs) for the HO force. Gets them out and about a bit and a break from gate up gate down!

Neither did I

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It actually just Alerts people to their presence