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It looks like a dance routine they worked out earlier, not like they're making decisions at the moment.

everybody calls this guy a good actor to me he looks about twelve and would blow over with a gust of wind

I soo appreciate this. I dont sword fight, i know more about filmmaking. I loved this movie in 2019, and i hated how it was so aggressively panned by the historical community

A great film all-around.

From what my reading tells me, the Rondel dagger and Dudgeon knife were specifically designed to spread the links of chain mail. The classic Scottish Dirk reflects this, with it's triangular point. Maybe I've been mis-informed..?

Good Content. Rare these days. Kudos!

Where be the big dog?

You know what doesn't look cool? When a skinny little boy challenges another little boy to a champions fight and they both put on armor suits and still look like 140 pound little soy boys... 😂 it is absolutely hilarious to watch someone break this fight down.

I think Hal intentionally kicked his leg out as he was falling to trip Hotspur after he pulled the dagger.

Havent seen this movie yet but i want to. I love seeing fights that arent super strobed, so many fights the past few years seems to have the camera angles change every half second it seems. I love actually being able to actually see the fight and see not only how the attacker starts and follows through but also how the other person reacts and adjusts to the attack

So Henry won because when he fell over, his out-stretched leg tripped Percy, who was so wildly swinging his sword against an armoured opponent that the sheer momentum of his own swing destabilized him, giving Henry the chance to climb over him and get the dagger in ?

I love how you point out that even when a move is a mistake, it’s a believable one because no one is going to not make any mistakes in a fight. Whoever wins is just the person who made them less.

I love how you point out that even when a move is a mistake, it’s a believable one because no one is going to not make any mistakes in a fight. Whoever wins is just the person who made them less.

Most times I watch something and think, "stab him now, now, stab now, or....now!" The flaw in most choreography is as you said, always aiming for the opponent's weapon not the opponent and forcing the action that way. One of my favorites is the duel in Troy, the duel with Hector and Achilles has moments that'd clench an anus because you feel Achilles is trying to beat and kill Hector. There's also not a lot of films that go the route Kill Bill Vol. 2 went, when the two best finally face each other. It's Tarantino's action style but I loved that the fight itself didn't last that long. From a story context protagonist vs the villain, those final confrontations shouldn't take that long. Spike vs Vicious is similar where there's no point in a drawn out final fight when everything leading to that moment was already a grind. It takes me out of films when the final big duel is the same as everything that came before. Historical duels are different, we already know the outcome so choreography might not impact our perception of the expected outcome. The story is about how we get there, bad choreography makes it look like the character has plot armor instead of historical.

What I realized by this scene is that movies portray SWORD fights, whilst real-life portrays FIGHTS, and the King is more akin to real life

Choosing a longsword for this duel was the height of stupidity (but maybe there was a cultural reason, IDK). I love the longsword but in full plate maces, hammers or even daggers would have been a waaaay better of a choice. Neither was in any danger until the grappling phase.

Would having the center of mass higher make the take-down easier?

I used to think realism in movies was the only way and how dare filmmakers do unbelievable things all the time. That is, until movies started having night time or cave scenes very dark to the point you can’t make out anything easily. Oh my word how awful are those scenes and they annoy me!

Kind of clumsy and awkward. Just like real life.

Ive seen some really good sword play in porn videos.

After rewatching this scene countless times, I have come to the conclusion that the whole battle of Agincourt was rigged and Henry was too lazy to fight the Dauphin so he had him slip on mud so he could be killed by his homies

7:21 that takedown was insane! loved the analysis of this video definitely subscribing.

What great scene!

9:55 Hey, I know you guys have trouble pronouncing Dutch names, but could you at least spell them correctly?

This takes in to account swordsmanship and filmmaking, amazing

something i really appreciated about this fight is the grappling and half-swording. They are also making their cuts and thrusts at the real target rather than aiming for the other actor's sword.

Wow! Great video. Thank you.

i love how hotspur when hes trying to stab hal on the ground with the longsword feels around for it since hes basically blind in that helmet

I don't mind the whole attacking the air in fight choreography so much as long as it's close enough when watching it in normally. When it gets so far that it becomes distracting to the fight, then I like a fight a lot less. For actual sword fighters, I'm sure that threshold is a lot tighter.

7:20 I can’t believe u can just slam ur opponent 💀💀

The most single unbelievable thing about this is Tymothy Chalomet being able to l lift a sword and actually walk in armor

you should check out the Uncharted 4 final boss fight. Visually pleasing yes, but how about the fighting styles of both fighters? I'm sure the developers of the game did their research, but I'm interested in what you might have to say about it.

Great? No. Good, sure, but the movie is... well I would say quite loosely based on history. It is still enjoyable.

I see a lot of admiration for this scene, and you only have to look at the fact that they wear armor WRONG and that the armor is shown badly here. Chain mail should hide under the cuirass, and cover the entire throat. Otherwise, the armor makes no sense, because one angled thrust in the neck is enough and the fight is over.

Little Jimmy 835?

i didnt really like the movie over all it had so much going for it but there were just some cringe parts in it....

I'm amazed that Hollywood had them keep their helmets on. Usually the first thing the hero does in a Hollywood melee battle is lose his helmet.

Sword with heavy armor dual ... better use maces.

In the cinema this scene was more brutal

Its due to the director. Next!

After hearing about Fiore im wondering if LoL drew inspiration for Fiora from Fiore?

Is it the same henry from kingdom come deliverance?

It's a good reenactment of something that never happened at Shrewsbury. I agree that they did a good job at a fictional representation, although once it went to the ground they would have pulled out their rondel daggers. Like the the movie The Last Duel with Will Damon.

Good analysis. It's also worth noting that trained fighters make plenty of mistakes in the heat of the moment. I've watched guys fumble their magazines, forget to hit the bolt release, etc in the heat of combat. I can also sit and break down a UFC match and usually point out multiple errors. Simple fact is that your intelligence and coordination go down relative to your stress level rising. So to me it adds a degree of realism when people make mistakes or do things that don't make sense in a fight. Just adds to the idea that they're actually in a fight.

I think using more thrusts in films fights may be really hard to execute safely. They are really dangerous in fact and actors usually doesn’t have any armor and protective gear. So it can easily be fatal because it may be too effective;)

It kinda sucked that I liked the actor playing Hotspur. 8:03 Could have just pulled his dagger and finished fight here, instead of patting around for his sword.

Also if you like this sword fight check out the Zweinhander fight in Maximillian (it's free on Starz). Maximillian gets to don some Maximillian Gothic Plate as well.

The King is a commercial film made to make money. It is not a documentery. The fim makers had no duty for accuracy.

Oof the second fight scene is so bad... Everyone always closes to hand to hand for absolutely no reason. Collins Quaid was made unbelievable and unimpressive because of that fight scene. It was clear our "hero" had plot armor, and nothing was at stake for the viewer.

Read Joe Abercrombie, he is the man when it comes to the medieval style combat. So so so good if you like this kind of stuff.