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Sounds like a perfect solution, Andrew. I'd never seen it before but will have to give it a go. Cheers for the suggestion. 👌

Cheers Dexter and you’re welcome. 👌🏻

Cheers Peter, I'll have to do a firmware update and hopefully get it working! 👌

Very true about the dropper post. I have one somewhere in my spare parts bin, so I should dig it out and install it. I've done a ride review of this bike now too. You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/zei-77HsFa4/видео.htmlsi=1j-_9DEx-Kgb48iq Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. 👌

Yeh, I get that. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. 👌

You've made your decision then, Colin. Awesome! I bet your son will be chuffed with the Boardman too. Keep me updated with how your build goes. 👌

Sorry buddy, not sure I understand. What part couldn't you see properly?

What’s the issue with the FD, Chris? I’ve never used SRAM, so would be interested to know of any problems. 👌🏻

@@petertreadway it needs absolute precision for it not to throw the chain over crank side. There's a few provided setup tools but my god, you need to go out on a ride with an allen key 😂

@@chrisje1991 Ah, that's frustrating then! Nothing worse than changing up in to the big ring, ready for a sprint and finding your chain has come off! 🤦 Thanks for the info and hope you get on better with Shimano but I can definitely highly recommend the Wheeltop though. 👌

It's a Toseek integrated bar and stem from AliExpress, Brian. I bought it about 4 years ago though, so they don't seem to make it anymore but this is a similar sort of thing they do now: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEx54nL

I think it really does. Not only with a rim brake option but being able to change your cassette size at the tap of a button in the app is game changing. No more need to swap out expensive bits of kit to upgrade. I'm super happy with it. 👌

This is the EDS-TX on my road bike, although I'm hoping to get the GeX on my gravel bike soon. 👌

@@petertreadway only thing preventing me from buying ATM is the customer service and warranty experience,it's an unknown versus SRAM in Europe

Ooooh, there's info I wasn't;t aware of!!! Cheers for that, I'll go take a look now. As for the Magene, funnily enough I've been looking at them recently, so will likely grab one soon for my road bike. 👌

Sorry for missing out that vital bit of info, Richard! I had a lovely sausage and egg sandwich on toasted sourdough bread, with lashings of brown sauce! Also, so long as my videos are helping people come to some sort of decision, it maters not to me what that decision is. I'm just happy to have helped. Thanks as ever though, and I'll see you next Sunday. 😉

As you suggest, Joachim, I think Wheeltop have played it really well by offering rim brakes and the ability to change your cassette size with the push of a button. Regards your questions though, I have to agree with your concerns, as most of them are things I discussed in my review video of this group a couple of months ago. The app can be a bit clunky and the charge port covers are something I've suffered with. However, I'm hoping that Wheeltop will take all of this feedback on board and later iterations of the hardware and software will be much improved. Time will tell, I guess.

You've put in to words something that's always nagged at the back of my mind with SRAM, Chris and that's that it just seems a little more obscure or niche than Shimano, at least in terms of getting compatible parts. The ease of maintenance/replacement of parts for the big name brands (in my head at least) goes Shimano, SRAM, then Campag.... although one day I would love to run a Campy set up, just to see what all the fuss is about! 👌

The wait for the LTWOO v2 does seem to be getting on now. I remember you mentioning it quite some time ago now, so it's a shame it hasn't;t materialised yet! I can definitely recommend the Wheeltop group though. It seems robust, it works well and after around 500 miles, I'm still het to charge it up again. I can't complain at all, Sam. 👌

That's really reassuring to hear, although I was fairly confident in the Elite Wheels ability thanks to the road wheels I already have. As for the GeX, I'm hoping to get my hands on it at some point, but in the mean time, Dave Noakes and the Ribble Valley Cyclist both have videos of it, if you havent already checked them out. 👌

@@petertreadway yeah, I saw their videos but these are just unboxing. I am waiting for an actual test video.

Yeh, I can understand that. If you happy and comfortable with what you're running, there's no need to change.

Oh that's an interesting bit of info I wasn't aware of! I mean, I'm sure the bearings still work well, but yeh, there's always a little more concern for smaller parts wearing quicker. Thanks for the info.

The SRAM is 12 speed but the Wheeltop can be anything from 3-14 speed. You just change it in the app and away you go. 👌🏻

Good point well made, Phil. I’ve just never tried tubeless and every time I think of giving it a go, I see another photo of someone with sealant all over their back and frame where they’ve had a blowout and the sealant hasn’t worked! 😂 I’ll give it a go one day, I’m sure. 👌🏻

TBF, this frame is likely designed for electronic shifting, so I probably created more problems for myself by needing to install 4 cable housings/hoses! 🤦🏻‍♂️

Where did you find that deal, Mark?

Cheers Steve, glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. As you say, Wheeltop is a great option to upgrade and I think they’ve stolen a march on the big name brands with that and the rim brake option. 👌🏻

Agreed, Peter and I’m a big fan of LTWOO, but none of my riding buddies have it on their bikes, so it’s difficult to do an ‘on the road’ comparison. 😂

@@petertreadway I have the eGR on my gravel bike. I can't say I've tried the Wheeltop, but from videos I've seen the actual installation and setup using the app seems way too painful compared to the LTWoo. Microadjusting a gear anywhere anytime, visually seeing the derailleur move as you click your screen vs having to shift and check, shift and check is just too much to give up. I want to get the eRX, but my budget doesnt allow it yet. Yeah, its not "fully" wireless, more like Shimano, but for me and I think most users non power users, that difference is negligible.

​@@PeterSmithCA, the difference between fully wireless and needing cables routed to a central battery is not a negligible detail if one is trying to upgrade a bike that wasn't designed for such a battery and associated cable routing. Fully wireless is the only realistic option in that case.

@@joachimachtzehnter4772 This is true. I really only got into cycling in 2019, and nothing I've bought hasn't been built for this. I kinda would like to refurbish an old 70s 10 speed, so might be an option there. I hope they improve their app from videos I've seen at least. But I need a budget first - lol

@@arcoulant87 yeh, that’s a valid concern I can’t argue with. Although, you could always just buy a new bike while you wait! 😂

For the cost, you can just buy a complete new groupset and still have spent less. Then send the broken part back at your leisure

The trouble with going lower than a 10t cog, is that you’re really cutting down your choice of cassettes and wheels/hubs you can use them on. XD hubs are the obvious choice, but then there’s the inefficiency of using smaller cogs and the argument that if you need a top gear that small, you’re better off just using a big chainring at the front. I agree that there is far less to go wrong with mechanical though. 👌🏻 Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Really appreciate your input and take on the different groupsets. 💪🏻

I run Campagnolo chorus on 3 of my bikes lovely group set. 😊❤. Pete

How much time does anyone really spend in their 10t cog? I do _not_ have current SRAM AXS w/ 10t, but I previously had 11sp DoubleTap w/ an 11t small cog. Waaay back when I ran Ultegra with 53/39 & an 12-25 cassette, I probably used that top gear less than 0.5% of the time.

I must admit that charging things the night before a ride has become the bane of my life, despite building myself a charging station to make it easier. Incredibly though, I haven't had to charge the Wheeltop since putting it on back in the summer. I've probably done around 500 miles since then and it's only just hit 50% battery. The removable batteries on the SRAM are enticing though, especially with being able to swap them out if one dies mid ride! 2x11 Ultegra is a more than decent setup though, so can understand you not wanting to change.

Yeh, it definitely fills a great gap in the market. I think Wheeltop have played a blinder here. 👌🏻

Cheers Lee. 👌🏻The SRAM setup does look nice and, as silly as it sounds, I think it’s mainly to do with the flat top chain. It looks so cool! 😂 May consider installing SRAM on my bike in the future, but for now I’m really happy with the Wheeltop group. 👌🏻

@@petertreadway Oh truly Peter, if I was buying electric now, it'd be your stuff (Wheeltop) - id have to get that as I'm still in the past with my old-fashioned rim brakes 🤣

@leedorney as much as I’m a big fan of discs, I can see a certain romanticism with rim brakes, so would never deny someone their love of them. 😉

Sadly I think you’re right, Paul. I went out this morning in 4°c and 4 layers! 🥶

Cheers Scott, glad you enjoyed and felt compelled to comment. Healthy debate is what it’s all about and part of the reason I love making these videos, to see the views that you guys have on a range of subjects. 💪🏻

@@petertreadway A healthy debate is always welcome. If you get five years of reliable shifting then £600 (or whatever it retailed) is worth every penny!

So you’re right about some Chinese parts being difficult to get warrantied but there are a few reputable Chinese brands coming through now who stand behind their products and will give suitable customer care. People forget that DJI was once a ‘cheap, Chinese’ drone manufacturer but is now the largest drone company in the world. I think a lot of Chinese companies have seen that they can sell products themselves that are as good as the products they’ve made for big name brands for years, only now they get a big cut of the sale. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a lot more Chinese companies wanting to make a reputable name for themselves over the next few years. Regards the price though, I agree it is very close to other full kits, like the 105 Di2 I mention in the video, however, this is still a great upgrade kit for someone not wanting to shell out for parts they already own. 👌🏻

I have a Hero 11 and I’m always looking at the DJI, good point well made!

40cm, which is perfect for my shoulder width. 👌🏻

@@petertreadway I thought they looked 38 or smaller. 40 is a good choice

Unfortunately, the Wheeltop hoses don’t have the little eyelets on the end to attach an old cable, so this was the best way to feed them through the frame.

@@petertreadway there is an adapter that can screw in both ends or even tape them. The cable guide you used is great tool too. Great step by step well put together video

You were a trend setter on your Dogma, mate. 💪🏻😂

Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it. 👌🏻 🧛‍♂️😂

@@scotiavelo1405 good tip about mitts, although my Galibier deep winter gloves did me well on a -5c ride back last year. 👌🏻 As for tights without a chamois, you could always wear thermal running tights.

@@sankarpai I’m not denying that some of the frame sets from all of those companies are made in Taiwan, but all of them have at least one lineup made in mainland China.

Because people who spend upwards of five figures on a big name brand bike, like to think that somehow their frame was crafted by skilled artisans in a French or Italian barn Alps somewhere, when in reality they are mass produced in China exactly the same as these frames. My reason for pointing it out is to inform people that, so long as they do a little research on the Chinese company they’re getting their frame from, they can get exactly the same quality of frame as the big name brands for a fraction of the cost.

Cheers mate. Yeh, hoping to get out more with him now. He loves it! 💪

🤣 You're not the first to notice and likely won't be the last. No idea how it happened, but assume the form spun without me seeing it as I was tightening the expander plug in. It made me scratch my head for a second when I finally realised!

Mine came in about two weeks, I think. You won’t be disappointed though, it’s a great frame set. 👌🏻

Perfect analogy. I’m using that. 😂