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Ok it’s not the caliber!! You hit a elk! At 400 yards in the shoulder!! WTH!! I can tell you have only been hunting for 10 years. Past 300yards don’t try it. This is on you!!! I have seen many many elk, moose, deer drop with a effective shot with 300. And dead deal!!! Learn your caliber and your limitations!!

Probably cause you don't know how to shoot or what bullets to use

You are so full of bull crap I hunt in Canada with a 308 and have dropped elk and moose in their tracks at 400 yds you need to go back to the range and learn how to shoot you are full of bull crap my 308 drops them where they stand and that was my grandfather's gun get a bigger shovel guys or better yet get a front end loader

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My speculation of what really happened: Some young guys overreached and tried to hunt elk at 300-400 yard distances. In many cases they missed and hit the soil or trees around. The slowed down ricochet bullets hit the animals. Fix? Limit to 200 yards first, until hit always where you want.

The little antlers in the back is what happens when you don't use a 308 🤣

Your can do way more with a 300 win mag over 308 . You can go as low as a 110gr to 240gr if you wish I have 3 300 win mags I shoot 168gr 3340FPS in one 190gr 3168 in the other and 208gr 2920 in my 3rd . I can say this they are all fanomanal . Way less drop than 308 way more velocity . I reload but even in factory ammo 300 win mag is hard to beat . I chose a 30-06 over a 308 and I have . If you want a short action get a 300 WSM same performance as 300 win mag in a non belted short fat cartridge. Now you. An get 30-06 , 300win , 300WSM in a AR-10 platform . Way better combat rifles that's just my opinion. Good luck and good hunting. God bless you and your family God-bless America 🇺🇸

You two should go back in the closet with your vast knowledge 😂

.a 308 at 1000yards still has the same power as a 357 magnum at point blank range....nuff said..

Nice video guys, I would say that you need a little bit lighter bullets with more speed at those long range shots. I mean if you shoot an elk at 400 yards with 308, just take Barnes TTSX but 130 grain bullet and if you are reloader, than push that load up, it must be hot if you want to work at those ranges... This is just something what I would do..

Obviously these two have been taking iffy shots at game and shoot beyond their abilities

Meanwhile 303 British which is about the same is one of the most popular moose and bear rounds ever.

Sounds like a bullet construction or bullet placement problem more than a calibre problem.

Wtf did I just watch

Yawn...what a bs snooze fest of a video.

You should try 125 gn TTSX's in that 308.

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Thanks for sharing your experiences. I had a cow elk a couple years ago and contemplated the .270 or 308. i chose the .270 as it didn't fail me on my last elk. I had a hunch this may be your gripe. I shot a doe with a 165 grain at 2650fps and the barnes ttsx mushroomed but only about 25 percentof the bullet and the deer ran 50 yards.

i getting 2650 in a 18inch barnes ttxs 165

Morning Guys. Stop talking nonsens.The Nato 762, 308 is the best allround caliber that you can find..If you have never been in enemy territory in a operasional combat zone with one then please stop critizising the 308.It is the best.I am an Angola Bushwar veteran.

I'm hanging on something that was said....your concern with 308 is at extended ranges. Any cartridge will fail if shot beyond it's effective range. 308 maxes out at 300-350 for elk. If you decide to take longer shots then yes, get a Magnum. Also something of note is bullet construction. It's not likely that a Nosler Partition or a Barnes TTSX would stick in a scapula. Maybe an old core lokt or something would. I'm not emotionally biased in this argument. There's just too many variables being ignored.

I quit hunting with 308 cause when I shoot and then open my eyes the thing im shooting at doesnt get hit.

Satire maybe?

I’ve used the 308 lots along with many other cartridge choices. As a further hunter, I’ve shot probably 5000 coyote with various iterations of 22 cartridges. Hunting big game the one common threat is that there isn’t a mammal in the universe that can’t survive without lungs heart liver and or blood. The package delivered makes the difference not only the postman. A few hundred feet per second is inconsequential inarguably. Most hunters are really shitty to mediocre marksmen at best. They opt for magnums to make up for the shortfall in their abilities. Range estimation is a joke and I’ve proven that point numerous times where I bring along my laser rangefinder and get into ranging discussions with other hunters and when asked , I’ve yet I meet any guy who’s been even remotely close to their estimates.

Operator error boys

CRAZY theory- Your barrel twist is off. This is the only way I can see a 30 cal projectile at those energy levels not penetrating deep. I think you are wasting potential energy on a tumbling projectile. You are shooting a heavy projectile from an older rifle - until recently many manufacturers used slower twist rates for lighter bullets. I have seen rifles that shoot nice holes at 100 yards and that shoot keyholes at 4-500 yards. Now here is the real kicker, your round doesnt have to keyhole to still be losing tons of energy. If it is marginaly stable and right on the edge of a fast enough twist - it could still be producing close to rounder holes in paper but dumping lots of energy. Think of a tight spiral football throw versus a slightly wobbly one - LOTS of wasted energy. Confirm this on paper and not steel targets. Try the lightest ttsx mono your rifle can shoot - at the highest speeds it can shoot and you will see amazing penetration.

Can you do a follow up video on the 70 mile hike on public land and what that was like? I'm having trouble understanding that part. Realistically you don't look like you would make more than about 12 to 14 miles of progress per day with a backpack carrying a tent and food and a rifle and ammo, especially in the winter or fall months when the sun sets earlier. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just trying to understand how that situation worked out on foot without vehicles of any kind

Can't wait for "future episodes". Thanks for the laughs, guys.

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The us army should look into “Elk Armour”.

Nice elk racks on your wall.

Elk are tough animals, i once had to put 3 rounds of 7mm 175 grain core lokts in a cow, all vital hits, its not the round boys, I hunt with an 06, this year im thinking about switching days with a BLR 308, haven't shot anything with, will see, coming from an ex elk guide, i would rather guide someone with a 308 that there comfortable with, than someone with a Magnum that there afraid of the flynch

So... if 308 Win doesn't have enough power past 300 yards on Elk.... what does that say about the 6.5 Creedmoor?

Sounds like most of your problems with the .308 is shooter issues and incompetent bullet selection. I took a bull at 750 yards that weighed 989lbs with a .308 using a 175gt TTSX, one shot, less than 3 steps and he fell. Through the front shoulder and right into the heart and hes now on the wall and the meats in the freezer.

As elk do, you keep shooting until it drops? Sounds horrible

Don't think 308win the problem. It the operator

Ugh…sounds too much like “The View.” 3-mins was all I could stand.

Man people will say the dumbest things about calibers for clicks...

Heaps of my fellow countryman here in New Zealand have shot large red stags out to 550 yards with the 308. Bullets dont just stop on a shoulder. Use adequate bullets within their expansion velocities and elk are in trouble.

I'll take a guess ....."because you stupid"?...😊😅

This guys are drunk.

You can take anything with a 150gr Remington CoreLokt if you know what you’re doing

But did He/She DIE tho hahaha Ain't never took a shoulder off one that ain't dead bubba Like a boxer complaining about a TKO and not a KO hahaha I get it tho, feels like a gamble God bless

Bullshiit! Learn to shoot!

Did the recoil hurt your beta shoulders? The dude on the left has the physique of a vegan

I've had it happen but the bullet had hit a tree first. These guys are full of bs.

Amatures.