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Artur Szewczyk
Добавлен 8 сен 2011
Scan Speak DIY Revelators and Illuminator speakers playing with Mingda MC368-B90 tube SE amplifier.
Scan Speak DIY Revelators and Illuminator speakers playing with Mingda MC368-B90 tube SE amplifier.
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Zaph's Audio 2,5 way sealed Scan-Speak speakers break-in.
Просмотров 4,8 тыс.2 года назад
My newest project is finished and started break-in. They are sealed 2,5 way Scan-Speak beryllium Illuminator tweeters with 18 cm Revelator woofers. Sounds great already, I might lower a little tweeter level later on but for now just enjoying these really one of the best speakers available. Playing with new GEKT-88 tubes and now upgraded with Miflex caps Mingda amplifier. 😉
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90 part 4
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Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90 part 4
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, part 3
Просмотров 3,7 тыс.3 года назад
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, part 3
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, part 2
Просмотров 4,3 тыс.3 года назад
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, part 2
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, part 1
Просмотров 10 тыс.3 года назад
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, part 1
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, Shengya CD-18CSII part 3
Просмотров 2,8 тыс.3 года назад
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, Shengya CD-18CSII part 3
Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, Shengya CD-18CSII part 1
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Lii Audio Crystal-10s, MingDa MC368-B 90, Shengya CD-18CSII part 1
My 75 gallon fancy goldfish aquarium.
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My 75 gallon fancy goldfish aquarium.
My 36 gallon fancy goldfish aquarium.
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This is my current 36 gallon tank with fancy goldfish and new 75 gallon getting ready. You can check out my new video of my new tank ready and running!
fb is too high in that concept, at least for me...the high and midrange for sure is superb with that drivers
Budujesz sam te kolumny czy masz dobrego stolarza jeżeli tak poproszę o namiary.
Can you please give me the driver link?
@@akramhossain1931 They're discontinued but I think these are their closest model: lii-audio-europe.com/product/speakers/fast-10/
Do you still have the crystal 10 drivers? Do you want to sell them if you have?
Sound beautiful! Put me in a trance... : )
Jak oceniasz techinskie glosniki? Sam zastanawiam sie czy by sobie nie zamówić i cos zbudowac
Zależy co kto lubi i jakiej muzyki słucha, ten akurat model wypadł moim zdaniem najsłabiej.
ruclips.net/video/xjioMVCYtrQ/видео.htmlsi=xCswAV9wVasL8zHE
That sounds really terrible. Your room is very reverberant.
Unfortunately It sounds worse recorded on by my phone, but You hear Your speakers not mine they must be really bad.
Great looking build. I am considering either 2.0 or 2.5, how did you decide to go for 2.5?
Since it's a closed enclosure, 2,5 way will have more bass and little higher efficiency for tube amp.
@@Artur19760512 I just built mines, and not too thrilled with the sound quality. Sound is too harsh, almost unlistenable. I had to drop the tweeter level with R0 increase from 2.2ohm to 5ohm. I am using original one, d3004/660000. We'll see if anything improves after break-in period. I have also built ZD5 long time ago which is still excellent.
@@DrZdravke I dropped tweeter level a little bit also, brak-in should help also. I'm also using them with SE tube amp which will sound different for transistor one too.
@@Artur19760512 which tweeter exactly did you use? They are playing much better now, I even shorted tweeter resistor completely.
Which tweeter exactly did you use?
Jak te kolumny maja sie do pylon jasper ? Tam tez wykorzystane scan speak revelatory.. pochylone obudowy w pylonach zapobiegaja falom stojacym.. roznica pewnie w zwrotnicy i wygluszeniu..
Nie słuchałem Pylonów, myślę że większą różnicę w brzmieniu zrobi wysokotonowy niż zakrzywione obudowy. Ja zastosowałem berylowe, cenowo kosztują ok 2 razy drożej od jedwabnych w Pylonach a kolumny wyszły mnie ok połowy ceny Pylonów, zwrotnic nie porównam bo nawet nie wiem co oni tam wsadzają, kolumn gotowych dawno już nie kupowałem i nie planuję więc nawet jakbym gdzieś usłyszał to też nie ocenię bo dużo zależy od pomieszczenia i reszty sprzętu na którym gra, trzeba by było odsłuchać obok siebie.
Have to agree, horribly quite, have my desk top speakers at full volume, can only just hear it, certainly a lot different to your previous demo of the same speakers. Have Spoken to you before, i nearly built these but went for the Troels Revelator 851 kit, just awesome sounding set of speakers. Regards.
Yes I know, next time I'll raise the volume more.😉
This is the ones Zaph|Audio ZRT 2.5-Way, Revelator
Yes
@@Artur19760512 they sound amazing , I checked on line there’re is a two way but yours is three do they all sound the same
@@hamzatatta952 2,5 way have more bass as You have 2 bass drivers
@@Artur19760512 now I can understand why they are 1500 it’s got e. But people say that cross ❎ have interference with the acoustic n voices what’s your opinion on that.
@@hamzatatta952 every speaker in the world has some compromises, You have to choose which one sound the best for You.
have you heard the Crystal 6 its meant to be very gd, better than the 8, I like the separation in the instrumental clean detail, vocals, taste of music like what is playing, jazz instrumental and vocals
No, I don't have Lii Audio speakers for a long time now, I built new ones with Scan speak drivers.
@@Artur19760512 how did they sound
@@hamzatatta952 I think I replied many times about their sound, they're compromise if You really want a full range sound from one driver it's impossible to accomplish and on easier types of music they're great and very impressive but ones You play something really demanding they're will show their shortcomings right away.
@@Artur19760512 I listen to jazz instrumental female vocals , no rock or heavy stuff. Can you remember which one you had ? Even through my Bluetooth they sound hd n you can hear the sedation in the acoustic as if they are in your living room what amp did you use with them ?
@@hamzatatta952 I used the same SE tube amp as now, it's more than enough for me even with less efficient speakers I have now. You can see it in one of my videos and it's listed in the title. Jazz and instrumental should be ok but my current speakers sound more real to life without any over exaggerations, plus unlike full range drivers they'll sound great with any kind of music I play.
Great sound! Just one KT90 per side?
Yes, it's a single ended design.
Sounds like a 250k system for 10k
xernya
Fajne te skrzyneczki odważny kolor moje mają fornir orzech sycylijski grają super ruclips.net/video/-Qw56SUSCpg/видео.html
Grały bo już dawno ich nie mam teraz gram na 2,5 drożnych scanspikach też diy ale dużo bardziej uniwersalnych do każdego rodzaju muzyki. Szerokopasmowe były fajne do pewnych rodzajów muzyki ale niestety innych nie dlatego z czasem je zmieniłem.
@@Artur19760512 Wiem wiem ja jestem mega zadowolony z moich radzą sobie z prawie każdym gatunkiem muzyki wcześniej miałem kolumny na scan spikach można je obejrzeć na moim kanale ale gdy przeszedłem na lampę to niestety nie bardzo się zgrały więc wymieniłem na obecne lii audio.
@@marekkudyda4079 no wszedłem zobaczyć, te trójdrożne widzę ale one chyba tylko średniotonowy mają scanspeaka a reszta wygląda na SB Acoustics też dobre ale trochę inne brzmienie. W moich 2.5 drożnych zamkniętych największą robotę robią wysokotonowe beryllowe illuminatory bo schodzą do 1700Hz czyli całkiem nisko. Grają bardzo precyzyjnie i szczegółowo a zarazem neutralnie i nie nachalnie żaden inny materiał w kopułkach tak nie zagra. Ja też byłem zadowolony z Lii Audio przez pewien czas do takich kawałków jak ten np. są super ale po czasie i przy różnych rodzajach muzyki zacząłem zauważać mankamenty i jak już zauważysz raz to później zwracasz na to uwagę cały czas. Zobaczymy czy zostawisz je na dłużej czy zmienisz na coś innego po czasie.😉
Greetings Artur - Wonderful build and they sound/look gorgeous. I am planning to build the Zaph ZRT 2.5 sealed and was wondering if you had to make any adjustments to the crossover when upgrading to the beryllium tweeter that you used. Thanks in advance and also for providing some inspiration.
Apologies and please disregard. I just saw that you posted the answer in one of your other replies.
I adjusted the value of tweeter's resistor as it was little too loud for me.
They look amazing! Where are your crossovers at? One at 3500 and one really low? Loke 200hz or something like that? They sound amazing too!
It's a 2,5 way design one is crossed at around 1200Hz and another around 1700Hz. Everything is here: www.zaphaudio.com/ZRT.html
fajni to gra - tylko akurat to nagrania nieco za cicho. Sam robiłeś?
Obudowy robił i lakierował znajomy stolarz resztę ja. Fakt trochę cicho się nagrało. Głos był ustawiony tak jak normalnie słucham a na nagraniu wyszło ciszej ale prawdę mówiąc zauważyłem że czym starszy jestem tym ciszej słucham muzyki, za głośno zaczyna mnie szybko męczyć a tak zamykam oczy i się relaksuję.😁
@@Artur19760512 fajnie wyszło, gratulacje
@@lausiv12345 dzięki, obudowy z wyglądu dosyć proste, zamknięte, mają sporo wzmocnień w środku, w jedynym słusznym kolorze żony białym 😉 ale najważniejsze mają ładnie grać i zawsze chciałem użyć głośników Scanspeak i się wkońcu udało w dodatku z berylową kopułką wysokotonową z serii Illuminator. Połączenie detaliczności ale nie męczących czy natarczywych wysokich tonów z przyjemną trochę ocieploną średnicą. Przyjemnie się słucha i raczej pozostanę z nimi na dłuższy czas.
@@Artur19760512 też lubię beryla, ale zaskoczyłeś mnie, że to nie jest BR tylko zamknięta. Ja aktualnie swoje stroję ciągle i chyba już więcej nie wymyślę, resztę muszę adaptacją pomieszczenia ogarnąć. U Ciebie też słyszę problemy, ale z pogłosem. U mnie bardziej ze wzbudzającym się basem, wygląda na fatalne mody własne pomieszczenia - muszę nad tym jeszcze popracować, bo z kolumn już więcej nie wycisnę chyba.
@@lausiv12345 zdecydowałem się na zamknięte bo stoją dosyć blisko ściany i nie chce mi się ich przestawiać za każdym razem do słuchania. Z pogłosem za bardzo już nic nie zrobię, zrobiłem lamele, izolacja w suficie, duży dywan, gąbki wysuszające w obrazach na bocznej i tylnej ścianie, ale niestety salon otwarty na jadalnię, kuchnię i przedpokój, musiałbym przeznaczyć jedno pomiesczenie do odsłuchów.
🤔 not sure, that a 8" is a better choice
Lii Audio's 8" will have less bass and overall won't sound as refined as their 10" which is kind of a sweet spot in their line up if You want to use just a single driver.
@@Artur19760512 Thank you👍🏻
Did you put any damping material inside the boxes: foam on the walls, wool in the empty spaces, etc? I am contemplating this exact build. Nice finish on those cabinets: how did you achieve that?
Heavy damping is not recommended on these, I just glued one piece of sheep wool on the wall behind drivers. Paint was sprayed by a professional cabinet painter.
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Nothing below 80hz?
They go lower than that, I don't like too much bass.
@@Artur19760512 thanks. to much is not ok that is true but i'v heard from a friend you have to use a sub and i don't like subs at all.
@@brunobracke4612 It's a lot to ask one driver, to cover 20hz - 20,000hz! It can be done, even with the smallest of drivers ruclips.net/video/-U3XW6TV9zI/видео.html I do love my bass, and I love subs in my car, but not in my HIFI system. I say that as a hypocrite, as I do have two Peerless 6.5" subs in a transmission line .... but that's because I have a number of t-=lines lying about, and it would be a shame not to use them from time to time.
Love it
Pięknie wyglądają i brzmią z jakiego projektu zrobione są kolumny czy to linia transmisyjna.
Dzięki, kolumn już nie mam ale projekt jest wzięty ze strony producenta.
@@Artur19760512 Tak źle grały czy był inny powód
@@marekkudyda4079 grały dobrze ale jak każde szerokopasmowe jednak mają swoje ograniczenia, teraz mam bardziej uniwersalne 2,5 drożne na scanspeakach jak zresztą można zobaczyć na moich pierwszych odsluchach po zabudowaniu. 😉 Skojarzyłem Cię z grupy Chińskiego audio gdzie też wpadam. 😉
@@Artur19760512 Wszystko zależy od muzy jakiej się słucha myślę że do muzyki której słucham były by idealne a jakie zastosował pan wytłumienie jaki koszt takich skrzyneczek.
@@marekkudyda4079 koszt skrzynek to teraz po podwyżkach wszystkiego ciężko mi powiedzieć ale są sporych rozmiarów więc materiału trochę pójdzie. Wytłumienie tylko na tylnej ściance bezpośrednio za przetwornikami.
Can only imagine how good these sound in person! Bravo.
looks pretty
Great looking and terrific sound ... could be my next project to pair with a Decware zen amp.
👌 fajna polka pod tv zdradzisz nazwe moze jakis link ?
I can imagine myself sitting inside a bathtub at the sweetspot enjoying the music😅
Whatever makes You happy 😉
Love your beautiful white speakers. How did you finish them? Send them to car workshop for a gloss finish? How is the M6? I was planning to put a F6 into an old TDL RTL3 cabinet but it was suddenly out of stock🙁
I finished them myself, they weren't professionally painted unlike my new Scanspeak 2,5 way painted by a professional cabinet making shop in semi gloss. M6 are ok for their price but not as good as Crystal 10s or Scan-Speak.
Okay, well the Crystal 10's sounded really good, so you to ditch them after building these, does say something. On top this , they are sealed which I would not expect! They do sound very good, even on RUclips, not mention look good as well. I think you may be partial to white ! Scanspeak drivers are top knotch. Can I ask if you designed the whole project inc crossover and enclosure ? ( or is this a Zaphs Audio speaker kit ??? ) I have built the Troels Gravesen " Discovery 861 " DIY, my first. I now have 4 DIY projects on my short list ( its only going to be confusing, I know ) Though these Scanspeak drivers are not cheap, I would be keen to build these, can you shed some light ? many thanks. ( the Lil audio build would be much cheaper, one driver ( C10's now discontinued and reduced price, if still available )
Crystal 10s sounded really good but unfortunately only on some genres of music and on some like rock and more complex kind it showed it's weakness. These are more expansive but more universal for every type of music. Crystal 10s had this massive soundstage is felt like music is enveloping You from all directions which was vey special and on these soundstage seems like it's even further then the wall, but people's clapping for example which is very hard to reproduce realistically sounds way more natural on Scanspeaks and they also sound warmer, so might be more relaxing for listening for extended periods. I also substituted silk tweeters with beryllium illumintaros which are great and never harsh like some other metal tweeters can be. I modified Zaph's crossover with changing resistor on the tweeter from 2,2 to 3 as it was little to loud in my opinion. As with white color it's the only one my wife agrees on as it's our living room.😉
@@Artur19760512 Thanks for your detailed response. I will search the web for Zaphs Audio and see if I can make it happen. Regards
@@cruise2023 Zaph's Audio also have the same 2,5 way BR option if You want something with more bass and You can buy nice premade crossovers or whole kit with drivers on Madisound.😉
@@Artur19760512 Had a look at Zaphs Audio but found the site yrs old with no mention of the 2.5. I did find on Madisound the Zaphs Audio ZRT 2.5 kit so I assume this is it. Kit with options of upgraded crossover and acessories for either ported or sealed build. No mention on the BE tweeter!! Did you alter/change this yourself ? if I remember correctly with the BE tweeter, the crossover is the same as the Cresendo. Why the sealed over the ported?
@@cruise2023 yes I upgraded tweeter to beryllium and talked to Madisound and they told me as specs are very close no crossover modifications are necessary. I went with sealed as my speakers are standing pretty close to wall and my room is not very big so I didn't want too much bass.
Have to say Diana sounds as if she is in the room, awesome!
the cristal 10S is the best sound...
Crystal 10's are really fine drivers but not for every kind of music, that's why now I'm playing with Scanspeak 2,5 way with beryllium tweeters. They're breaking in and improving , I was told that Revelator midwoofers need quite some time to sound their best so I'll post more videos after playing them little more. I also would like to add a quite interesting scanspeak dome midrange driver and make them 3,5 way some day. Right away I can tell that Scanspeaks are warmer sounding than Lii Audio.
@@Artur19760512 Yes would love to hear more on the 2.5 project, left you a message on that vid, cheers
@@cruise2023 I just uploaded new video today, after around 100 hours of break-in.😉
I love those cabinets, but they are very big... but with a 10-inch the bass must be very good, without losing the detail of the full band. very nice and good job.
sounds good, thanx 4 sharing
How do you find these compare to your lii 10 crystal design, I cannot decide whether to build a speaker using lii driver or top end scanspeak drivers, your opinion would be greatly appreciated
They both sound great, Scanspeaks played for only few hours so they still need some break-in and it's too soon for final judgment but Crystal 10s are gone and these are staying that says something. They're are more universal for pretty much any kind of music unlike fullrange drivers. The only thing I might change in the future is to build a 3 or 3,5 way speakers with them. I'm really curious how they would sound with Scanspeak's dome midrange drivers.
Cześć. Ładnie gra tobie ten secik. Drivery kupowałeś na ALLI?Z głośnikami są plany skrzynek?
Głośniki kupione na stronie producenta, plany też tam są. Producent nie daję gwarancji na Ali i mogą być podruby.
Dzięki za odpowiedz . Masz może Link do strony producenta?
@@piotrhifi2259 www.lii-audio.com
Утомлённое солнце.Классная обработка
hi, I have a pair of silver 10s and looking for a good box design. I can't find the link for this enclosure, can you post it for me please ?, will be much appreciated. Thanks
It's here 😉 www.lii-audio.com/dt_gallery/plans-for-cabinets-crystal-10-fast-10/
Diy enclosure. No data no plan!!!! And 1000€ are expensive. +tax+toll
You can find plans and more info at Lii Audio's website and Facebook group. My pair of C10's costed me less than $1000 including tax and delivery.
The bass is smeared. The resolution is good)
От скольки герц?)
Sorry, I don't understand.
Лабиринт?)
Preciosos
Estos cristal 10 se pueden utilizar abiertos
beautiful room aesthetic
Thanks!
You bought the drivers from aliexpress? Are you happy with the build quality?
From Lii Audio's website, built quality is excellent.
Beautiful sound and song, did you just bought the Lii Audio transducer or whole box with cabinets
Just Crystal-10 drivers and build the enclosures according to drawings on Lii's website