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This message is so timely! I needed to hear it because I just heard several people who I trusted say that Christians celebrated this holiday first. I left these pagan holidays in 2030 and never plan to go back, no matter how tempting it gets sometimes when the memories pull at my heart strings. I did not want to believe the lies spewing forth now! Thank you for helping to clarify this matter.

I have a friend who is a minister and he justifies celebrating christmas saying it is when Jesus was concieved

Hannukah also has some questionable roots and certainly has evolved picking up its own fables along the way. As one teacher warned to not fall prey to... "many roll from the bed of the Pope into the arms of a Rabbi". This is very prevalent in the TO community. At this time, for our family, we do not celebrate Hanukkah. It makes for a weak witness and causes confusion when advocating for God's Appointed Holy Days. It's tearing down one tradition to pick up another. As Christmas has evolved, it seems Hanukkah has become a form of blue & white Christmas with fabled traditions. Many use John as "Jesus celebrated", but in reading the passages, It reads more as a time marker than participation. He is rebuking the ones there as not doing the father's will and saying they are not of his fold and His sheep hear His voice. I would look at his presence there more as an opportunity of correcting error than participation. Attendance and participation are two different words. A lot to reconcile, but always open to scriptural correction. 😁

Many will acknowledge that Christmas wasnt His birth, so even to continue, is saying with action, that we prefer the lie. Additionally, there is no evidence of the righteous celebrating their birth annually. This was prevelent in the nationa practice like Pharoah, Herod and possibly Job's son. All were seen negatively. According to Deuteronomy 12 we are commanded not to worship YHVH in the same manor as the nation. To continue in an ANNUAL birthday celebration of our Lord, you would have to prove His birthday was being celebrated PRIOR to the surrounding nations. To that, there is none. The gifts of the magi werent so much as a gift of birth, but rather acknowledging the king.

Wizard of Oz is also discussing green colored paper which is destroyed by water. The official paper when properly printed is simply a counterfeit of coin.

Such a Huge Blessing !!!!

I absolutely love this teaching. I have been the one who has had to draw the line in the sand. It has been very painful. My family doesn't understand. No matter what, they will not seek out the truth. I pray Abba will open there eye's to the truth. This conversation has given me so much clarification. Thank you so much, my brother's . Shalom

This was noce & interesting to see how i pray for wisdom & underderstandingig is part of the manorah.

This was an awesome discussion! So much resonated with me AND gave me new perspective. I personally feel that the NT church has supported rebellion and a lack for a reverence for YAH. I remember going to my "Christian" husband in fear that we should NOT celebrate Christmas & Easter and being given excuses. I was in a mindset to "obey" my husband over the Holy Spirit. Praise Yah, years later, when we were unchurched he came to the same conclusion! No one else in my life feels the same.

I agree with another commenter that christmas is mainly pushed by women. I think the reason for this is the emotional attachment to this holy day. It has a strong pull on those who are controlled by their emotions.

Shalom ~ Shalom!

What about Hanukkah this year on the same day as Christmas?

23:54 My sister says “If we were back in early church times, Paul would be writing you a letter” lol

Historically, Yahshua was conceived during Hanukah and born during Sukkot! Let's celebrate YAHs Holy days!

Well done David 👍 Yah bless. -Matthew

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Excellent points made here, thank you! I just found your channel and Torah Family as well, very grateful and I believe the Lord led me to you.

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The Bible gives us the timeframe of Christ’s birth - it tells us when Mary was pregnant when she met her cousin while they were both pregnant - that timeframe of when her cousin’s husband was serving in the temple. The birth seems to line right up with the feast of tabernacles- Sukkot- Yah came to dwell with us

Well done brothers. Great discussion. Shalom.

Still in the midst of listening 19:22 Very many Christians do not know the history of the 12 Tribes which I believe is paramount and foundational to the origins of the covenant. However, the question I like to pose is show me just one scripture that tells us to celebrate Xmas.😮

You have an echo sounding. This is rather unpleasant for elderly ears!! 😟

The Jesus skit told me enough to want to stop watching. The message is important, but the eexecution ... oy!

Shalom brother and sister ❤️

Look into the enoch,Hebrew calendar, in my channel, each month begins between 2 months on the gregorian Callender, nissan 1 is mid march/April, so on August/September is month 8 or nine, now when Mary was told by an angel that she would give birth to the savior, she went up with haste and went to see Elizabeth who was in her 6 month, Mary stayed 3 month,then went home, so where is the conclusion that sept is the time frame for his birth, why would the senses be set during the weather change,If the Sierra desert is cold after dark, i mean really cold all yr ,then their night time would be the same, am i wrong? The scriptures say the animals and shepherds were out, so how does that make sense? Anyway lets just say the Hebrew/enoch Callender is pretty close, do we know when Elizabeth became pregnant?if so then we would know when her six month was,therefore we could calculate from three months when he should be born ,giving room for the extra 1or 2 weeks of being a past due date. 💁‍♀️

Sukkot is the his birth day. The 8th day is his circumcision. If anyone feels like celebrating his birth look for a week long celebration during Sukkot Feast. May YAHUAH indwell with each and every one of you. Shalom shalom beloved brethren, emissaries of YAH. Praaaise YAH!!!!!

Great discussion! With all due respect... Je sus does not exist. The letter J is only 500 years old. The Only true Messiah is Yahusha (Yah delivers)

I admit the emotions behind compromise rings true about reaching out to those who may have lost Yah's way instead of self will in worship. We want unity among the brethren, but obedience to Messiah foremost. Our culture is biblically based with respect to Torah. Santa Clause is a pagan infiltration. How can we witness and keep Christ minded integrity to Yah? This is the conundrum I hope you enlighten us upon tonight as I listen for guidance. 💯🙏😳 Rachel

This was a very motivating and reinforcing conversation! Thank you so much for tackling head on this spirit of allurement to “the love vibe” of the invented “holy-day”. Just this huge over focus on the romance of Yeshua’s birth, while conscious choices were made, earlier in the year, to remain disconnected from the Passover week. It’s so frustrating and heavily promoted. Thank you for going over all angles of the danger of compromise.

Always pray first .... amien

???? unto us a child is born ...unto us a child is given ... is this YESHUA JESUS ???

Trying to understand what the name of the calendar was when Christmas was assigned to Dec 25th, and what year - then the winter solstice, I’m assuming. What year did that assignment occur?

Excellent conversation. I've been emboldened this year, when people mention that they can't wait for Christmas to be over, to ask "Why are you doing it? We know it isn't his birthday, and we were told to remember his death until he comes,and that isn't even Easter, its Passover. Why do Christmas?" I don't know if it makes anyone think. I pray the spirit uses those words to convict others.

Name- Authority and Identification. " I am YHVH, your Alahim, who brought you out of Mitsrayim, you shall have no other Alahim before me"

At the end of all this discussion, it doesn’t matter what we think. It only matters what the Father says in His written word! He gave us 7 feast days to honor and keep, along with the 7 high sabbaths intermingled within the Kodesh days. NO EXCUSES!

Name = Authority....not a pronunciation.

I deeply regret all the years of striving to make Christmas a warm, memorable time for my 5 children!! 😔 now most of them have children of their own and don’t understand my recent change of conviction on this. There is definitely a ‘spirit’ about it which does not easily let us go, and it’s NOT the Spirit of our Father. Praying that they will see through our example and truly test all things and hold to what is true. 💙 Thank you for sharing the Word on this topic 🙏🏼May the Father bless all of you for your faithfulness to continue fighting the good fight which Rob Skiba so fervently fought, along with many before him.

Can you share the link to the podcast?

I needed to listen to this for the encouragement to do right. My children and grandchildren are in a big Christmas play at church today. They are expressing a lot of hurt and anger with me for not celebrating Christmas.

I was very saddened when I called my mom today and heard someone tell her merry Christmas and she said it back 😢 she got mad when I asked her why she did that (she knows it’s not good). Pray for her please

" Come out of her my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues " Rev.18:4. Xmas 🎄 🎅👹is a part of her . And also the name Jesus/ JZeus. " A bad tree does not bear good fruit "

“Old Nick” defines in dictionary as “The Devil”

Well, Hanakah is not a commanded Celebration.. Nor is Purim..... So do we as believers ignore these as well?

I don’t see a conundrum. It is not one of YHWH’s appointed times. We also do not see any of Yeshua’s disciples celebrating Christmas (nor Easter). Bottom line: do you serve YHWH or man?

Excellent discussion my brothers. HalleluYAH!!! YAH bless!!!!

Could I dive a little deeper as well my brothers... we talk of pharmakakia.(sp?) Remember the medical but also food industry, we can also focus on the addictions to highly processed sugar and "goodies" that are not real food but makes us sick in body, with disease. Ha, Jake just talked about candies🤗 There is so much to "come out of." Blessings❤🕊🙏