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Welcome to indie miners, the ultimate destination for music lovers who crave insightful discussions, reviews, and interviews about the latest releases from the world's most exciting established and independent artists.
Our weekly show is hosted by BJ and Al - both good mates and seasoned music critics - and together, they explore a diverse range of new releases from various genres and styles, from rock, blues, folk, and beyond.
We're also not just about new music either... we also take a deep dive into the classics, analyzing the most iconic albums and tracks of all time, and exploring the stories behind the music. From The Beatles to Bowie, from Prince to Patti Smith, we leave no stone unturned in our quest for musical enlightenment.
So if you're a true music aficionado, join us every week on indie miners, where we dig deep into the world of music and bring you the best of what's new, what's classic, and what's yet to come.
Our weekly show is hosted by BJ and Al - both good mates and seasoned music critics - and together, they explore a diverse range of new releases from various genres and styles, from rock, blues, folk, and beyond.
We're also not just about new music either... we also take a deep dive into the classics, analyzing the most iconic albums and tracks of all time, and exploring the stories behind the music. From The Beatles to Bowie, from Prince to Patti Smith, we leave no stone unturned in our quest for musical enlightenment.
So if you're a true music aficionado, join us every week on indie miners, where we dig deep into the world of music and bring you the best of what's new, what's classic, and what's yet to come.
The Beach Boys' Sunflower: Why did it Bomb?
indie miners dive into The Beach Boys' 1970 album "Sunflower," exploring why it became the band's worst-charting album despite its later recognition as a classic. They compare their experience of discovering the album to first hearing Love's "Forever Changes"-both albums initially underrated but now seen as masterpieces. They discuss the unique contributions of Dennis Wilson, whose tracks stand out for their distinctiveness, often diverging from the traditional Beach Boys' sound.
They also highlight the album's lack of a standout single, noting that it’s more of a cohesive album full of deep cuts rather than commercial hits. The discussion touches on internal band politics and how the abs...
They also highlight the album's lack of a standout single, noting that it’s more of a cohesive album full of deep cuts rather than commercial hits. The discussion touches on internal band politics and how the abs...
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SMASHING PUMPKINS • AGHORI MHORI MEI • REVIEW
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indie miners dive deep into the latest Smashing Pumpkins album, "Aghori Mhori Mei," just 15 months after the conclusion of their ambitious Atum Trilogy. Billy Corgan promised an old-school vibe for this record, aimed at the longtime fans, but does it deliver? Key Highlights: Old School Vibes: Does "Aghori Mhori Mei" live up to Billy Corgan's promise of a nostalgic, fan-pleasing sound? We share ...
CIGARETTES AFTER SEX X's NEW ALBUM REVIEW
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CIGARETTES AFTER SEX X's NEW ALBUM REVIEW
SUNO : It's Good But Is It Great?
Просмотров 182Месяц назад
indie miners dive into the mind-blowing capabilities of AI in music generation, specifically a new text-to-song tool. They highlight the tool's potential to democratize music creation, allowing anyone to produce songs, but also express skepticism about its ability to replicate the emotional depth and creativity of human artists. They also discuss how this technology might be used by artists cur...
We Need To Talk About SUNO.AI - ChatGPT for Music
Просмотров 9222 месяца назад
indie miners dives into Suno.AI, an innovative generative AI tool that allows users to create songs from text prompts. It discuss the tool's ease of use, providing examples of how lyrics can be transformed into professional-sounding music within seconds It also covers the ethical and legal implications of using AI to create music, comparing its challenges to those faced by earlier platforms lik...
feelslikeimfallinginlove • new COLDPLAY single reaction
Просмотров 1 тыс.2 месяца назад
indie miners discuss Coldplay's newly announced single, "feelslikeimfallinginlove", and their upcoming 10th album, "Moon Music." The conversation explores the band's transition to a dance-rock sound, noting the earworm quality of the new single. It reflects on Coldplay's career, suggesting a split between their early, rock-focused albums and their more recent dance-influenced work. The speakers...
A World Without Napster?
Просмотров 1742 месяца назад
indie miners delve into the profound impact of Napster on the music industry and explore the ethical questions surrounding music piracy. By 2003, the music market had contracted by 20% due to technologies like Napster, which revolutionized how we accessed and shared music. We discuss whether it was ever okay to steal music and how Napster paved the way for legal streaming services like Spotify....
The Mike Love Solo Eras
Просмотров 1 тыс.3 месяца назад
indie miners delve into Mike Love's solo career beyond his tenure with The Beach Boys. It discusses the newly released Beach Boys documentary on Disney , expressing that it missed many stories, especially about the band members' solo efforts. The conversation focuses on Mike Love's attempts to separate from the band in the late 70s, highlighting his solo projects, including two unreleased album...
The Beach Boys Disney+ Documentary • Deep Dive Review & Analysis
Просмотров 2,4 тыс.3 месяца назад
"The Beach Boys" documentary that has just been released by Disney provides a nostalgic yet insightful look into the legendary band's history, focusing on the family dynamics and creative tensions that shaped their music. While the production quality is top-notch, some fans may feel it glosses over significant post-1968 events and controversies. The documentary prominently features Mike Love, o...
Pink Floyd's Animals on ATMOS: Fallout & Review
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.3 месяца назад
In this video, we dive deep into the latest Atmos release of Pink Floyd's iconic album "Animals." We explore what you get for your money this time around, comparing it to previous releases and analyzing the differences in sound quality. Chapters: 00:33 - The Run down 01:50 - What you get 02:38 - Buy or Boycott?
Restored Let It Be Film: Essential Viewing?
Просмотров 1,4 тыс.3 месяца назад
indie miners deep dive into the newly restored 1970 Beatles film, "Let It Be." This iconic documentary offers a candid look at The Beatles during a tumultuous period in their career. But is this restoration worth your time, especially after the release of "Get Back"? Join us as we explore the film's quality, differences from earlier versions, and each band member's contribution to the final cut...
LEMON TWIGS : A Dream is all we know : ALBUM REVIEW
Просмотров 3654 месяца назад
Indie miners review and critique "A dream is all we know," the latest album by indie rock band The Lemon Twigs. They discuss the album's heavily derivative sound, drawing comparisons to classic bands like The Beach Boys, The Beatles, and Wings. While acknowledging the band's impressive vocal abilities and harmonies, the hosts question whether the album lacks a distinct identity and fails to evo...
New Smashing Pumpkins Guitarist Revealed!
Просмотров 10 тыс.4 месяца назад
In this video, indie miners delve into the recent announcement of Kiki Wong being selected as the new guitarist for the Smashing Pumpkins. We explore Kiki's impressive background, including her social media presence, travel blogging, and experiences touring with renowned artists like Taylor Swift and Bret Michaels. The video also examines the selection process, which saw over 10,000 submissions...
Original Let It Be Film... What to Really Expect
Просмотров 8 тыс.4 месяца назад
Indie miners preview the upcoming May 8th release of the original 1970 Let It Be film, which has been upscaled and restored using Peter Jackson's AI technology. It provides historical context on the film's troubled production amidst the Beatles' breakup, highlighting how this version differs from the 2021 Get Back documentary in its shorter runtime, darker tone, and emphasis on the studio perfo...
Lifeblood @ 20: MSP's Most Underrated Album?
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In this video, indie miners dive into a 20-year retrospective of the Manic Street Preachers' album "Lifeblood," discussing its themes of alienation, solitude, and the quieter shift in the band's musical direction. Released in 2004, "Lifeblood" marked a departure from the band’s earlier, more political work, embracing a softer tone that reflected the personal challenges within the band, notably ...
THE BLACK KEYS • OHIO PLAYERS • REVIEW
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THE BLACK KEYS • OHIO PLAYERS • REVIEW
The Vines' Winning Days turns 20: An Interview with Hamish Rosser (2024)
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The Vines' Winning Days turns 20: An Interview with Hamish Rosser (2024)
PINK FLOYD CASH GRAB? New ANIMALS 2024 Atmos Remix announced
Просмотров 2,5 тыс.5 месяцев назад
PINK FLOYD CASH GRAB? New ANIMALS 2024 Atmos Remix announced
BLEACHERS Self Titled Album Review ... Should Jack Antonoff give up his day job? 😀
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BLEACHERS Self Titled Album Review ... Should Jack Antonoff give up his day job? 😀
Band on the Run @ 50: Underdubbed or Underwhelming?
Просмотров 2,3 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Band on the Run @ 50: Underdubbed or Underwhelming?
Do We Still Need Radiohead After The Smile's Success?
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Do We Still Need Radiohead After The Smile's Success?
THE SMILE • WALL OF EYES • ALBUM REVIEW
Просмотров 3,5 тыс.7 месяцев назад
THE SMILE • WALL OF EYES • ALBUM REVIEW
From Quiet to Silent: Has James Iha Lost His Voice in The Pumpkins?
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.7 месяцев назад
From Quiet to Silent: Has James Iha Lost His Voice in The Pumpkins?
TOP 5 ALBUMS OF 2023.... by indie miners
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TOP 5 ALBUMS OF 2023.... by indie miners
HALL & OATES • RESTRAINING ORDER FALLOUT
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HALL & OATES • RESTRAINING ORDER FALLOUT
I agree it's very shallow and they lost their sound. The lyrics seem horrible on some tracks too. they perhaps tried something new but there is no tsructure in the best way and the average level is super low.
The Beatles had a variety, apparently The Black Keys can't embrace variety?🤦♂️
This album deserves 4 stars, there are songs that I can't stop listening to
I love this new album… It's not perfect like an SD or MCIS but it feels like a band album...I've been listening to SP since 1995 and I'd like a raw album like Gish
Nothing can compare to Radiohead, their music is astonishing
He might be quite happy with his role.
Tribute or monetary speculation? I think that out of 5 editions, only one deserves the purchase and it's Limited Edition 1Lp plus 10-inch vinyl. Thanks for this brilliant video.
I don’t think they’ll ever officially break up….I think they’ll just release a new record/tour once in a blue moon from now on. I have a feeling they’ll release another record before this decade is over. I hope at least.
The "Almost Summer" soundtrack is better than "Looking Back With Love", and both of those albums are head and shoulders above "Summer in Paradise". Mike is not musically gifted. He may be able to win lawsuits, but he lived his life on the coat-tails of his more talented cousin Brian.
Oh God. It's awful. I was checking out their new album and saw this album from last year. This is the worst song ever. These last two albums his voice sounds terrible unless it's drowned out with loud guitars.
Yes we do need Radiohead more than ever. The Smile is nice. But can´t beat Radiohead. Never
Musically Corgan has explored so much and have tried to move away from the magic of the first albums. I applaud that, recently I hear him using colors from that era and that’s alright. But I can’t tell if SP wants to be metal, Tool, Black Sabbath or a Nu Metal band I can’t tell from this album. It sounds like everything and nothing. What has kept a me away from Corgan music is that his Vocal melodies do not complement the music as much as before. He starts singing the vocals of the new albums post Machina and I’m like ok bye. This is my opinion and doesn’t reflect the awesomeness of the band. 🤘🏻🫡
Musically Corgan has explored so much and have tried to move away from the magic of the first albums. I applaud that, recently I hear him using colors from that era and that’s alright. But I can’t tell if SP wants to be metal, Tool, Black Sabbath or a Nu Metal band I can’t tell from this album. It sounds like everything and nothing. What has kept a me away from Corgan music is that his Vocal melodies do not complement the music as much as before. He starts singing the vocals of the new albums post Machina and I’m like ok bye. This is my opinion and doesn’t reflect the awesomeness of the band. 🤘🏻🫡
How musically illiterate do you have to be to say ATUM “doesn’t have any songs”?
Mate, ATUM was the biggest pile of shite going around, lucky to get 2 stars on most reviews. From memory it wasn't released on CD as the record company were worried it'd be used as a coaster for a beer whilst you thought about ending it all. Thanks for stopping by!
I have not listened to it. But all artists seem to hit their prime at some time and then always fail to recapture it... I guess you re only young once
Winning Days will always be a favorite of mine. Seeing Hamish on the tour in the states was mind blowing. He's the real deal. Great to hear about the new music☀
Thanks for stopping by man, and glad you enjoyed the video, very much looking forward to hearing new music from the Vines in the future!
IMO. This is better than old School Pumpkins. There is literally nothing, anything boring about this recording. For instance back on some classic songs like disarm , they bore the hell out of me =Good song but kinda boring.... Theres nothing boring on this, and sound quality is amazing, and the writing is better (crazier). These are way better musicians than they were when they were kids. Tons more knowledgable. They brought the juice from 1990s to 2024
Holy shit. Finally someone capable of criticizing the older work. I agree.
A true return to forn. Great record. Best ap album in 30 years
Not sure about 30 years but we're on the same page with a return to form!
@@theindieminersi must correct myself. Best since adore
I’d probably enjoy this album if it was purely instrumental lmao.
@AndyKard84 I agree somewhat. There is actually software that can remove instruments or vocals. I can't remember what it's called but you can Google it. I'm going to try and see how it sounds just instrumental. Great idea!
lol... Actually you could use lalal.ai to do that and push the vocals to back more
@theindieminers interesting. I will try it out. Maybe it'll be better. Some of the lyrics like labyrinth milk syringe just made me shake my head haha. I think instrumental will solve a lot. Not totally, but a lot of my frustration.
I think that Billy is in the unique position that his singing should be further back in the mix like in the old days. The sharpness of his voice eclipses the music. If they rolled it back just by 10%, everything would be more "pumpkiny". By that I mean more congruent. His voice demands this, and they had it dialed in perfectly during the first several albums.
Dude I totally agree. I just can’t stomach his vocals, it really hurts the songs.
Back in the day his vocal melodies tended to complement the music after machina they are in the way of the music 😊
Come on. It’s still the same crap. Zero emotion. Billy over singing. Formulaic rifts. Jibberish lyrics. Sounds like a B sides to me. Nothing like the 90s energy sound or angst.
Smashing pumpkins were throughout the 90's even up to Corgan's Zwan project amazing. Anything they did was amazing. Post Zwan until now he has not wrote a single good song. To say that this is inspired by Siamese Dream, or Mellon Collie is just ridiculous. The singing is horrible. I don't know if its because higher octave. I think they need Flood to produce an album and have Billy out of the room. They are probably friends with the female back up singer, she needs to go. Billy needs to stop over pronouncing lyrics which is super super annoying and many people have brought that up. Speaking of lyrics, this is the most lazy lyrics, and extremely pretentious. I couldn't get through the album because it was embarassing to even listen to. No emotion is totally right. There has been none since Zwan. As a fan, I have given Smashing Pumpkins so many chances because its not like they had 2 great songs. They had 7 albums (counting Pisces and the double album as 2 albums) of fantastic, near perfect songs and songwriting. I guess they just don't care anymore. There is not one person on this planet that can tell me truthfully you enjoy the lyrics. It's the worst lyrics of really any artist this century. People are liking these guys because they play guitar now? That is like Picasso stepping away from painting for a while, then coming back, opening a paint can and just pouring it on on the floor and leaving saying isn't this great? Then saying what else do you want I used paint like you wanted.
Agreed !
Its funny, feels like we're almost trying to defend him now after we've had a number of episodes dedicated to how horrible Atum was :) ... Look it wasn't great - still think it was ok though - and probably what you'd expect from a band that's 35 years old. Agree that none of the lyrics and singing hold a candle to the 90s stuff, but the addition of actual band interplay (as opposed just sounding like a Corgan solo record) is the ingredient here that makes it at least better than the last few records ...
@theindieminers thank you for the reply. I would say yes, it is better than the last many records. Of course as you can guess, the last records were atrocious. This was bad in many ways, but it sounds like at least they all contributed. It just blows my mind how they can have really over a decade of pure magic, then it's this. I want to believe they can do it, but this was the end for me. They don't need me as a fan, but I'll always say 1991-2003 was magic for Billy Corgan and company. Hits or not, the entire records were outstanding.
I guess that's what happens to most bands after a while. The counter-initiative thing to say is that the "better" that Corgan feels like he has gotten at the songwriting craft over the years the worse they became. Among other things, a lot of the songs in the 90s all had breathing space within them - these days songs seem to be crammed with all possible ideas to a technical precision but potentially to their detriment. Maybe not 100% correct in articulating that...
Isn't it possible that James doesn't have many songs in him nor as much of a vision? You'd think the massive volume of new works Billy have put out since 2000 hasn't been varied and eclectic.
Loved the interview about my favorite album, good job guys! I became a Vines fan this year and cant wait for a new record!
The pumpkins biggest issue is that Billy needs a producer who will pick and curate his songs. He’s a great songwriter but not a great producer. That will never happen though. Having the other members contribute more would help to keep the music fresh too. Jimmy is like the best drummer in the world yet the last few albums sounded like a drum machine.
id love to hear what steven wilson would do with it
Absolutely! Would have been good had someone thought outside the square
Amazing news!! Glad I came across this interview, its been a pleasure listening to you
Thanks so much for watching, we can't wait to review the new album!
Have been into Radiohead from the start and imo you can't replace them, seen the smile in Glasgow and it really was a brilliant gig, what would be perfect is if there is a last album from Radiohead or have we already heard it!!?
Love was a member of a group that the Wilson’s put together, he sang the parts Brian gave him and changed some verses in a group of songs, some for better some for worse. Any thing else is cringe worthy.
I wish you researched this more guys. Suno was the wrong tool to focus on for starters - anyone semi-serious in music considers suno a plaything. Udio, on the other hand… i can give you plenty of examples where its impossible for any outsider to accurately determine whether it's human-made or not. But the biggest issue i have is this. The current set of tools is the worse it will ever been from this point onwards. The next generation of this stuff, where the intelligence is in the application (and enhancement) of music theory rather than just generative - that is what is going to blow people's minds. Let's revisit your position in 6 months
Firstly, thanks for watching! You raise some valid points, and we’re actually probably closer in seeing it your way than what you might think. Udio does seem to offer more variety at the moment, however in general we’re still struggling to find any generated music that we would listen to on repeat. It would be awesome to be proven wrong (esp. in six months) - and the technology is crazy cool, but the high bar HAS TO BE for this to generate the best albums of all time on demand with minimal human involvement, otherwise what is the point? It feels like reaching this outcome might be tied to achieving AGI, which is not a given. In the meantime, these tools will certainly help semi-talented musicians be better, which is actually a good thing!
Can't wait for the New VINES Record
Thanks for watching! We can't wait too! Hamish was a good sport coming on to the show...
Surfs up and Holland are my fav albums
Both awesome albums! Sunflower as well..
Another great epsisode Lads!
James and Jimmy are hired guns...it's the BC show, and has been since 2012 when he was the only original member left. Billy has produced everything since then and has all the writing credits. They're just the touring band and if they're adding anything in the studio, it's based on what Billy wants.
Probably been the BC show for basically forever ... but now it does feel a little transactional ... like it feels like BC needs James and Jimmy to represent Pumpkins being seen as a band, which most people don't really buy...
He produced and wrote the 90s albums too. There are only a handful of iha cowrites
I feel like Iha is someone immune from reading body language. You're just not going to get what you would form normal people.
Fantastic video guys. I saw them last night in Cardiff, they are still absolutely spectacular.
Thanks mate, I've been watching the live videos come through online, to repel ghosts is epic live! Not going to lie mate, bit jealous right now! Thanks for watching. Let us know if you'd like a deep dive on any other manics topics!
I'm sure he gets some creative input. i think they got used to three guitarists (and sometimes 4 with katie cole) that for live shows it's more dynamic. he getting paid probably same as Jimmy for the live shows and def more than bates, wong and cole. i'm sure he's making more money than a perfect circle paid him (and pumpkins tour every year).
udio > suno
Im creating music for my channel in udio and its amazing, but its hard to keep cohesion sometimes, but gives a lot of freedom to assemble songs together. Im thinking about trying Suno now to check it out, its fun to create. I use for Instrumental and some with lyrics that I wrote. It is a new world we are stepping into. Nice video gj.
Very interested to hear how that is working out. If I were in a band like I was in uni I'd be using this especially to finish songs off... But I do think it's not necessarily great at producing innovative original content .... Yet. We need to check out udio... Thanks for watching!
@@theindieminers You are spot on, it is really not great in being creative enough, but it works for brainstorming some ideas. The cool thing in udio is that only produce 30s pieces, and then you need to keep generating more 30s pieces and trying to make it a song in a way you imagined. ruclips.net/p/PLzaO-jSqdKlBIjXB-VZSy7O1KSRgK4sQw This is my playlist of a full 9 song setlist, would love to hear what you think of it. The lyrics are not great since im a non native english speaker. Creative and good music players/band will not be replaced at all in my opinion, but it is nice to create something that fits your style.
Whether the results are "studio grade" is very debatable. To me, it sounds like a 128kbps mp3 from 1999. All the vocals sound auto-tuned, no matter what the genre. It's basically the Speak-n-Spell of music generation. On the plus side, it completes a whole song in one shot, without having to build it all piece-by-piece.
Maybe somewhere between demo and pro sounding 😀 I've heard a lot of indie records that don't have anywhere near as good a sound as what this can produce (even though the songs themselves might be better)
Yes, but can it be run locally? If not, I ain't interested
As we've seen in other parts of the gen ai world this will probably be around the corner
I have studied AI for years. Most of the AI models now are based on neural nets. The neural net operates very similarly to the human brain. So, when you train an AI it is no different than when you train a person. The new AI models are not simply spitting out search results. They are not doing a copy and paste of something out there. They are generating something new from the inspiration of the past. It is no different than people. Say you take a close look at the Beatles and study their music in depth. You can see the influence of classical composers in their music. If you look at pop music you can see why so many pop songs sound the same as all the others. The basic structures are the same. I spent a semester in college thinking I could be a music major. My music theory class was all about studying the forms of music from the past. We learned the rules of things to do and not do. We learned voice leading, what makes a pleasant cord for voices to sing. What we learned from all the rules we were taught could then be used to create something that sounded exactly like Bach, Mozart, Handel, etc. The main challenge is that the AI can gobble up the information so much faster. If I want to learn something new, say philosophy, I will go to the Internet, books, videos, etc., and start to learn what others say, and what others have done in the past. If I want to make my photography better I will study Rembrandt, VanGogh, Mattiese, and DaVinci, and then apply those lessons to my work. I will also study modern photographers like George Hurrell, Ansel Adams, Joe McNally, and others. I am not copying those artists. However, I am copying their style. I am getting inspiration from them.
I 100% agree. I came to the comments to say something very similar. I don't quite understand the arguments against AI which tend to come in two forms: First, the AI is copying other artist's work, to which I saw, we already have laws to combat duplication of other people's work. Then they tend to pivot to the second argument which is that they can't use copyrighted works to create an algorithm, which I don't think is anywhere in copyright law. Maybe that's something that's soon to be hanmmered out in court or in congress, but as it stands I don't see how it's any different than an artist like me listening to a bunch of Buddy Holly songs, finding out what instrumentation, chords, lyrics, and melodies he uses then using that information to create a new work. I really don't think the argument has legs. And for the record, I am a recording artist who has never used AI to create any of my original works, and still I support it and am excited by where it's going.
If you want to become better at photography or painting, you would not look millions of photos to get style references of, like how the modern art generators work. Instead you would get a pencil and brushes and start painting until you are good. You could also take some lessons where some teacher explains how perspective works, how color theory works, what anatomy is, what is the ethics of art etc etc. The art generator never got those lessons. You also would have preferences of what kind of art you like and what not, which also is impossible for Ai to have, since it doesn't have preferences. Ai stops thinking and therefore existing when no one is prompting. (I think, therefore I am)
@@MrSorbias First, a great student will not only work on their technique, but they will also study the masters. The teacher you mentioned will show examples of how various artists used perspective, color theory, leading lines, negative space, etc. to get the image they wanted. Second, the final statement is interesting. Right now AI is simply a servant to our requests. I know it is a heated debate as to if AI could become sentient. The interesting thing about that conversation is that philosophers have argued and debated for centuries about what exactly it means to be sentient. We struggle to answer that question for ourselves. It is going to be even more difficult when judging AI. Right now AI will only produce an answer in response to our prompts. Can we get to the point that the AI can generate thoughts and ideas without an external prompt? I would argue that it is incredibly possible. I would also argue that quantum computing will be the innovation we need for that to happen. The massive leap in processing power of a quantum computer is almost beyond imagination.
I wish we would focus AI on medical help and scientific before we make the arts an even harder place to make a living!!
Commercially successful AI might later be used in other fields.
I agree, But i believe in the medical field it takes longe to see the results because If the AI make a mistake someone could die. Music is easier to experiment with.
That's correct. Many composers use other artist music or lyrics as inspiration. they are just trying to obfuscate the way it works.
It's definitely murky territory and it's basically a different version as to what openai/chatgpt are going through
@@theindieminers Yes, but I can understand why they sued. They want to bring this to court and test their arguments. It will be interesting to see if courts will treat AI as anyone that copies or uses another artist stuff.
you make a great point that other song writers use songs from other great artists they love as inspiration for their own new song creations. This is no different to how these AI platforms work - unless, as they might claim, they don't use existing music to train their models (cough cough). I think one of the main differences between AI and proper song writers is that these AI platforms make it so much easier for talentless "creators" like me to create "great" music. I have been experimenting with both Suno and Udio using (more or less) the same lyrics and prompts to create music so I can compare the 2 platforms and I'm sorry to say, I personally love the end result on both of them. I've uploaded both sets of songs onto SoundCloud because for the most part they are songs I genuinely want to hear. So I "pretend" I'm listening to "new" artists, or bands I already love, who are creating music that's worthy of being on my favourites list.
Thanks for watching! Yeah this is interesting it's almost as if everyone has the chance to create their own unique version of the best album of all time which is mind blowing to even think about. If I were in a band id definitely be using this to tidy up some of my shitty songs and have it played with real instruments
@@theindieminers Lol, this is exactly what goes through my mind with every new song I use AI to create. I love going to listen to live bands in pubs and clubs, some of their songs could use a bit of polish. A lot of the songs that I'm able to get Udio and Suno create I often imagine being sung by some of those bands. They may see things differently of course, but to your point, if they are "average" song writers, they can improve things by using these AI platforms. In my opinion, as a fan of any band who has great singers and musicians, I don't care if the song is created by AI, it's how they deliver it that is important to me. Of course, that's just my opinion 🙂
Just to be clear, I believe that the best music will continue to be created by humans; formulaic music will easily be replaced by AI. Think Stock, Aitken and Waterman back in the 80's. That could just as easily have been AI generated hit songs (??)
We dont talk about suno no no
If I were in a band and responsible for songwriting it would be my dirty little secret
Nekts Level good band name
Thanks for watching!
They still do their rock stuff it definitely shows when they perform
I actually really like the song I’m dying for the music video
Coldplay will do 12 albums total. They wont stop making music or touring, they will just stop making albums after thier 12th. Ussually chris says this will be the last, he said it alot last 15 years. However now other band members say they will stop making 12 albums aswell, so we can take their word for it this time prob.
Coldplay are simply THE worst band in the world. Insipid, wet, hollow, pure shite
They will make 12 albums they already said it was originally 2025 timeline to get all that out but with touring it’s gotten pushed a bit.. its moon music then a film with album then the last album is said to go back to basics and will be called coldplay
This!
Everyday Life is a masterpiece and is very alternative. Coloratura from their last album too. This is not their last and they will continue touring.
@@coldplaymay Charlie Brown beats coloratura tho
@@vinnie4v277 it's surely a great song but Coloratura is a masterpiece imo
Do yourselves a favour and buy the new album by ex Nymphs singer Inger Lorre!!