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Dean St. neighborhood was pretty dodgy!

4:30. Paul Weyrich exposed that slide on his last day charter of “trackless trolley” 388 in Milwaukee on June 20th, 1965. His slides from that trip are presently in my collection and will be donated to the Illinois Railway Museum’s library.

0:48 Did you have to pay royalties to Subway for using their wallpaper?

Thank you for that! Well done.

0:03 WTF dude!

thank you for talking about the subway line that got me into trains as a whole!

Interesting Video! I never knew Milwaukee Road had a passenger called the Cannonball. It's really the Wabash when I think about it lol

incredible research... i can't believe you didn't mention that crazy crash!

Since its this railroad we know the drill by now, repeat after me kids! T H E M I L W A U K E E R O A D

🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 LION takes LIKE Number 442

You know, isn't it ironic that the "Hudson-Bergen" light rail, has a literal station called "Bergenline", but not a single inch of track goes to Bergen county?

i think just the c stops at franklin av.

Great series! I never knew that this service lasted just past A Day. Also, a channel named Big Mood Energy made three videos about passenger services post Amtrak in a series called "the Last Train in America". These videos covered the Southern with the Crescent, the Georgia Railroad's mixed trains, and the Rio Grande's Rio Grande Zephyr. I feel they may come in handy since they're in a similar nature as this series.

You did a nice job with this presentation. I hired with the EL during the 1970's while the Lake Cities was still operating. I made it through the Con-Rail era retiring from NJ Transit in 2013.😎🚂🚃🚃🚃✝

I live in Brooklyn and have looked at the subway map a million times and I never noticed this line or ever heard about it!

16:10 I'm sorry, You are confused by the HEP figure. It's not 400 horsepower "for train lighting" (that would be almost 3000 100-watt bulbs.) It's for the resistive heater in the passenger cars, which are *far* more energy-intensive than lighting. That's why you see: Train heating: 400 hp (300 kW) Head end power from prime mover. You wouldn't use anything close to 400 hp to run just the lights.

I'm from the Bronx! Brooklyn is beautiful

I live four blocks away from Park Place station on the shuttle line was worse.

I am confused about the power lines. Was the Shuttle operating on grade when it opened? Also, the comment about building a trence through Crown Heights: Where in Crown Heights was this tence located?

I've seen quite a few of these "this is odd" NYC videos. Fun to watch, but they all have the same backstory: you are often dealing with infrastructure from the 19th century. There are very few cities on earth with population densities comparable to NYC that have not morphed many times over. Stuff that may have been needed decades earlier become obsolete. The Dean street stop basically existed to save pedestrians from cross Atlantic avenue. I worked a college summer at an office in the area, and I made that Atlantic avenue crossing many a time. That being said, my (and many others') primary use for the Franklin Ave shuttle was to get to the Ice rink in Prospect Park. In the '70s and '80s that was a cheap date, and hours of entertainment for next to nothing. Just the cost of two tokens and $2.50 for two hours of ice time ...

5:26 day after my birthday

That station was too close to Franklin and Park. Be glad it's gone.

8:29 Debuted? That's a new one. You might want to look up the pronunciation of that. How you made it to adulthood and haven't heard it a hundred times...

i KNEW YOU WERE THEALMIGHTYDOGE

i like all of em except the pl42acs

The southerns fm op-800s were not named individually they were named after the four trains they ran

Not kept up - that's true with everything the way the TA is set up. Why should they maintain anything when they know they can let things deteriorate and go to pot, snf then cry out for capital funds from the city, state or federal government for replacements, which represent the cheapest garbage money can buy, and gussy it up cosmetically with all sorts of shiny bullshit so the rider and elected official can go ooh and aah. The Franklin Ave. Shuttle line could have served as a necessary bypass for passengers, connected at its Fulton St. end, in the event of a major disruption in that segment between Prospect Park and De Kalb Ave. Any disruption in that section will disrupt the entire Southern Division of lines serving Coney Island and environs. Something of nature could have been done for the shuttle in the event of a serious disruption in that section as I have stated above. The shuttle line of today has been rendered worse than useless for the purpose and it might just as well be taken out of its misery as it exists today. The presence or absence of Dean St. station has no bearing on this serious problem that most seem unaware of. The vulnerable 2 track segment between Prospect Park and De Kalb Ave. remains a problem. The cost of rectifying it, the result of initial misplanning when first built, would be exorbitant, although many years ago, something might have been attempted exactly as was the rebuilding of the De Kalb Ave. junction. One thing is for certain. This problem will NOT be rectified by dozens more station makeovers, or thousands of cheap tin boxes intended to serve as subway cars.

Thx. Lived on union & Franklin as a kid. Mom would leave me in my stroller so I could wave to the conductor. Botanical garden station then was half in the tunnel and half exposed. Mom would be guilty of child abuse in this day and age.

Beverly Road and Cortelyou Road on the Brighton line are1 block apart, as are the south end of avenue H and the north End of Avenue J

5:35… while describing the 10-cylinder OP prime mover, the picture is of…. a truly ancient F-M 4-cylinder non-opposed piston stationary engine of a COMPLETELY different design?!?! Sheesh. Do better. 🤦🏼‍♂️

I would today rebuild the line to two tracks and 600' stations all the way through as part of a longer-term plan to connect the Shuttle to the existing portion of the former Myrtle Avenue EL that would include connections to the Broadway-Brooklyn Line at Myrtle Avenue and Broadway. This would include rebuilding a small portion of the old Myrtle EL and then have it run to Franklin Avenue with a stop in between at Bedford-Nostrand for a transfer to the (G). The line would be a "Black (V)" train running from Myrtle Avenue to Coney Island as a Brighton Local 24/7 with the (Q) on Brighton running as Broadway Express full time to Brighton Beach (extended nights and weekends to Coney Island) and the (B) running as a second Brighton local to Coney Island on essentially the same schedule it is now give or take a few minutes.

One thing that I’ve never seen is a street level photo of Dean Street station and platform photos are hard to come by though they exist.

Brooklyn is shady? Maybe in the 80s

All of these people in the City Jump the turnstile!!! Its not just one nationality as you conveniently pictured!!! Because when a gate is left open I'm willing to BET YOU WHITES WILL GO THROUGH IT TOO!! And any other nationality!!! Hello!!! 1/30/25

I had to visit a client in Bed Stuy back in 1994. Being a railfan, I decided to take the Franklin Avenue shuttle to Dean Street and walk up to Atlantic Avenue to my client’s office. My first impression of the station was that it was like a toy railroad stop, running between buildings. It was very close to the street level below it and just seemed tiny and fragile. I found it hard to believe that such a skinny supporting structure could support the weight of two R68 subway cars. After getting to street level, I was eyed by two young men hanging out on a corner. They apparently didn’t often see lawyers with briefcases and long winter coats in their neighborhood. One of them shouted at me that I didn’t belong on their block and started to follow me. I scurried up to my client’s office as fast as I could. I didn’t take the shuttle back that day or ever again.

Music video by Digable Planets “9th Wonder” in the beginning shows Dean St station

The closing of the hospital and the various works (warehouse etc) in that immediate area lead to a drop in use for this station. If exited today it would see more use given the increase of residents. Also despite stating how close it is to the next station it’s not a straight walk as one would suppose

Crime there during the 90s prior to the rehabilitation of the station was wild 😂my pops lived on Bergen between Franklin and classon … prior to gentrification in crown heights that station was located on one of the most shambolic blocks in the whole borough .. if you weren’t puerto Rican or Jamaican you literally stuck out . Hasidic Jews were on the other side of the hood

Here is my take on the EMD vs F-M debate from a mechanical standpoint, since I've worked on both engines, though in marine settings. Both engines are solid, reliable engines (especially for being pre-WWII designs) but from my point of view - having worked on engine designs from all over the world, there is no simpler engine to do heavy maintenance on than the EMD - for example, with room to work, you can do an R&R on a "Power Pack" (cylinder head, cylinder liner, Piston & Rod, with Rod Bearings and injector) in 45 minutes or less. On an OP, everything takes a lot more time. They are man-hour intensive engines.) While it is true that the US Navy still uses OP's, there are used as back-up units, where they accumulate their hours very slowly, (any SSN / SS(?)N sailors care to comment on typical hours/year?) (The other engines that the US Navy buys from F-B are definitely un-loved; IMO, the OP was their last good idea. However, what is likely even a bigger factor, is the economic influence that GM was capable of bringing to bear. I know that in ship building, GM offered to sell their engines on credit - saving operating companies a significant amount of cash outlay, until the vessel in question was producing revenue. That alone sold a lot of EMD's. If these engines had cooling issues on locomotives, that is a matter of cooling system design.

My mom was in the closed down Brooklyn Jewish Hospital and took the shuttle to Park Placa !

BMT shoulda chose the Atlantic Ave route and thought of sending it down the Brighton line from there instead of the Montague Street route

Loved this history lesson on FM streamliners! You did a good job presenting it.

Just say “use”, not “utilize”

But 148 and 145 on the 3 line are 3 blocks apart

One historical note w Dean st station. It was one of the stops on the infamous 1918 Malbone street wreck on the BRT ( now BMT), where well over 100 ppl died when a train hit an S curve too fast,went flying off the rails and smashed into the tunnel under malbone street ( now called empire boulevard, renamed after the tragedy). Dean street was a stop.a couple of stops before the tragedy.. legend has it some people asked to get off at dean street ,sensing a problem with the train operation ( apparently trains didnt stopped there unless they asked the conductor,).

2:25 guy gets hit by train😂😂

Me and my dad always worked this station in the 90’s . He was the clerk on Saturdays park place on Fridays Bergen street on Sundays gave lunch on the G LINE ON MONDAY

You have missed an important detail that the R68s in use are 75 ft long and not the usual 65 ft. So, it is not actually 2 cars, more like 2.3 cars.

Thank you!

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