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Gifts Ungiven, Fact or Fiction Now, how to get this into my game?

I really like Sagrada in the way that you roll dice and draft them but each player chooses which dice they want based on their specific player board. No same colours can go next to another of the same either vertically or horizontally and this applies to number values as well. Each player chooses which dice they'd like to put on their player board in turn order and it goes from there. Then of course, there's Catan that I dislike with a passion as it's just rolling (and praying) for resources. A game similar to Catan that I like way more is called Machi Koro where each player can buy from a pool of cards that has a number on it. The number represents the roll and if the dice get rolled for that amount, the player who owns that card gets (or takes) money. It's a much better way of controlling the randomness of the rolls in my opinion.

"Circle The Wagons" does one of my favorite versions of this with card drafting. The cards are face up in a circle. One player chooses what card to start on and the other gets the first pick. The drafting player may then either choose that first card, OR skip as many cards as they want until they reach a better card further down the circle. HOWEVER your opponent then gets ALL the cards you skipped. It's such a smart and fun risk game where both players are effectively cutting and choosing their way around the entire game. There are superior cards, and players want them, but you not only need to determine how many cards you would be willing to give up to get that card, but also what value your opponent is also putting on that card as EITHER player can technically draft it at any pick.

What is a "crunchy" game?

I'm currently designing a tabletop RPG with detectives and police set in the 1930's where you gather evidence, interrogate NPC's and at the end when you have all the correct info about the suspect you make a final accusation and you gain XP and level up in rank. It's quite complex because I need to design tons of cut-outs for objects, maps for the locations, hand-outs for various objects, mysterious letters , police databases for license plates, fingerprints and criminal records for the players to compare. Again, the game is complex but fun and makes the player want to play again on the next session because it's keeping them on the edge and encourages investigation further. The name of the game is called: Solved Cases, a role-playing investigation game. (Ages 18+)

I'm on the flip side of the opinions. I loved Charterstone when I played it and am looking for a static group so I can play through it all over again.

Just got on your channel, 5.21K over there. Eager to see how big this helpful channel will grow. Anyway, I haven't see you talk about board game material and how it feel to player yet. I think this is important to learn, like paper, some of them clumsy and will deteriorate, while thing like wood even if it improve the experience, it may make the design more costly and increase the packaging size. Basically, I wanted to know from experienced like you, how you feel about material.

It got weird when the acid music kicked in to the Tussie Mussie section! but in all seriousness this was a great video.

Just got on your channel! You’re such a sweet person!! I love your content thank you for it!! Sending you a big hug!! ❤️❤️

Great video! I think it’s fascinating that this mechanic was used in Biblical times. Brilliant! Thanks for sharing that! (I know this mechanic as “I Split, You Choose”, but that may be a regional variation.) Another way to make this mechanic work well with more than two players is to pair the players up. Bequest, for example, handles this brilliantly, in that you either negotiate with the player on your left or the player on your right, depending on which round it is. 5:21 Just a comment about player interaction: I often see board gamers talk about “multiplayer solitaire” as if it’s a bad thing and player interaction as a good thing, but I feel like that’s a matter of opinion (and it also depends on the game). Personally, I tend to prefer games with lower player interaction. That’s because I haven’t found as many cooperative games that I really like compared with competitive games, but I still like being able to help someone out without sabotaging my own strategy too much, and lower interaction allows me to do that. Some of my friends have even been able to predict games that I will dislike because there’s too much player interaction, and they’re often correct! 😂

Roll to move is the best game mechanic as it reflects real life circumstance. It teaches us that we ultimately dont have control of the bigger picture of our existence and it teaches that no matter how bad things get they can turn around in the blink of an eye. And no matter how good things are. You can still fall.

One of my al time favourite game (90% nostalgia but still), that uses this, in my opinion well, is Talisman

A 40 year old having the same chance to win as a 4 year old isn’t balance, it’s low skill. A balanced game has the more skilled player win every time.

‘Common Era.’ Don’t culturally appropriate the Christian Calendar and then change the name. It’s AD not CE.

The best roll and Move game is A Touch of Evil. Because 1. There are a lot of resources which can modify the roll 2. You can go many directions with varying rewards at different distances so you have interesting choice with both ‘good’ and ‘bad’ rolls. 3. Rolling a 1 grants you an event card so the worst roll is actually one of the best given how good events are. Another good example is Spy Alley which has a resource that can modify your roll, and part of the board has a major deviation and choosing which path to take is a significant decision/ risk each time.

The competitive mode for Lost Expedition uses this mechanic. But few play competitive so I’m not sure it’s on the list.

thanks 😊

I would've liked to hear your thoughts on the Worker Placement part of Scythe.

I know for me I'm making a board game for the last 2 years and I have one out of 5 game modes that are stabilizing with balance work and now I'm making my own cards and having people do graphic art for them

Probably the most important games not mentioned nor shown on screen: Blood Rage, Kemet (!!!), Cosmic(!), Dune(!). I would especially love a part showing how more modern games (Kemet would be perfect here) deal with typical "problems" with area control (mainlky "issues with Risk") ;) Love how much Inis exposure this video does, but sad none of the amazing features it has are mentioned therein (mainly how it combines the alleged "two types" of area control)

hearing el grande being sdescribed as not a mean bloody game is... well, sounds like someone has never been decimated by her friends in this one :D

I super disagree with the whole "area control and area majority" point. El Grande is literally the same kind of thing as Inis etc.

I love so many of the game's on your list! Including Inis - even though I am regularly targeted when playing for the simple "your usually good at this kind of game"

You gotta do sonething about that echo. You might even have a pretty good mic, but the echo makes the audio trash. Maybe nvidia broadcast to remove echo?

Nice! Haven’t tried Blood On The Clocktower yet, but all the rest I have. Suffice it to say we have very different tastes 😂 (I don’t love Inis, and Deep Sea Adventure is one of my least favourite games of all time!). But I still enjoyed watching your list!

Can't believe you didn't put Philosophia: Dare to be wise as #1!!! This game is so gooood! It's definitely in my top 3 (if not #1), since I discovered it last year. And I've played nearly 600 different titles in my little boardgamer life. Don't be shy to put your creations upfront, this gem deserves the recognition. You guys are awesome, keep up the good work :)

Would've been much nicer of a video if you had gameplay of each board game in background. Otherwise each viewer has to go look up each game to see what you're talking about.

I’ve just subscribed. Can’t wait for your top ten!

Um...I own "Tabletop" copywright in my town.....meeple meeple meeple

I love the idea of them, a game that's played as an extended campaign is amazing. But the practice of permanently destroying/altering/etc game components... nope. Not in this lifetime. While I doubt it's the intent for most designers, with the expense of many modern board games, it /feels/ like planned obsolescence, a marketing gimmick to sell restock components like printer cartridges, or a way to cut secondary market. It also makes introducing the game to somebody new a royal pain. You can't really introduce them to the start of the game if you've already been playing it, at least not without buying another copy. Also, as they're sort of designed around the idea of a specifc group of people playing over and over, introducing somebody entirely new part way into overall run has so much potential to create some issues. There's a group of folks out there for whom none of these are things that would bother them, and more power to 'em, but... Mind you, on a computer, where you can reset to 0 on a new save? Most of problems just vanish. Of course, there's some issues with computer board games, but at least it's an entirely different set of issues.

If I had a penny for every time I heard a joke about Lot's wife in a board game video this year, I'd have two pennies. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. I love 'em.

Intriguing! And meta.❤

There are some really neat variations on this mechanic! You mentioned Village, where your workers get old and die. Another unique mechanic to that game is how most actions in the game are taken not by worker placement, but by worker displacement: taking a token off the board to do the action of that space (and that token becomes a resource you can use!) One of the issues you mentioned was blocking, and I think the game Asking for Trobils fixes that in a neat way. You place one worker per turn, as usual, but instead of there being a defined round, you can spend a turn to gather all your workers so they are usable again. However, if someone wants to take an action where your worker is, they can kick you off, but then you get your worker back so you can delay having to waste a turn getting all your workers back. Architects of The West Kingdom has the mechanic that you can go where you’ve already gone, and the more workers in a spot, the more powerful the action. Dice placement has revolutionised my game experience. Add a rondel and you have The Red Cathedral. Put in a silent auction and you have Crystal Palace. Mix colours and numbers and you have Scholars of the South Tigris. Change the function of worker by the die face, and you have Beyond The Sun. So many of my favourite games of all time have this mechanic now!

That was 5 mins of off topic info.

Great explanation! I’m glad you mentioned the lack of forgiveness that hobby gamers have for roll-and-move, given how many people it has scared away from our tables! But you’re right that it probably doesn’t deserve all the vitriol it receives.

I hope you are writing an exciting book. Fantasy, why not. You seem to have the vocabulary and articulation to do it.

Basically this is just a 12 minute advert for your game, got it.

41 is indeed my favorite way of using playing cards, so yes, please make more games with this mechanic

In a 3 player game do you add 1 or 2 Mining Resource Tokens to each of the cards with a mining symbol on them? I wasn't sure whether 3+ meant 3 and more players or more than 3 players.

If your game doesn't include a mechanic in the bible I ain't buying

Good video! I've had an adult playtester tell me once, that they only like playing games, that heavily rely on luck, because those were more satisfying to cheat in. Lol Needless to say, their favourite game was Monopoly.

The universe is made up of just protons and Neutrons, and yet it can make every element and molecule. It is inanimate and yet it makes life. I would say Art is when we make something that somehow is more than what it is. Generally with an emotional component. Ironically this could be used to slightly apply a metric by which we can measure how art something is. By that difference of how much it creates in excess of what it is. The Mona Lisa is small and simple and yet renownedly loved. Monopoly is art in its ability to illicit the appropriate emotion when someone mentions capitalism. Clue is art in its ability to tell an ever changing murder mystery story. Chutes and Ladders is less art than it used to be thousands of years ago. When it had more meaning to what it was doing. Art is us taking that step to transcend simple humanity towards something more than life. And board games are very much part of that. They served as a cultural salve for Germany after the world wars. A reminder that we can go exist together and still be competitive and have fun and not attack anyone. Eventually they have a chance to be one of the best forms of art. Although at this rate VR will probably overtake it. (Also clearly by this definition Tiny Epic games are High art (small box big game))

why Talisman was not mentioned? It is getting its 5th edition and its still just roll and move where the only decision is whenever you move to left or right and then stuff happens and you might roll again. It is a great example how people nitpick at luck of dice, but don't complain about luck of draw of the cards because the limited outcomes unlike a dice where the same roll might show up n times in a row.

Pop Quiz, is Tiny Epic Quest a Worker Placement game?

I haven't played Ur, but I feel like it is a decidedly better game than Backgammon, multiple d4 where 2 sides count as giving moves is massively bell curved. And being able to determine how to apply those is even better. It's specifically the I rolled and that number is the amount the piece moves. Is so much worse. It's weird how the worst of thousands years old games are the ones I've actually heard of and played

If you can script a game to only stop and ask for decision then these would run to completion without single prompt

8:25 chutes and ladders may be of interesting decisions, but those might not be interesting decisions for us but for nature/god to decide :P

2:20 song? 🤔

6:20 technically its not balanced, first to move still has the advantage :P

I think you title is misleading. Many games use randomness. The issue with games like Monopoly is the lack of agency; you actually make this point towards the end and it is the really issue here. For example, the royal game of Ur is actually interesting despite the randomness. I also don't think it really matter whether you have pre-luck or post-luck either; it's how it's implemented with the rest of the game. In fact pre-luck might be a bit easier to get right!!!